Rand Paul Confronted on Mitt Romney Endorsement by wearechange

[TheGrinch]

I think you're asking the wrong questions, why is he dodging the questions and what is his true intent behind the endorsement? Nobody knows and that is why we're trying to get answers from the horses mouth.

Watch the Peter Schiff and Ben Swann interviews with Rand. They actually set up appointments with him, and got real legitimate answers (really way more seemingly honest answers than you'd expect for a public interview about his stealth strategy).

 

[wongster41]

Who said that they would? Of course it's going to be a fight. The question is do you go into the fight with your shoes tied together and one are taped to your body or not? Rand already has strong name recognition so a "blackout" won't work. The other trick used against Ron was the "He's outside the party mainstream" argument. Rand is working hard to avoid that. They may dig up something from Rand's past to try to derail him. The "AquaBuddha" thing didn't work, but they might dig up other "victims". If all else fails there's the Dealay Plaza option.

Or maybe there won't be a fight, we can only speculate right now as to what Rand will or won't do. I just have to go by the facevalue right now and question his recent action.

 

[jmdrake]

Or maybe there won't be a fight, we can only speculate right now as to what Rand will or won't do. I just have to go by the facevalue right now and question his recent action.

Yeah. But you still haven't answered my questions. Rand showed that he would answer reporters who are respectful and don't go off into conspiracy theory lala land.

 

[JohnGalt23g]

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It's like arguing at the dawn of recording technology that because such technology can be used to listen into somebody's home, the state should be precluded from owning tape recorders. Not only is it not going to happen, there are some uses of recording technology I want the state to have access to. I want 911 to be able to record phone calls for emergency responders. I want the Mafia to have to worry about being bugged.

But I also want both mafioso and car crash victims to be broadly (and I mean very broadly) protected by the Fourth Amendment.

Likewise, I like the idea of drones monitoring traffic on the roadways. Surely we can agree that is a legitimate responsibility of the State. Why shouldn't we expect them to undertake their task in the cheapest, most efficient manner possible, so long as the people are properly protected from the possible abuses that such efficiency might enable?

 

[July]

The establishment is going to be watching our every move now, and when you do something as stupid as writing such nonsense on Rand's FB page, you are only hurting our cause because you allow the establishment to point and say, "look at those crazies!".

That's pretty much what happened. I'm glad Rand defended us, saying it was just a small number.

 

[wongster41]

Yeah. But you still haven't answered my questions. Rand showed that he would answer reporters who are respectful and don't go off into conspiracy theory lala land.

so you're suggesting bilderberg is a conspiracy theory?

 

[wongster41]

I'm asking the right questions. You're just dodging them.

No, Rand is dodging them.

 

[PatriotOne]

You know what? Anything is possible, including the Pauls being controlled opposition. As for Alex Jones, so far I've consistently heard him support the Pauls (Rand an Ron) and just attack theirs strategy. Some of his writers have gone overboard. (Kurt Nimmo specifically).

If Ron was controlled opposition, he would be the GOP nominee in August. The media would not have spent the last 5 years marginalizing him, calling him a kook and fringe candidate every chance they got and we wouldn't have had to fight for every inch we have gained.

Alex is trying to maintain "plausible deniabilty" as far as his support of Ron/Rand by giving his writers and lapdogs the dirty work. Alex has control over the content on his website. In espionage, plausible deniability refers to the ability of a "powerful player" or intelligence agency to avoid "blowback" by secretly arranging for an action to be taken on their behalf by a third party.

 

[Brett85]

Did you all see Rand on Glenn Beck show?

What a prick

I listened to it. It was a fantastic interview.

 

[JohnGalt23g]

1. these 'politicians' work for the people. Someone has a chance to ask some questions on video, then by god they need to be polite, and answer the motherfuckin interviewer. What is 2 minutes of time going to do?...prevent him from starting world war 3?....

2. All you Rand apologists would have no problem with Luke doing the same tactic with say Rumsfeld or McCain, or Graham, or Holder....riiiight?

3. Rand endorsed Mitt, and thats not a problem?....please explain to me how that isn't a problem, and stop with the BS of he's trying to build bridges to get his agenda through...it doesn't pass the smell test, and from here it smells like an open sewer.

1) Rand Paul works for the people of the Commonwealth of Kentucky, not wearederanged.org. As an officeholder, he has an office. In polite, adult society, someone who would like to speak with that (very busy) officeholder makes arrangements through that office. That way the Senator's very valuable time isn't wasted... especially by someone who, quite frankly, doesn't rate.

2) If Graham or McCain or Holder told them to call thier office for an interview, and they persisted, it would still be rude, obnoxious and juvenile. Yeah, I have a problem with all three of those, no matter who suffers.

3) Rand endorsed the man who has garnered enough delegates to the RNC that he is going to be the nominee of our party. And by our, I mean Ron Paul's party, Rand Paul's party, and my party. Sometimes politics dictates that you get your ass in line behind the leader of your party. Given that the current occupier of the White House maintains he has the authority to sic death robots on American citizens without judicial or Congressional oversight... yeah, this is one of those times.

 

[jmdrake]

so you're suggesting bilderberg is a conspiracy theory?

You're suggesting it's not? Don't get me wrong. I believe it's real. People have theories about what's going on. Hence conspiracy theory.

 

[jmdrake]

No, Rand is dodging them.

Ummm....how is Rand dodging the questions I asked you?

 

[Brett85]

Oh yea like presenting halfass 500 billion dollar budget cuts?

Rand has no charisma or real desire for change. He enjoys his time in DC, and yet everyone supports him because of his name (not a free-market solution)

A 500 billion budget cut is "halfass?" Wow, you're something else.

 

[Brett85]

Sometimes, I really hate this movement and now is one of those times.

The anarchists/liberals have taken over the movement.

 

[jmdrake]

If Ron was controlled opposition, he would be the GOP nominee in August.

Ummm....do you know what controlled opposition means? You don't let the controlled opposition win. That's the point. It's someone designed to take a dive from the beginning. Ron's lack of attacking Mitt Romney is questionable. When Mitt opened himself up for attack on more than one occasion Ron actually came to Mitt's defense. Why did Ron release the "etch-a-sketch" ad that attacked Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich instead of dog piling on Mitt like he was supposed to do if he was serious about winning? Why did Ron defend Mitt on the Bain capital attack when he could have just kept silent? People inside and out of the movement were raising the question of whether Ron was in some sort of alliance with Mitt. Folks said "their just good friends". Well Ron was friends with Michelle Bachman too. That didn't keep them from robustly attacking each other.

Edit: And let me reiterate I'm not saying I know Ron is controlled opposition. In fact I don't think he is. But if we're going to start questioning everyone.....

 

[wongster41]

You're suggesting it's not? Don't get me wrong. I believe it's real. People have theories about what's going on. Hence conspiracy theory.

Well, we know the Bilderberg meetings are happening so it's no longer a theory, we know people in high power or the elites of the world are getting together for annual meetings, we know for a fact that they do now. As to what's being discussed, we can only speculate but to call Bilderberg a conspiracy theory and dismissing it as nothing important and discrediting it as 'lala land' as you put it, just makes you look ignorant on the subject.

 

[BamaAla]

Oh look - a bunch of social rejects crying because someone they thought loved them has rejected them like everyone else. These hate Rand threads could be a great study for a psychology graduate student. Get over it...

 

[ShowMeLiberty]

 

[jmdrake]

Well, we know the Bilderberg meetings are happening so it's no longer a theory, we know people in high power or the elites of the world are getting together for annual meetings, we know for a fact that they do now. As to what's being discussed, we can only speculate but to call Bilderberg a conspiracy theory and dismissing it as nothing important and discrediting it as 'lala land' as you put it, just makes you look ignorant on the subject.

Looking ignorant about conspiracy theories is politically smart. As I said, I have no personal political viability. If I was helping someone run for office I would want them to appear ignorant on the subject.

 

[wongster41]

Three questions.

1) Why do you want Rand to talk (more) about Bilderberg?

2) What question do you still have about the endorsement?

3) Since Rand said long ago he would endorse the eventual nominee, do you think he should have broken his promise?

I think I've already answered these questions you want me to answer so bad, but as I've already said, people have questions about the recent endorsement. His endorsement went against everything he stood for, so people now have questions, why is that hard to understand? Yes, rand might have said he would endorse the nominee but the timing is waaaaay off, we are still fighting the delegate process and working with lawyers to unbound those delegates to tampa. Rand's endorsement is just way off base and people have questions.