Rand Paul Just won CPAC

I know it's just a straw poll but those results trouble me. What those people see in Rubio is beyond me.

These people adored Mittens and loved Bush. A lot of them did anyway.

They tend to be wealthy young Republicans at Ivy league colleges and from families who benefited from the contracts Bush was handing out when he was in office.

So it's no surprise to me.

Rubio is offering them a continuation of the scams and Rand is a threat to it.
 
Just as a talking point ...
If people say it was essentially a tie between Paul and Rubio than, using the same logic, it was essentially a tie between Santorum and [Ron] Paul as well.


Also, I haven't seen the actual vote counts ...
Who wins if you put Santorum and Rubio on one team and the Pauls on the other? Just curious.

Depends on who owns the website / poll.
 
Rand has said, numerous times, we should "stand with Israel" as well. I would wager the only reason both of them say that is to disarm the neocons and zionists. If you say you stand with Israel, how can they say you don't? And both have stated their "support of Israel" involves letting Israel make it's own decisions. All semantics.
 
What an incredible milestone this is. Hooray for the day. The tide is absolutely, unequivocally, turning. We will have our smaller government. We will have our liberty, peace, and prosperity, in my lifetime.
 
Why so they can run to the MSM and claim the same thing they did with Ron? A victory like this is excellent and gives the poll a little more credibility IMO.

Thats a pretty good point.

The issue question results were very encouraging that the party is now heading in the right direction as well. And regardless of what Rubio REALLY is, he REPRESENTS the "new GOP" and is considered almost the same as Rand. Unlike with Ron ... (where any non-supporter were apposed to him and had him as their last choice) Rand Paul is probably most of these people's second choice if it looks like Rubio won't win/run.

The over all talking point from the pundits on the CPAC will be that the "new GOP" has arrived.

... wow, I can't believe we did it. We all new a "New GOP" was coming - but I'm glad they've accepted that they'll have to follow our lead - I was worried it would all be based on appeal to Hispanics and women (I don't have a problem with either group btw) instead of Liberty in general.
 
This also shows that liberty is popular with the youth - not just people who might be branded as "one candidate republicans" (Ron Paul supporters).

It was obvious that the youth supported liberty and freedom ... I think Rand will communicate that position better than Rubio.
 
Politicians are generally full of shit. Cruz speaks well but lets not kid ourselves he's been planning this for a while. So therefore treat with caution.

I don't see it bud. Cruz's name recognition was damn near zero here in Texas. Had it not been for the teaparty he wouldn't have had a chance. Maybe he had been planning it, but he wasn't on the typical career politician path here in Texas.

That said, you may end up being right. Just too early to tell. He has earned my trust for now. Doesn't mean I wont remove that trust.

Slutter McGee
 
I don't see it bud. Cruz's name recognition was damn near zero here in Texas. Had it not been for the teaparty he wouldn't have had a chance. Maybe he had been planning it, but he wasn't on the typical career politician path here in Texas.

That said, you may end up being right. Just too early to tell. He has earned my trust for now. Doesn't mean I wont remove that trust.

Slutter McGee

People with Harvard degree's don't become solicitor general's of their state and grind it out for a relative pittance over 8 years. He always had an eye on higher office whether it was KBH, Cornyn or running for governor or something.

Just like George P. Bush doesn't want to really be a Land Commissioner but he knows he has to wait his turn, use it as a stepping stone and then wait for an opportunity to run for something better.

These people can make millions in the private sector. They're not selfless public servants by any stretch of the imagination.
 
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You might be surprised at how the net worth of public officials magically skyrockets when they take office.

His wife is already a rich banker. That's how he was able to spend the last 8 years in public office. Otherwise he would have been doing something else and making a comfortable living.

I am sure Goldman's can rely on Ted and his influence to help them out (like they need it!).
 
I honestly think Cruz kept his options open and wanted to probably be a judge or a senator. I don't believe he wanted to argue cases at the Supreme Court the rest of his life. That's pretty boring. As for the Senate he knew KBH or Cornyn would retire eventually and lets face it Dewhurst is not a very inspiring candidate so he always had a shot even though it looked bleak at the outset. He was pretty well connected and was able to land endorsements and raise millions. Not many people are capable of doing that and it was no random act. It didn't happen by chance. He didn't just say "i want to run for the Senate so i'm going to raise $10 million". This was plotted carefully and he probably knew he had a chance.
 
People with Harvard degree's don't become solicitor general's of their state and grind it out for a relative pittance over 8 years. He always had an eye on higher office whether it was KBH, Cornyn or running for governor or something.

Just like George P. Bush doesn't want to really be a Land Commissioner but he knows he has to wait his turn, use it as a stepping stone and then wait for an opportunity to run for something better.

These people can make millions in the private sector. They're not selfless public servants by any stretch of the imagination.

Cruz did work in the private sector after his stint as solicitor general. He was head of the appellate division of a large law firm. He must have been bored with it because his first idea was to run for attorney general. However, the current attorney general decided not to step down so he gave that up.

You really have a lot to learn about Texas politics. Perry didn't hire Cruz, Greg Abbott, the attorney general, did. His belief in the Constitution comes across as very heartfelt. As for the Israel love, I'm guessing it is religious in nature. His father is a Baptist preacher. Baptists in Texas are very pro-Israel.
 
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