Rand Paul, George P. Bush talk Hispanic outreach

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http://www.politico.com/story/2014/...ach-republicans-gop-103281.html#ixzz2skB9YGmw

Sen. Rand Paul on Friday met with George P. Bush, a rising star in Texas GOP politics, to discuss how to broaden the Republican Party’s appeal in diverse communities.

“Really I wanted to get advice from him, as much as anything, about how the party grows in Texas and states with large Hispanic populations,” Paul (R-Ky.) told POLITICO backstage after stumping for a state senate candidate here.

Bush recommended “showing up” in those communities, Paul said. The senator, who has said he is seriously considering a 2016 presidential bid, often talks about the importance of growing the Republican Party, and has made it a point to reach out to minority communities. Bush, the son of former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, is running for land commissioner here, and as a Hispanic Republican — his mother is from Mexico — has been a vocal advocate for expanding the GOP tent.
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Paul’s comments came after a speech at the Frontiers of Flight museum, where he threw himself into a hotly contested GOP state senate primary by campaigning for a tea party-backed candidate, Don Huffines, a real estate developer who has known the Paul family for decades.

“The Huffines family has always stood with the Paul family,” he said before delving into one of his standard speeches in which he skewered wasteful spending. “The Paul family stands with the Huffines family.”
 
I don't know if a banker from Miami can say anything about Hispanic outreach that Reince could have said. I think some people will despise what GP Bush is doing. Getting a token job in the least important office. Then he can mouth off as a Texan Leader about how the GOP doesn't pass immigration reform.

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Speaking in a mix of English and sometimes-halting Spanish, George P. Bush said his uncle was not to blame for the gun policy, which has angered Mexicans. He instead blamed it on "some local INS (Immigration and Naturalization Service) guy who's trying to be tough, act macho."

http://michellemalkin.com/2004/08/22/george-p-bush-disses-the-border-patrol/
 
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I guess they let anti-liberty people post here?;)

Seriously though, is there any VALID reason for the Wenzel hate? Or is it just that he doesn't support Rand's pandering?

One, he's a fake. Two, he is politically naive. Three, he's a jerk.

I'm sure George P. is a much nicer person and has more insight than Wenzel, who has no real world experience.

I'm not saying I'm a George P. supporter, although I think he is more conservative than the rest of his family. I would rather meet him though.
 
I guess they let anti-liberty people post here?;)

Seriously though, is there any VALID reason for the Wenzel hate? Or is it just that he doesn't support Rand's pandering?

You must be talking about yourself, because there isn't a thing wrong with what TaftFan said. How frickin' rude of you and CajunCocoa!
 
The latter, of course. I like Wenzel.

I don't really know much about him, but I suspect I'd probably like him too, seeing how the more moderate people here are ticked off at him. I like Rand Paul too... most of the time. But that doesn't make anyone who criticizes him somehow an "enemy of liberty" or whatever other nonsense.

Frankly, I'm prejudiced against the Bush family name. If someone with the last name "Bush" and from that family came forward with all of Ron Paul's positions, I'd probably still think they were lying. I'm not saying its fair, but that's where I'm at. George W. went into the debates criticizing Bill Clinton's interventionism, then "9-11 changed everything" and he stabbed liberty in the back. Not to mention H.W. openly supporting "New World Order." I don't know, I just don't trust them, period.

One, he's a fake. Two, he is politically naive. Three, he's a jerk.

I have a hard time believing these things, even if they were true, could possibly make him worse than anyone with "Bush" as a last name (See my above post about prejudice.)

I'd rather meet ANY libertarian, even one who was politically irrelevant, to any of them. Unless it were a meeting with George W. for the sake of telling him to repent of his wickedness, which would be enjoyable.

I'm sure George P. is a much nicer person and has more insight than Wenzel, who has no real world experience.

I don't care if someone can talk nice while wanting to steal from me and use the funds to murder people overseas. Are these things not true of George P.?

I have a little grace in this regard when it comes to the ignorant masses, since at least they don't actually INTEND to steal from me or kill people overseas, even if they support other people doing it which is bad enough. But I lose any such sympathy when such a person runs for office.

I'm sure you'd rather meet George P. than me as well, which is actually probably understandable;) I'll stick with principles.

I'm not saying I'm a George P. supporter, although I think he is more conservative than the rest of his family. I would rather meet him though.

I don't think I could get through the meeting, considering I strongly believe George P. to be as sociopathic as most politicians.
You must be talking about yourself, because there isn't a thing wrong with what TaftFan said. How frickin' rude of you and CajunCocoa!

I was kind of joking, but.. whatever else you can say about Wenzel, to my understanding he supports liberty. George P. does not.

Now, there are situations where you could argue that it doesn't matter, but in this case, both are political figures, so it doesn't matter.

I don't really believe TaftFan is anti-liberty, I just think that was a silly comment based on irrational hate of Bob Wenzel. I'd like to see evidence that the hatred is justified.
 
George P has done a good job trying to expand the GOP to include more ethnic minorities, especially Hispanics. It makes sense for Rand to meet him.
 
Yeah, I understand that. Rand is a politician as well, so I don't really expect him to shun the sociopaths like I would. But I'd still rather meet Bob Wenzel, personally.
 
Seriously though, is there any VALID reason for the Wenzel hate? Or is it just that he doesn't support Rand's pandering?
I can't stand Wenzel, because he treats Ron Paul like a 3 year old. Whenever Ron does something he does not like, he blames it on Rand, Jesse, and "Paul Inc" as he calls it. His hobby is putting out hit pieces on the Paul family. Seriously, If he disagrees with Ron over something. Endorsements, etc. He should say so, not imply that he is senile and being manipulated.

For the record, George P Bush is bad news.
 
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I don't know if a banker from Miami can say anything about Hispanic outreach that Reince could have said. I think some people will despise what GP Bush is doing. Getting a token Being given a job in the least important oldest and most powerful office. Then he can mouth off as a Texan Leader about how the GOP doesn't pass immigration reform.

Fixed.

I take it you aren't from Texas. The office also has a direct pipeline to the Lieutenant Governorship. In a decade, he will be President George P. Bush. Watch out.
 
I can't stand Wenzel, because he treats Ron Paul like a 3 year old. Whenever Ron does something he does not like, he blames it on Rand, Jesse, and "Paul Inc" as he calls it. His hobby is putting out hit pieces on the Paul family. Seriously, If he disagrees with Ron over something. Endorsements, etc. He should say so, not imply that he is senile and being manipulated.

For the record, George P Bush is bad news.

Can you prove some evidence for these accusations against Wenzel? Again, I'm not saying you are wrong, I just don't know Wenzel well. Lew Rockwell seems to think he's a good guy so I'd want to see some evidence before assuming Rockwell is wrong.

Should Ron not have worked with Democrats like Dennis Kucinich and Barney Frank since he disagreed with them on the majority of the issues?

I see your point, and I don't have any issue with Rand having the meeting. I just personally strongly dislike the Bush family. Some of the reasons aren't completely rational. I know I'd disown anyone in my family for doing half as much damage to America as George W. did, doubly so because I know (Yes, I will claim to know this, despite lack of hard proof) he did it on purpose. I don't see how you could knowingly have a family member that is a sociopath yet continue to treat him like he's a good guy. That fact alone kind of makes me automatically dislike anyone in that family. I don't put that on Rand, of course. The reality is that the Bush family is powerful. I hope Rand can manipulate them for his own ends.

Kucinich, here's the thing... I think he held a lot of bad positions, probably more of them than George W. when you add them up, but I honestly do believe Kucinich was sincere about those positions. The reason I think that was because he was almost a liberal version of Ron Paul in the sense that he was opposed to his establishment, and reached across the aisle to get things done when there was a good goal in common, hence why he was able to work with Ron Paul. I suspect similar might apply to Barney Frank, but I don't know anything about him. Its not that I like Kucinich, but I don't think he's consciously evil the way I think Bush (George W., at least) is.

And again, that's me personally. I don't put that on Rand.
 
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