Rand Paul remarks on abortion

[Crashland]

I hope not. That's a terrible idea. He needs to win the Republican nomination. To do that he has to beat the establishment. And to do that he has to become the conservative standard bearer.

Appealing to the democrat base *is* beating the GOP establishment. It is part of his plan to change the GOP from the inside out. Why else go to the NAACP and all these liberal strongholds?

 

[William Tell]

Appealing to the democrat base *is* beating the GOP establishment. It is part of his plan to change the GOP from the inside out. Why else go to the NAACP and all these liberal strongholds?

Do you think it will work?

 

[Crashland]

Do you think it will work?

Absolutely, it's gonna be a Randslide of course!
Really though, one of the best things Rand has going for him right now is that he is perceived to be the "most interesting" candidate because of all this outreach. That is not a typical description of a presidential candidate and it is getting him a ton of good (and bad) press ever since the drone filibuster. In such a wide open field, being the most interesting candidate is a huge boon. I think the Republican base is ready to try a different kind of republican and so is the rest of the country.

 

[erowe1]

Do the pro-life people here think that government banning abortions will actually stop abortions from happening? Great solution though for the pro-life people, you can't have an abortion but if you try the government will come in with a gun pointed at you to tell you to stop.

Do the laws that we have against murder prevent all murders from happening? Of course not, but as a civilized society, we still have to have laws against murder.

He said, "government banning," then you said, "laws."

 

[Origanalist]

So he should talk about ending foreign aid to Israel? Is that your suggestion?

Only if he is just including it with ending aid to other countries as well in my opinion. (speaking only for myself)

 

[jjdoyle]

So he should talk about ending foreign aid to Israel? Is that your suggestion?

He did in this piece. BUT, he said he would be more likely to keep funds going to Israel (specifically named it), and those countries that have been helpful to us, than to countries that burn our flag.

 

[Cutlerzzz]

There is absolutely no way Paul was more pro-life than Santorum.

The guy who voted to fund planned parenthood?

 

[erowe1]

Appealing to the democrat base *is* beating the GOP establishment.

No it isn't. It's a guaranteed path to failure, as has been proven by every candidate to try it in every recent election.

Besides, it makes no sense as an analysis of what Rand is up to. If he wants to veer left enough to land himself in the territory of the Democrat base, he has to go way more left than this.

 

[erowe1]

So he should talk about ending foreign aid to Israel? Is that your suggestion?

Absolutely. And he should put it the way I did.

 

[Crashland]

No it isn't. It's a guaranteed path to failure, as has been proven by every candidate to try it in every recent election.

Besides, it makes no sense as an analysis of what Rand is up to. If he wants to veer left enough to land himself in the territory of the Democrat base, he has to go way more left than this.

The democrat base <> democrat principles.

 

[William Tell]

No it isn't. It's a guaranteed path to failure, as has been proven by every candidate to try it in every recent election.

Besides, it makes no sense as an analysis of what Rand is up to. If he wants to veer left enough to land himself in the territory of the Democrat base, he has to go way more left than this.

Yup.

 

[William Tell]

Absolutely, it's gonna be a Randslide of course!
Really though, one of the best things Rand has going for him right now is that he is perceived to be the "most interesting" candidate because of all this outreach. That is not a typical description of a presidential candidate and it is getting him a ton of good (and bad) press ever since the drone filibuster. In such a wide open field, being the most interesting candidate is a huge boon. I think the Republican base is ready to try a different kind of republican and so is the rest of the country.

I thought 'Most Conservative Record!' would be a great strategy for the primaries. Vermin Supreme has him beat on 'interesting'

 

[Crashland]

I only mean it in the sense that Rand is actively appealing to the Dem base on freedom issues, like the war on drugs, anti-war/non-interventionism, privacy rights, voting rights, school choice. It doesn't mean he is veering to the left, unless by "veering to the left" you mean veering away from the GOP establishment.

 

[William Tell]

I only mean it in the sense that Rand is actively appealing to the Dem base on freedom issues, like the war on drugs, anti-war/non-interventionism, privacy rights, voting rights, school choice. It doesn't mean he is veering to the left, unless by "veering to the left" you mean veering away from the GOP establishment.

Ron did that too...

I don't think the Dems believe in privacy or school choice.

 

[Cutlerzzz]

No, the American electorate was pro choice then, and it's pro choice now. There's no difference.

The electorate is actually more pro life now than the 80s.

 

[William Tell]

The electorate is actually more pro life now than the 80s.

In a General election, all that matters is the Swing States. Most of them seem kinda liberal, and I assume that includes all issues. But I could be wrong.

 

[twomp]

Do the laws that we have against murder prevent all murders from happening? Of course not, but as a civilized society, we still have to have laws against murder.

So in your perfect world, the government would throw any woman who has an abortion in jail for life. Maybe even execute them? That's pretty "pro-life" there.

 

[Brett85]

So in your perfect world, the government would throw any woman who has an abortion in jail for life. Maybe even execute them? That's pretty "pro-life" there.

I certainly didn't say anything about executing women. If abortion were banned, it's likely that the abortionists would be prosecuted, since they would actually be committing the violent act.

 

[erowe1]

The democrat base <> democrat principles.

I'm not sure what that means. But what I said is still true.

 

[Origanalist]

I certainly didn't say anything about executing women. If abortion were banned, it's likely that the abortionists would be prosecuted, since they would actually be committing the violent act.

What happens to someone who hires a hit man?