Rand Paul can’t believe he’s losing to this guy: ‘This whole thing with Trump is insane’

[jj-]

I've never gotten over Rand kissing McConnell's ass and lending that bas - tard credibility by endorsing him. That's something Ron never would have done.

What probably pisses people off is the contrast between how Rand treats Trump and other Republicans. If you see Rand endorsing McConnell, arguing that "he is conservative", then attacking Trump as "a fake conservative" is a lot less credible. You see Rand try to kiss and make up with everyone including holding a fundraising together with Jeb Bush and being generally nice to him, meeting with Bill Kristol, and all of a sudden he is hardcore aggressive against Trump.

 

[LibertyEagle]

You presume, we do not. And the reasonable response to this aggravation in the electorate is to stop paying illegals for crashing the party, and give us the freedom to start small businesses and fix the economy. The Trump Roundup is just another way to drive up the debt. It could never remove them faster than they come back across, wall or no, if we're still paying them to come here.

I agree that this is the best way to handle it. But, with our sold out Congress, I won't hold my breath. Plus, I'm none to keen of giving amnesty to ANY of those who illegally came here. For one, it's just not fair to all those who are from other areas of the world and are doing it legally. The birthright citizenship has to stop too.

 

[LibertyEagle]

I've never gotten over Rand kissing McConnell's ass and lending that bas - tard credibility by endorsing him. That's something Ron never would have done.

He not only would, he did things very similar to this more than once.

 

[jj-]

If his fathers' supporters have gone to Trump, then it disproves any ideas about the "Ron Paul Revolution" being anything about ideology or being informed voters. It proves what others said all along that all they ever were, were trolls. kinda sad really.

Do you think it's impossible for an authentic Ron Paul supporter to support Trump over Rand due to having different priorities on the issues? For example, thinking that Trump is more likely to dismantle the multicountry trade agreements than Rand? In my opinion, that is a reasonable position and is someone one can talk with. People on this forum like acptulsa and gunny on the other hand would bash him claiming he is paid by Trump and had his brain eaten by worms and is going to hell (that over the top stupidity is actually funny).

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Do you think it's impossible for an authentic Ron Paul supporter to support Trump over Rand due to having different priorities positions on the issues?

fify. YES.

For example, thinking that Trump is more likely to dismantle the multicountry trade agreements than Rand?

and replace them with the kinds of punitive tariffs that brought you High Fructose Corn Syrup.

In my opinion, that is a reasonable position and is someone one can talk with.

Of course you think so.

People on this forum like acptulsa and gunny on the other hand would bash him claiming he is paid by Trump

Quote me where I have ever said anybody was a paid agent of anyone, or admit that you just lied about what I say/believe.

and had his brain eaten by worms and is going to hell (that over the top stupidity is actually funny).

Paul is pretty clear about what happens to those who have no love of truth. When times up, at least you can't claim that nobody warned you.

 

[NewRightLibertarian]

At the end of the day, the electorate is just too fucking stupid to deserve the blessings of freedom.

 

[Krugminator2]

I've never gotten over Rand kissing McConnell's ass and lending that bas - tard credibility by endorsing him. That's something Ron never would have done.

Ummmmm....... I'm not even going to correct how ignorant that is. I see these posts are so wrong and ill informed.

You are right. Ron Paul is 7 ft tall. Owned up to chopping down the cherry tree. All that good stuff. St. L. Ron Christ Paul could do only right and no wrong.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Paul is pretty clear about what happens to those who have no love of truth. When times up, at least you can't claim that nobody warned you.

The truth isn't going to help us very much if Rand doesn't move up in the polls.

 

[jj-]

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[Danke]

That wasn't just a barrier. They killed people in order to stop them from crossing it. Armed guards were severely punished if people successfully crossed under their watch. There were also dogs and beds of nails.

It's also the perfect example of the barrier being used to keep the East Germans in as much as keeping foreigners out.

Rand should probably do more to point out how Trump is emulating East Germany in his immigration stances.

My point is it is possible.

Dumbass.


And with modern technology, even easier.

 

[thoughtomator]

it was plenty possible to get out of East Germany, you just couldn't do it easily by entering the West Berlin enclave. Hysterical hyperbole fail

 

[GunnyFreedom]

The truth isn't going to help us very much if Rand doesn't move up in the polls.

I'd rather lose as a truth-teller than win as a lying demagogue gasbag. Most of us who were attracted to Ron Paul were attracted because of his principles. Those who were attracted to him simply because he 'opposed the establishment' are nothing but dead weight, and we will perform far better without such an albatross around our necks.

 

[jj-]

Those who were attracted to him simply because he 'opposed the establishment' are nothing but dead weight, and we will perform far better without such an albatross around our necks.

What is 'far better'? 30%?

 

[idiom]

The electorate is out of touch with right and wrong. Hopefully Rand can help bring more people around to support freedom like his dad did. If he fails, then at least he stuck to his principles instead of pandering to the statists.

Lol wut.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Trump doesn't denounce the NSA, he supports it.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/42683540...for-nsa-phone-data-collection/?#sp=show-clips

 

[acptulsa]

Lol wut.

I remember when John Wesley Dean III went to jail. He wasn't there long. People wouldn't have let him be there long. Public opinion was too strong for him. But apparently someone thought he had to go to jail for a few months, in order to save his life.

And they may have been right about that. They really might have. I remember the minority attitude at the time. I caught murmurs of it, though I was young.

As long as Rand Paul doesn't want Snowden to go there alone, or for long, I can understand that.

 

[PCKY]

I've never gotten over Rand kissing McConnell's ass and lending that bas - tard credibility by endorsing him. That's something Ron never would have done.

He had no choice. There are things McConnell can/is doing for him now that make a huge difference. The KyGOP for one thing with this caucus. Cruz in the Senate...and we'll see what else McConnell can do moving forward. Politics make strange bedfellows.

 

[specsaregood]

Do you think it's impossible for an authentic Ron Paul supporter to support Trump over Rand due to having different priorities on the issues? For example, thinking that Trump is more likely to dismantle the multicountry trade agreements than Rand? In my opinion, that is a reasonable position and is someone one can talk with.

Anything is possible. But if anybody thinks Trump is going to do anything to actually better this country or anything other than grow govt and empower the political and elite class then they are a dumbass.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

Rand is out of touch with the electorate. I don't know if it's Doug Stafford or Washington changed Rand?? Earth to Rand. Gate Crashers are not immigrants. They're illegal aliens

Precisely! And playing with words like that is something out of the left's playbook.

 

[jkob]

Rand is a coward for his stance on Snowden, he should be calling him a hero