Rand Paul Falsely Accused of Plagiarizing NSA Lawsuit by Mattie Fein

[RM918]

People are being ruthlessly murdered by the imperial machine every day and these are the niggling little things that the public at large gets worried about, newsletters and plagiarism. Misguided college antics at best discrediting an entire philosophy. This country deserves what it's going to get.

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

Even if Rand did plagiarize, one would think Fein would appreciate that something he wrote was gaining attention and privately ask Rand to credit him for his work.

Not if it was agreed that he would be paid for his work. He's a lawyer; this is what he does for a living.

 

[Crashland]

Why would Rand go ahead with the big lawsuit filing if there was any chance of this kind of accusation happening? I don't think Rand is that stupid to do something that he thought would open the door for attacks that feed right into an already established narrative about him and plagiarism. Something doesn't add up here. I hope he gets to the bottom of it and it turns out not to be what it seems like.

 

[TaftFan]

Well he has to do something to rectify the situation. Plagiarism charges are terrible, especially considering that he's already been accused of that.

It should be done privately.

 

[jj-]

Not if it was agreed that he would be paid for his work. He's a lawyer; this is what he does for a living.

Like the tomato grower whose tomatoes were stolen is pleased by how the freshness and quality of his tomatoes are known and appreciated by the family who ate them.

 

[Brett85]

The only good thing about all of this is that it's happening early, and Rand has time to get it turned around. This situation needs to be rectified, and then he needs to drop the Bill Clinton garbage for good. We live in an immoral country where people don't care about a President committing serial adultery.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Something doesn't add up here.

Well, you have Freedomworks Incorporated there in the mix. And conveniently left out of context here. It makes sense for political corporations/non profits to stimulate debate regarding the terms of controversy into that which support Intellectual Property when it comes to their incorporated brand of free speech and impact on political and legal processes that have traditionally and historically been reserved for the natural citizen and his/her interests in representation as an individual. As it is, the meme has been "FreedomWorks Takes on the NSA". Which is the usual astroturfing from some of these entities but when we start talking about political processes and legal processes in context with Intellectual Property while aligned with politicans and lawyers then it's reason for concern. Just the other day, someone tried to give me a script to offer my representatives regarding this issue yet by the pen of these non profit political corporations. You see where this is heading?

Cripes, I was just reading about a mascot for the liberty movement the other day some place even. Am sure that would have a trademark on it some place too if the political leeches ever pulled it off .

I don't know about you folks but I'm going to be keeping a very keen eye on Freedomworks Incorporated's language with this one in the coming days. It seems like one of those problem, reaction, solution kind of things to me.

 

[jj-]

Rand did a pretty idiotic thing here, his name is all over the news for plagiarizing again. He can't even file a lawsuit without stealing someone's words.

 

[jj-]

LOL, I expect to see a headline "Rand Paul files plagiarized lawsuit to stop NSA abuses".

 

[Crashland]

LOL, I expect to see a headline "Rand Paul files plagiarized lawsuit to stop NSA abuses".

That's a given. The damage has already been done so there's no use complaining over spilled milk. We do need some time though to see how this will develop. The problem is fresh out of the box and we have not even heard Rand respond to this yet. I think we need to at least hear from him before laying down judgment

 

[Petar]

Lots of business gets done in an undefined manner before agreements are finalized. It looks to me like Fein volunteered his work and then cried like a little bitch when the arrangement did not turn out as expected. Talk about stabbing the liberty movement in the back. Petty little fucker.

 

[devil21]

Maybe I missed something but how does the Washington Post know whether Fein's legal bills have been paid or not? The article "declares" it but gives no source or quote for that particular piece of information.

 

[Crashland]

Maybe I missed something but how does the Washington Post know whether Fein's legal bills have been paid or not? The article "declares" it but gives no source or quote for that particular piece of information.

I would assume that the source is "Mattie Fein, his ex-wife and spokeswoman". She appears to be the only source for the whole story at the moment.

 

[tsai3904]

Maybe I missed something but how does the Washington Post know whether Fein's legal bills have been paid or not? The article "declares" it but gives no source or quote for that particular piece of information.

Mattie Fein spoke to the Post

 

[angelatc]

EDIT: It was just brought to my attention that the person being quoted in the article is Mattie Fein, NOT Bruce, and that Mattie is Bruce's EX-WIFE.

I do not know why I know this, but I don't think they actually divorced. I seem to recall that they filed, but then decided it was too much trouble to go through with it.

 

[devil21]

I would assume that the source is "Mattie Fein, his ex-wife and spokeswoman". She appears to be the only source for the whole story at the moment.

I understand that but there is no quotation to that effect. It's a lead-in to her comments but only as a declaration by the author, not by Mattie Fein. With Rand bashing on the Clintons lately and WaPo being a notorious liberal paper, I'm questioning everything. If Fein was paid then he has no claim to the content of the suit and certainly can't claim plagiarism. I'd like to see something other than just Milbank's assertion, tied nicely inside someone else's quotes, regarding payment for Fein's services.

 

[Crashland]

The only explanation that makes sense is that Rand was blindsided by this. Unless he has some crazy plan to turn this on its head again, there's no way that Rand would have known about this and allowed it to potentially blow up in his face instead of resolving it privately. Something tells me Fein was waiting to backstab him until the lawsuit was filed. Even if it did come as a surprise to Fein that he was not on the suit, and even if he does have a legitimate complaint, you would think that if he was really on Rand's side he would have gone to Rand to resolve it privately instead of having his ex-wife spokeswoman break the story to the washington post on the very same day.

 

[angelatc]

Sibel Ebmunds (remember her?) has pretty much nothing good to say about Bruce Fein. http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/category/bruce-fein_the_greatest_threat_to_the_ron_paul_candidacy/

Seems he has a habit of doing work for people, then not sending them bills?

 

[devil21]

Sibel Ebmunds (remember her?) has pretty much nothing good to say about Bruce Fein. http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/category/bruce-fein_the_greatest_threat_to_the_ron_paul_candidacy/

Seems he has a habit of doing work for people, then not sending them bills?

That's a good link there. I forgot Fein was also Ron's chief counsel. Why anyone would rely on a through-and-through insider like Fein is beyond me, particularly if you're running an insurgent campaign.

 

[Crashland]

Right now I'm just pissed. Even if the whole thing turns out to be totally bogus, no matter what Rand does this one's probably going to hit where it hurts. Takes the wind right out of the sails with the whole defending the 4th amendment deal. Good thing it's so early.