Rand Paul assaulted at Kentucky home (UPDATE: 6 broken ribs)

[dannno]

13 pages and not one mention of how an unnamed witness saw a second assailant on Senator Paul......

Skaggs?? (the assailant, not the wintess)

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Not in a clear cut case like this, what would normally happen under these circumstances is the following:

1 he pleads guilty to the first inadequate charge
2 his sentence is suspended or he is immediately given parole
3 he becomes a liberal martyr and a celebrity, he maybe even runs against Rand for office

If they let him get away with a not guilty plea they are up to something special like nickers suggested, if they are not then he and his lawyer are truly stupid and will lose the opportunity to plead guilty to a lesser charge and suffer total defeat in the trial.

I haven't read the indictment, assuming it's been published, but thus far I've heard nothing concrete about his motives.

And that's the whole ballgame.

The defendant is obviously going to be convicted/plead out.

The question is the motive and therefore the political implications, if any.

 

[Schifference]

Pleading not guilty. The neighbor went outside to offer Rand some Sweet Ice Tea. Rand was zoned out with his head phones and almost ran him over 3 times. Finally the neighbor had no choice but to tackle Rand for his safety and the safety of everyone in the community. Rand was driving erratically like he had been drinking or on some type of drugs.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Pleading not guilty. The neighbor went outside to offer Rand some Sweet Ice Tea. Rand was zoned out with his head phones and almost ran him over 3 times. Finally the neighbor had no choice but to tackle Rand for his safety and the safety of everyone in the community. Rand was driving erratically like he had been drinking or on some type of drugs.

Oh, yeah that's it.

The neighbor must be an off duty cop.

 

[phill4paul]

If you read the arrest warrant the affiant, that being the State Trooper, writes in it that "The defendant (Boucher) admits to going on Paul's property and tackling him."

So his lawyer is going to have a hard time getting him off.

 

[ChristianAnarchist]

13 pages and not one mention of how an unnamed witness saw a second assailant on Senator Paul......

I missed that. Is there a second attacker?

 

[nikcers]

I missed that. Is there a second attacker?

How dare you question the msm narrative

You don't have a right to any information. A neighbor had said that Randal managed to throw the douchbag off of him, indicating that he didn't "wake up in the hospital". Sounds like the guy was on top and wailing away. A police interviewed him at the scene and thought he had some bruises and cuts, but didn't know he had cracked ribs. A spokesman for Randal said he was embarrassed by the whole situation and didn't want to bring any extra attention to it. Seems pretty normal of a reaction to me. If you gotten beaten up by some guy attacking you unnoticed would you go around releasing camera footage of it or wanting to bring extra attention to it? Most men wouldn't.

 

[Valli6]

cop unable to arrest for higher than misdemeanor assault, w/o warrant?

The judge said Assault 4th Degree Domestic Violence.

A neighbor attacking a neighbor is not domestic violence in any context I've ever heard of. Domestic violence is reserved for spouse, family or someone you otherwise live with. Wouldn't the judge know this?
https://ag.ky.gov/family/victims/Pages/domestic.aspx

Seems to have something to do with what they could legally arrest Boucher for initially - when they were assuming the injuries were less serious and calling it a misdemeanor? Still weird, though...

(from wapo - Nov. 9)

“During the initial investigation, all indications pointed toward a minor injury to the Senator,” Trooper Jeremy Hodges, a spokesman for the Kentucky State Police, said in a text message, explaining why it took five hours to arrest Boucher. “He had not been checked by a doctor. We can’t arrest for a misdemeanor assault without a warrant in Kentucky unless it’s domestic violence-related or it happens in an officer’s presence.”

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[nikcers]

Seems to have something to do with what they could legally arrest Boucher for initially - when they were assuming the injuries were less serious and calling it a misdemeanor? Still weird, though...

(from wapo - Nov. 9)

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Yeah since the damage seemed internalized they have to have medical records detailing that they are hurt not just saying ribs are sore. You can't be arrested usually if you bloody someone's nose but breaking it is something else entirely and Rand refused EMT that would of normally found the broken ribs

 

[specsaregood]

and Rand refused EMT that would of normally found the broken ribs

if he is half as paranoid as most the people here, that might have been a good choice. instead of opting to get into a concealed ambulance with people he didn't know he probably opted to take himself to a hospital and doctor he knew personally and trusted. just saying...

 

[nikcers]

if he is half as paranoid as most the people here, that might have been a good choice. instead of opting to get into a concealed ambulance with people he didn't know he probably opted to take himself to a hospital and doctor he knew personally and trusted. just saying...

I hope he is half as paranoid as I am they have so many undetectable poisons and shit they could of stuck him with. I hope he gets checked out really good. I am really worried about the guy.

 

[angelatc]

Just for posterity's sake - is it a coincidence that this happened on the day that Antifa was calling for a day of open resistance?

 

[donnay]

"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." ~ Franklin D. Roosevelt

 

[kahless]

If you’re justifying the assault on Rand Paul because you don’t like his politics, you’re an a**hole - Rare.us
http://rare.us/rare-politics/rare-l...se-you-dont-like-his-politics-youre-an-ahole/

But the worst example of this had to be GQ’s Jack Moore.

“Rand Paul is an asshole neighbor,” Moore writes. “He bought a house in a neighborhood that has certain rules with regard to lawns, and he decided that he doesn’t need to follow those rules because of his belief in ‘property rights’ that don’t actually exist.”

“This is, at its core, the problem with libertarianism,” Moore insisted. “Libertarians don’t want to follow the rules that we as a society have agreed upon, because they feel those rules step on their freedoms.”

This is absurd.

Sen. Paul actually spends much of his time in the Senate insisting that all Americans follow the rules — particularly the national rulebook that is the Constitution of the United States — rules regularly broken by politicians in both parties including former presidents that Moore lavishes with praise.

What Moore is essentially saying is that Paul is an “asshole” because he reportedly grows pumpkins on his property and does other things the senator isn’t supposed to, an attitude Moore believes reflects the senator’s political philosophy.

What Jack Moore is saying is that Rand Paul kind of deserved to be assaulted for being a libertarian.

What an asshole thing to say.

 

[donnay]

Federal Charges To Be Filed Against Rand Paul’s Attacker

By Matt | Contributor | November 9, 2017 11:22AM

It’s amusing to see liberals still sticking by the talking point that President Donald Trump’s rhetoric is inciting violence, because it only seems to be inciting violence from liberals. It certainly wasn’t a crazed Trump-supporter who tried to gun down a Republican baseball practice back in June.

Among the Republicans who were at that fateful practice was Kentucky senator Rand Paul – who himself was attacked by a neighbor of his last week. Rene Boucher, a 59-year-old fellow doctor, was arrested for the assault and was held with a bail of $5,000.


It was initially reported as if it was a mere scuffle between Paul and a disgruntled neighbor over shrubbery, but his injuries are much worse than initially reported. Paul suffered six broken ribs, lung contusions, and injuries that could lead to other problems such as internal bleeding or pneumonia.

Now Fox News is reporting that the attack was likely politically motivated, and Boucher will face federal charges for his actions.

Read more: http://thepoliticalinsider.com/rand-paul-attack-neighbors/?utm_referrer=https://zen.yandex.com

 

[nikcers]

Just for posterity's sake - is it a coincidence that this happened on the day that Antifa was calling for a day of open resistance?

Yes. They tried to make this look like an accident, covered it up as something not political. They like to damage people and cause them physical harm that gives them flu like symptoms while also poisoning them so they get flu like symptoms and don't get any treatment for poison. The narrative they could use is that he was a victim of our healthcare system.

 

[Valli6]

Just for posterity's sake - is it a coincidence that this happened on the day that Antifa was calling for a day of open resistance?

Yeah, that occurred to me, too. Especially considering the manner of attack - sneaking up from behind and then (likely) kicking him in the ribs and face while he's down. We've seen that move in antifa attack videos often enough. Maybe Boucher attended some those meetings they brag about - where they teach each other that it's cool to sucker punch anyone you hate, and then break bones and crack their skull while they're on the ground.

 

[pao]

Yeah, that occurred to me, too. Especially considering the manner of attack - sneaking up from behind and then (likely) kicking him in the ribs and face while he's down. We've seen that move in antifa attack videos often enough. Maybe Boucher attended some those meetings they brag about - where they teach each other that it's cool to sucker punch anyone you hate, and then break bones and crack their skull while they're on the ground.

Guess he'll see how cool it is to spend 10-20 years in prison too.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Just for posterity's sake - is it a coincidence that this happened on the day that Antifa was calling for a day of open resistance?

Was it?

I thought it happened the next day.

Oh well, probably not important, one day is as good as another to the "Punch a Nazi" crowd, which means your suspicion is probably right.

Nazi, in Idiot AmeriKa, of course, now being defined as anybody to the "right" of Lenin.

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

I think lawyers usually have people plead not guilty so there's time to prepare the case, work out plea bargains, that type of stuff.

Ah right; don't know what I was thinking. Duh on me! :o