Rand Paul Just won CPAC

[itshappening]

Ted is also a Harvard grad and champion debater. He's incredibly smart. The elite harvest a lot of recruits from Harvard including the current occupant of the White House.

It would not surprise me if they did have him speaking like Rand to steal some of his thunder. These people study everything Rand says and does and sends in someone to sound like him. It's not so far fetched.

 

[Brett85]

All of the articles I've read so far basically say, "these kind of straw polls are generally meaningless."

 

[Mr.NoSmile]

Play up Rubio in a way that sounds positive, but really shines the light on Rand?

Like: "Look at the CPAC results. Rubio did really well. He almost beat Rand Paul, that dude will be hard to beat in 2016."

Crude, but you get the idea. Not saying it's a good idea, just a suggestion.

So basically don't play down Rubio, don't come off as giving glowing support, but don't come off as a Paulite? Starting to grasp the concept of "Now you're speaking my language."

 

[itshappening]

Cruz is a patriot. I doubt an "establishment sleeper" would go to the Senate floor and spend 1 hour 40 minutes speaking during Rand Paul's filibuster.

He would if he was on a "mission" to duplicate him and steal his thunder and votes.

 

[compromise]

He would if he was on a "mission" to duplicate him and steal his thunder and votes.

Where do you even get these ridiculous conspiracies from?

 

[TokenLibertarianGuy]

Where do you even get these ridiculous conspiracies from?

Infowars

 

[AuH20]

He would if he was on a "mission" to duplicate him and steal his thunder and votes.

But this isn't a Dick Durbin situation in that he switched from republican to democrat overnight. Cruz gave speeches back in high school about Mises and Hayek. His thesis was written on the 9th and 10th amendments.

 

[itshappening]

Where do you even get these ridiculous conspiracies from?

You really think they just let anyone go to the US senate?

Ted was an appointed solicitor general in TX and worked for the Bush campaign.

So it would not surprise me if he's been told to speak like Rand in order to duplicate him and that's how he's being handled unless I see evidence to the contrary. You underestimate the establishment.

Remember Bush used to sound good when he said no nation building and he had a great record as TX governor. He was bought off though and when he was in the White House was nothing like the TX governor he was.

 

[AuH20]

You really think they just let anyone go to the US senate?

Ted was an appointed solicitor general in TX and worked for the Bush campaign.

So it would not surprise me if he's been told to speak like Rand in order to duplicate him and that's how he's being handled unless I see evidence to the contrary. You underestimate the establishment.

Remember Bush used to sound good when he said no nation building and he had a great record as TX governor. He was bought off though and when he was in the White House was nothing like the TX governor he was.

If this was true, Dewhurst would have abstained from running for the vacant Senate seat.

 

[puppetmaster]

Nothing in politics is an accident

 

[itshappening]

If this was true, Dewhurst would have abstained from running for the vacant Senate seat.

Same deal in FL where the House Speaker Rubio went up against the Governor Crist. Both bought off.

The establishment are very smart.

 

[itshappening]

They never just let someone run unopposed for a senate seat. There's always 2-3 candidates in the mix to provide the illusion of a choice.

All the US Senators except Rand who broke the Matrix due to his name and background and somehow Lee because of a coup at a nominating convention are bought off. It's hard to accept Ted is any different unless he proves otherwise.

He was appointed solicitor general and always had his eye on higher office otherwise he would have been making millions doing something else with Harvard degree's

 

[compromise]

You really think they just let anyone go to the US senate?

Ted was an appointed solicitor general in TX and worked for the Bush campaign.

So it would not surprise me if he's been told to speak like Rand in order to duplicate him and that's how he's being handled unless I see evidence to the contrary. You underestimate the establishment.

Hmmm...what about Amash..he donated $500 to McCain in '08..he secretly co-chaired Arab Americans for Romney...maybe the establishment are using him to duplicate Ron in the house. That's how he's being handled unless I see evidence to the contrary.

Do you seriously believe everyone who does not have "evidence to the contrary" is being handled by the establishment? Are you really that paranoid?

 

[itshappening]

Hmmm...what about Amash...he donated $500 to McCain in '08..he secretly co-chaired Arab Americans for Romney...maybe the establishment are using him to duplicate Ron in the house. That's how he's being handled unless I see evidence to the contrary.

Do you seriously believe everyone who does not have "evidence to the contrary" is being handled by the establishment? Are you really that paranoid?

Amash is a congressman which is less of a headache for the establishment. They have hundreds of those so can afford to let one who isn't completely bought off through. There's about 5 who aren't!

The senate is the big prize though and with 2 exceptions they're all bought off and it's no accident they're there.

 

[economics102]

Yes, I can see it now:

Establishment: "Ted, we want you go to the Senate and help Rand Paul. Be one of his strongest allies, help him accomplish anti-establishment things he couldn't accomplish without the help of his friends."

Ted Cruz: Ok!

Look, I'm not saying a little healthy skepticism isn't a wise policy, and I don't doubt that some of our allies will turn out to snakes, but you have to be willing to give people a chance and judge them by their actions, not just who they know.

If not Cruz, then what, we have one ally, Mike Lee, in the Senate? The guy who Harry Reid used to babysit?

<sits back and watches as debate shifts to whether babysitting qualifies as establishment corruption>

 

[itshappening]

Quit thinking Ted is a selfless public servant with his Harvard degree's. He's not.

Like all the Senators - apart from 2 - it's no accident he's there unless he proves otherwise. He's plotted this for 10 years. He could have been making millions in the private sector but decided to be a solictor general appointed by Gov. Perry who is a Bush acolyte.

Give me a break...

DC is a racket and all the politicians with a handful of exceptions out of 535 are bought off.

 

[jkob]

You guys are too paranoid. Cruz is an 'establishment plant' so he could take 4% of the vote at a post election year CPAC? The guy is an great ally of Rand in the senate, not perfect by any means but an ally none the less. Just because someone isn't Ron Paul-incarnate doesn't mean they're part of a massive conspiracy against us.

I don't believe Cruz can even run for president as he was born in Canada.

 

[radiofriendly]

Raw footage of audience reaction of Straw Poll vote:

More info: www.iroots.org

 

[AuH20]

Same deal in FL where the House Speaker Rubio went up against the Governor Crist. Both bought off.

The establishment are very smart.

#1 Rubio never embraced the grassroots and #2 he was never the extreme longshot that Cruz was. At one time, Cruz was below 10% overall against Dewhurst.

 

[PatriotOne]

Is Ted Cruz an establishment sleeper who they've got speaking like Rand Paul? I'm still a little weary of him.

I am also a bit leery. I like what he says but his past credentials makes me keep one eye open. And this is exactly the type of thing the Bush faction, et al, would do.