Rand Paul Responds to Ron: 'Chris Kyle Was a Hero'

Bastiat's The Law said:
Kyle's actions during wartime are only "questionable" to a fringe element. Too everyone else, he was protecting the lives of his fellow soldiers, period.
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The man reminds of Richard Kuklinski with how nonchalantly he talks about heads exploding and shooting arms off. He is not a saint. He is not a hero. Listen to the man speak. He is a psychopath. Whether or not the war made him that way is debatable and the only reason I have the slightest bit of sympathy for him. There are plenty of other soldiers who did things in Iraq that did not come home to brag and write books. To not make money off of death. Plenty of soldiers realized what they did and the false reasons for them and took their own life. People should mourn them. Not some trigger happy mercenary who brags about shooting people responding to the other people he shot. (Some of which were women and children)
 
When you're getting salutes from BEN SHAPIRO, you better start watching a little more closely. Rand...I hardly knew thee. How fast you have crossed the meridian.
 
phill4paul said:
Yes. Tone. Approach. My belief that there are those within Ron/Rand Paul Inc. that wish to do the "message" harm by portraying it in a negative light.
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Same. I really doubt Ron Paul would write the tweet as it went out. Even though he was probably aware of Chris Kyle before a couple of days ago. He does have family that are mourning and the tweet could have been phrased better/waited.
 
awake said:
Am I the only one that neither finds Ron Paul's statement inappropriate or inaccurate? Am I still on the Ron Paul forum? The military hero worship is too strong of an elixir to see straight here.

Take a walk with me...

There is a good chance no one would have died in this story if Kyle and his friendly fire buddy never set foot in a foreign land due to an inappropriate and vial foreign policy. No PTSD, no flipped out shooter. There is an almost near certain chance that a book of his kill list would not have made the shelves either. The man missed out on his calling of teaching hunters to nail deer at extreme distances. Instead, he decided to operate a school (international) for mercenaries awaiting their chance at "Black water" or what ever their preferred contractor of choice name is this week.

I'm really disappointed in this idea that Ron's views are suddenly too much, or "inappropriate". Just another sign this movement is growing cozy to the idea that the message needs to be "groomed" to get votes.
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Perhaps it is time for some satire, Voltaire style. The lines are forming. I yield principle to no individual, no group, and for no goddamn reason.
 
sailingaway said:
Because if he was involved in tricking people, it would be unlike him, and to me dishonest. I really don't like that. I like direct honesty. If Rand said HE were doing something (as the poster was suggesting) and Ron just said 'well, it is your life, you have to live it your way' and went on living his own life his own way, that's not a Ron issue.
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I don't see the difference. Either way he's living his life the way he's been living it. No conspiracy is needed. In fact, Rand didn't even have to ask because Ron has been playing his role in the pincer movement since he joined politics. I don't see it as deception or manipulation because Ron would do the same things whether he was in on it or not.
 
Butchie said:
It does need to be groomed or you will get no votes. Why do all of you always think that just because someone suggest there was a better way of saying the same thing that suddenly they are sellouts or liars? If I tell you a glass is half full rather than half empty am I lying? No, both are true, one sounds better, so why not use the one that sounds better? Common sense.
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It's not common sense to water down the words that convey the full force of ones principles, and presenting the unadulterated message is fine.

People need to stop glorifying mass slaughter of people in foreign lands and the individuals who carry it out ... And for the love of all that is sweet liberty, individuals need to stop apologizing, back pedaling and rephrasing the telling of the truth.
 
PaulConventionWV said:
I don't see the difference. Either way he's living his life the way he's been living it. No conspiracy is needed. In fact, Rand didn't even have to ask because Ron has been playing his role in the pincer movement since he joined politics. I don't see it as deception or manipulation because Ron would do the same things whether he was in on it or not.
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I disagree, but I really don't want to have an argument on a 'suppose' someone here flat made up.
 
Bastiat's The Law said:
Kyle's actions during wartime are only "questionable" to a fringe element. Too everyone else, he was protecting the lives of his fellow soldiers, period.
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Totally agree. I'm extremely anti-war and the guy used poor judgement taking someone with mental issues to a shooting range. But he absolutely nothing wrong in war and I'm thankful for people like Chris Kyle.
 
awake said:
It's not common sense to water down the words that convey the full force of ones principles, and presenting the unadulterated message is fine.

People need to stop glorifying mass slaughter of people in foreign lands and the individuals who carry it out ... And for the love of all that is sweet liberty, individuals need to stop apologizing, back pedaling and rephrasing the telling of the truth.
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OK, and can you show me where I said any of that in my post? Maybe take moment and actually try to read what I said. Likewise, it seems you are unable to appreciate the fact that alot of people are raised getting their heads filled with this stuff, yes, they can be taught a new way, but do you honestly think anyone is going to listen to you with your "bash them over the head with my truth" tactics?
 
I for one will be the first to say that if the liberty message needs to become more 'voter friendly' and 'main streamed', you can take 2016 and shove it clean up Ronald Regans wazoo. That's because those friendly to watering down Ron Paul will find yourself where the liberty movement found themselves then: sold out and dissolved awaiting evacuation into a swirling vortex of waste water.
 
awake said:
I for one will be the first to say that if the liberty message needs to become more 'voter friendly' and 'main streamed', you can take 2016 and shove it clean up Ronald Regans wazoo. That's because those friendly to watering down Ron Paul will find yourself where the liberty movement found themselves then: sold out and dissolved awaiting evacuation into a swirling vortex of waste water.
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I am in agreement.
 
misean said:
Totally agree. I'm extremely anti-war and the guy used poor judgement taking someone with mental issues to a shooting range. But he absolutely nothing wrong in war and I'm thankful for people like Chris Kyle.
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He did nothing wrong? I couldn't disagree more. Would you defend nazi stormtroopers the same way you defend Chris Kyle? Why are you thankful for someone fighting in a war that you don't agree with? You're contradicting yourself.
 
doesn't sound like Ron runs his twitter account either.

Just doesn't sound like something he'd say.
 
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