Rand Paul: I'm Not a libertarian...

[Christian Liberty]

You can support legalizing drugs and still oppose drug use. I do.

 

[Thor]

You can support legalizing drugs and still oppose drug use. I do.

I am 100% on board with RSO (Rick Simpson (Hemp) Oil) - and maybe Rand doesn't know what that is yet and what it has healed.... but none the less, I am willing to bet he is open minded enough to at least look at the facts (Google: "Rick Simpson Oil Cancer" if you have any questions....)

But perhaps I am wrong... maybe Rand supports big Pharma too....

 

[Brett85]

You can support legalizing drugs and still oppose drug use. I do.

Me too. My goal is to legalize drugs and then convince every single American not to use them.

 

[Brett85]

Why didn't Ron Paul embrace it in 1996? He ran pretty hard away from his past pro-drug stances while running for Congress again as a non-imcumbent:

I don't know, but he sure didn't run away from his views last year, even though it wasn't politically expedient to do so. Maybe Ron became more hardcore and uncompromising as he got older. But, saying that Heroin should be legalized in a GOP debate certainly wasn't politically expedient.

But, this isn't 1996. In 1996, support for legalizing marijuana was at about 20%, and today it's at about 55%. Times have changed.

 

[Thor]

Me too. My goal is to legalize drugs and then convince every single American not to use them.

Alcohol is a good test model... how did that work out? Oh wait... no recorded death due to THC... hmmm... ok, scrap that...

"Drugs are bad, mmmmkay?" (But cannabinoids are part of the human anatomy... confused....)

 

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Going back to that 1996 news column, I sort of feel like if Rand Paul said this:

In fact, [Ron Paul] stresses that he's never seen an illegal drug and wrote in his newsletter that while he wants to legalize drugs, he does not condone their use: "Who knows... they might turn you into a raving liberal."

It would result in another blow-up thread. It's not much different from the BS "Rand Paul said Libertarians are druggies!" One can almost see the thread title on this site now: "Rand Paul says peaceful marijuana smokers are raving liberals!"

 

[Christian Liberty]

Me too. My goal is to legalize drugs and then convince every single American not to use them.

Good luck, that's a bit utopian

 

[Icymudpuppy]

Well, I never expected this thread to go on this long. This is longer than any other thread I've started, and yet, not one person has apologized for Rand's statement. Not one person has said: I am sorry, that Rand said that, and I want to personally apologize as his surrogate."

Instead, All I've gotten is "We evangelicals don't need you anyway".

Way to maintain the coalition, guys.

 

[klamath]

Well, I never expected this thread to go on this long. This is longer than any other thread I've started, and yet, not one person has apologized for Rand's statement. Not one person has said: I am sorry, that Rand said that, and I want to personally apologize as his surrogate."

Instead, All I've gotten is "We evangelicals don't need you anyway".

Way to maintain the coalition, guys.

way to break up a coalition guy, posting inflamatory thread. But for your information that coalition has long since split. What exists here now is just a normal news story free for all comment section. There is NO unified goal or coalition anymore.

 

[Rudeman]

Well, I never expected this thread to go on this long. This is longer than any other thread I've started, and yet, not one person has apologized for Rand's statement. Not one person has said: I am sorry, that Rand said that, and I want to personally apologize as his surrogate."

Instead, All I've gotten is "We evangelicals don't need you anyway".

Way to maintain the coalition, guys.

What is there to apologize for? What offended you? Why do you want an apology? Would an apology change anything for you?

 

[cajuncocoa]

But for your information that coalition has long since split. What exists here now is just a normal news story free for all comment section. There is NO unified goal or coalition anymore.

This might be the first true thing you've posted all day.

 

[sailingaway]

Going back to that 1996 news column, I sort of feel like if Rand Paul said this:



It would result in another blow-up thread. It's not much different from the BS "Rand Paul said Libertarians are druggies!" One can almost see the thread title on this site now: "Rand Paul says peaceful marijuana smokers are raving liberals!"

quit picking fights.

That is simply hilarious, and notice the ellipses. Again, Rove was driving the media against Ron in 1996 hence the newsletter crap.

 

[sailingaway]

Well, I never expected this thread to go on this long. This is longer than any other thread I've started, and yet, not one person has apologized for Rand's statement. Not one person has said: I am sorry, that Rand said that, and I want to personally apologize as his surrogate."

Instead, All I've gotten is "We evangelicals don't need you anyway".

Way to maintain the coalition, guys.

re bolded, that seems a bizarrely unlibertarian view to take if you identify as a libertarian. Ron sure as hell doesn't apologize for anything anyone else says, why would any of us?

No one is anyone's surrogate here.

 

[devil21]

Thread now seems like a distraction from all the actually important stuff going on.

 

[Christian Liberty]

@Sailing- Nobody should apologize for Rand. But they shouldn't just act like Ron Paul's radical libertarian base doesn't matter either.

 

[Icymudpuppy]

What is there to apologize for? What offended you? Why do you want an apology? Would an apology change anything for you?

Because he stereotyped me as a nudist pothead. I am a Libertarian, and I have never used nor advocated the use of marijuana, nor have I ever gone out in public naked, or advocated that anyone else do so, yet He dismissed me in a public setting as advocating nudity and marijuana use, as if my financial and activist support of his campaign is useless.

 

[jct74]

Because he stereotyped me as a nudist pothead. I am a Libertarian, and I have never used nor advocated the use of marijuana, nor have I ever gone out in public naked, or advocated that anyone else do so, yet He dismissed me in a public setting as advocating nudity and marijuana use, as if my financial and activist support of his campaign is useless.

but do you have the full continuous quote to be able to determine that? Rand was quoted with two sets of quotation marks, so the sentences he spoke could have been minutes apart.

the media has twisted Rand's words many times before, I give Rand the benefit the doubt before I give it to some MSM rag. Jack Hunter brought up this point in a column he wrote a few weeks ago.
http://www.southernavenger.com/unca...ive-liberty-leaders-the-benefit-of-the-doubt/

 

[cajuncocoa]

but do you have the full continuous quote to be able to determine that? Rand was quoted with two sets of quotation marks, so the sentences he spoke could have been minutes apart.

I contacted his office via email to ask this question. Will post it here if I get a response. I really hope you're right, jct74.

 

[supermario21]

What does Karl Rove have anything to do with Ron's 1996 campaign? When he was running against Lefty Morris that was the general election, not a primary.

 

[radiofriendly]

This post is hilariously our of hand and now getting very childish...Anyone who has been out campaigning for Ron Paul (in multiple states), I would imagine has come across some (not the rule--not saying the majority) nudist (or some sort of crazy sex workers) and pot heads that you had to conspire to hide from Republican donors. This happend in Iowa and New Hampshire. Anyone meet Star Child in Iowa? Yep, that was his name. In New Hampshire I went canvassing with Ron Paul's grandaughters--and they were given printed propaganda to hand out promoting Ron Paul and pot by the local...grassroots...organizers. These "activists" were canvassing for Ron Paul - but just dropping off legalization flyers...

If you don't have a sense of humor about this stuff, you must be insane!