Rand Paul Said He Doesn’t Believe In The Concept Of Gay Rights

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Rand Paul Said He Doesn’t Believe In The Concept Of Gay Rights

http://www.buzzfeed.com/dominicholden/rand-paul-doesnt-believe-in-the-concept-of-gay-rights?bftw&utm_term=4ldqpgc#.jsG36XEQg

I do remember this video from awhile back when looking for local press with the Senator, but it seemed pretty clear to me. Nevertheless, here's the bulk of the article.

Sen. Rand Paul said he doesn’t buy into the concept of gay rights because they are defined by a gay person’s lifestyle.
“I don’t think I’ve ever used the word gay rights, because I don’t really believe in rights based on your behavior,” the Kentucky Republican told reporters in a videotaped interview that has received little attention since it was recorded in 2013.
But it’s unclear how far — and to whom — Paul extends the argument that rights cannot be defined by behavior.
Practicing religion, for example, is a behavior enshrined as a primary American right. Free speech is behavior protected by the Bill of Rights. Likewise, a person’s right to be free from discrimination for his or her nation of origin — which entails the behavior of moving from one country to the United States — is embedded in America’s civil rights laws and broader code of values.
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Does Paul believe those behaviors are protected rights?
Eleanor May, a spokesperson for Paul’s 2016 re-election campaign to the U.S. Senate, said the rights that count are those in the country’s founding charter. “What he is saying in this video is that he does not classify rights based on behavior, but rather recognizes rights for all, as our Constitution defines it,” May told BuzzFeed News.
“Sen. Paul is the biggest proponent for protecting the Bill of Rights, which, as you know, protects the rights of all Americans as stated in our Constitution,” May said.
The campaign did not reply to BuzzFeed News’ question seeking clarification on gay people’s rights not associated with their behavior.
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This is not the only time Paul has commented on gay rights — not that he would call them that. Earlier in March, he said same-sex marriage “offends myself and a lot of people.” And last week, Paul argued same-sex marriage results from a “moral crisis” that will require “another Great Awakening with tent revivals of thousands of people saying, ‘reform or see what’s going to happen if we don’t reform.’”
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I mean, sounds like he's just for individuals in general having rights instead of limiting it for the sake of having a 'I'm for gay rights' sound byte. I think, anyway. Though he doesn't explicitly say what the article's headline reads.
 
Really no different than Ron's beliefs.

“You have to remember, rights don't come in groups we shouldn't have 'gay rights'; rights come as individuals, and we wouldn't have this major debate going on. It would be behavior that would count, not what person belongs to what group.”
― Ron Paul

“Rights mean you have a right to your life. You have a right to your liberty, and you should have a right to keep the fruits of your labor....I, in a way, don’t like to use those terms: gay rights, women’s rights, minority rights, religious rights. There’s only one type of right. It’s the right to your liberty.”
― Ron Paul
 
Me neither. "Gay rights" (so called) are just one of the latest phony BS schism tactics of the tired lame old divide and conquer pattern. :p
 
Sen. Rand Paul said he doesn’t buy into the concept of gay rights because they are defined by a gay person’s lifestyle.
“I don’t think I’ve ever used the word gay rights, because I don’t really believe in rights based on your behavior,” the Kentucky Republican told reporters in a videotaped interview that has received little attention since it was recorded in 2013.
But it’s unclear how far — and to whom — Paul extends the argument that rights cannot be defined by behavior.
Practicing religion, for example, is a behavior enshrined as a primary American right. Free speech is behavior protected by the Bill of Rights. Likewise, a person’s right to be free from discrimination for his or her nation of origin — which entails the behavior of moving from one country to the United States — is embedded in America’s civil rights laws and broader code of values.

Oh good grief! Okay. Let's take this argument to it's logical conclusion. Free speech = behavior and homosexuality = behavior and all behaviors should be equally protected. There are those who think that gays should be protected from losing their jobs. So by that same logic if a Republican staffer posts on her Facebook page that she didn't like the way the First Daughters were dressing or rolling their eyes at their father then she shouldn't have been fired because, after all, behavior defined rights deserve full protection!

Nobody should be put in prison for behavior that doesn't hurt anyone else. And sorry but I'm not counting "Destroying the moral framework of society" in that because that is subjective. That doesn't mean everyone else has to condone and accept said behavior.

Eventually liberals are going to push so hard on this that they will fracture their own base. It's one thing to say gays should have the same rights with respect to the government as everyone else. It's another to say that the government should be able to force acceptance of the homosexual lifestyle on those who disagree with it.
 
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Good. I like Rand's brand of libertarianism so much better than Gary Johnson's brand.
 
phill4paul said:
Really no different than Ron's beliefs.

“You have to remember, rights don't come in groups we shouldn't have 'gay rights'; rights come as individuals, and we wouldn't have this major debate going on. It would be behavior that would count, not what person belongs to what group.”
― Ron Paul

“Rights mean you have a right to your life. You have a right to your liberty, and you should have a right to keep the fruits of your labor....I, in a way, don’t like to use those terms: gay rights, women’s rights, minority rights, religious rights. There’s only one type of right. It’s the right to your liberty.”
― Ron Paul
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What part of Ron's quotes injects the word "behavior" into the argument?

And in all of Ron's writings, when has he said anything even remotely as idiotic as this:
And last week, Paul argued same-sex marriage results from a “moral crisis” that will require “another Great Awakening with tent revivals of thousands of people saying, ‘reform or see what’s going to happen if we don’t reform.’”
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Great job appealing specifically to the tent revival crowd, Rand: what you fail to realize is that they are a tiny fraction of Christendom, who somehow hold sway over a significant, but far from deal-breaking, number of electoral votes.... and you also fail to realize that pandering to them puts you directly at odds with a much larger fraction of the US, including a lot of other Christians.
 
fisharmor said:
What part of Ron's quotes injects the word "behavior" into the argument?

And in all of Ron's writings, when has he said anything even remotely as idiotic as this:


Great job appealing specifically to the tent revival crowd, Rand: what you fail to realize is that they are a tiny fraction of Christendom, who somehow hold sway over a significant, but far from deal-breaking, number of electoral votes.... and you also fail to realize that pandering to them puts you directly at odds with a much larger fraction of the US, including a lot of other Christians.[/COLOR]
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Yeah. Rand should have come out in favor of states having the right to criminalize gay sex because clearly that's less offensive to gay people. :rolleyes: SMH.
 
Rand Paul Said He Doesn’t Believe In The Concept Of Gay Rights
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Wouldn't this statement be equally truthful if it read;

Rand Paul Said He Doesn't Believe In The Concept Of Hetrosexual Rights?
 
Krugminator2 said:
Gary Johnson is a libertarian leaning Libertarian.
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jmdrake said:
So libertarian now equals extending the civil rights act to cover sexual preference? On what planet?
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jmdrake said:
You must not have been keeping up with Gary Johnson's leanings if you don't get my point.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...n-Laws-Protecting-Gays&highlight=Gary+Johnson
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I think maybe he meant that Gary Johnson is a libertarian-leaning liberal.
 
jmdrake said:
Yeah. Rand should have come out in favor of states having the right to criminalize gay sex because clearly that's less offensive to gay people. :rolleyes: SMH.
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Whatever. You obviously know I'm not free to discuss this here.
Congratulations on your win.
 
fisharmor said:
Whatever. You obviously know I'm not free to discuss this here.
Congratulations on your win.
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No I didn't know you weren't free to discuss that here. In fact I'm pretty sure Ron's position on states rights and sodomy laws is not verbotten for discussion. But okay.
 
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