Rand Paul assaulted at Kentucky home (UPDATE: 6 broken ribs)

From Rand's facebook.
Rand Paul
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‪I appreciate all of the kind words and support from everyone. A quick medical update: final report indicates six broken ribs and new X-ray shows a pleural effusion‬.
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https://www.facebook.com/RandPaul/?...vE4qlVWZiFTruqQ-beMBWlSVZfIIN5solnUhY&fref=nf


What is pleural effusion?

Pleural effusion, sometimes referred to as “water on the lungs,” is the build-up of excess fluid between the layers of the pleura outside the lungs. The pleura are thin membranes that line the lungs and the inside of the chest cavity and act to lubricate and facilitate breathing. Normally, a small amount of fluid is present in the pleura.
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Symptoms of pleural effusion include:

Chest pain
Dry, nonproductive cough
Dyspnea (shortness of breath, or difficult, labored breathing)
Orthopnea (the inability to breathe easily unless the person is sitting up straight or standing erect)
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https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/pleural-effusion
 
If he ends up with pneumonia this could become potentially deadly. These charges need to be upgraded and there should be a restraining order that forces the neighbor to move.
 
kahless said:
Wow, not good. With each passing day it keeps getting worse. Whats next, two days from now we will find he is blind in one eye or missing finders or something.
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misconstrued said:
If he ends up with pneumonia this could become potentially deadly. These charges need to be upgraded and there should be a restraining order that forces the neighbor to move.
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Swordsmyth said:
Rand's neighbor of 17 years ambushed the good Senator while mowing his lawn and beat the stuffing out of him, cracking 5 ribs, knocking out 3 teeth, and possibly breaking his jaw.

More at: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-06/get-here-and-speculate-why-rand-paul-attacked

From the comments:



Fecund Stench Nov 6, 2017 10:23 PM
From the comments at Naked Capitalism, this morning:
"I had a colleague die of this, well after the breaking. He contracted pneumonia and was unable to cough to clear his lungs. Senator Paul might benefit from admission to an intensive care unit, under the care of a thoracic surgeon, and a team of respiratory therapists, and treated with an epidural block. It seems his assailant used his training as an anesthesiologist, and an osteopath, to attempt murder."
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2017/11/links-11617-2.html
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This was attempted murder and it is time the charges were upgraded to that.
 
Swordsmyth said:
This was attempted murder and it is time the charges were upgraded to that.
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When I said it keeps getting worse I had not even seen "knocking out 3 teeth, and possibly breaking his jaw", before I posted that. I wonder how long it will be before we see the pictures.
 
helmuth_hubener said:
Rand had a Wall problem.

The (white male) electorate are deeply cynical about the immigration issue. They've been burned repeatedly. Everybody, and I mean everybody, has lied to them. Repeatedly. The electorate weren't even really convinced that Trump would build the wall! Why do you think they shouted and chanted it at him every rally he held? But he apparently was able to persuade enough of them that there was at least some plausible chance he'd actually Build That Wall and deport the beaners that they came out and voted -- many for the first time in years.
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The wall is NOT what cost him the election. If it was, then why did Ron practically win Iowa just 3 years earlier? :rolleyes:
 
undergroundrr said:
Rand lost because he didn't properly address whatever one's pet issue happened to be. It had nothing to do with party machinery, the electoral landscape, or the media-industrial complex. :rolleyes:
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Let's make a clarification here.... Rand could not have beaten Trump. I think Trump's personality was unbeatable because he was willing to do and say things that Rand wasn't. Had Trump not been in the race I think Rand may have had a chance to win if he had run a good campaign (he didn't). His campaign was a poorly managed joke from day one. Trump was the reason Rand couldn't win, but Rand's messaging and poor campaign are the reasons he did way worse in Iowa than he should have.
 
I vaguely remembered this Jim Skaggs in past articles. I see he thought Rand was a lunatic when he first ran for Senate and criticized running for President and Senate at the same time. He has also brought up the home owners association stuff in the past.

It is funny that Breitbart had no trouble getting five of his neighbors on record, including multiple people on the homeowners board and the president, when the rest of the press only quoted a guy who passive aggessively shits on Rand. http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...assault-on-landscaping-dispute-are-fake-news/




Many of Paul’s neighbors, however, disagree with these reports:“As a friend and neighbor of the Paul family, I have been disturbed by the inaccuracies in numerous media accounts of the assault that occurred on Friday, November 3rd,” writes Travis Creed in an email to Breitbart News. “The stories of a ‘landscaping dispute’, or a dispute of any sort between Rand Paul and Rene Boucher are erroneous and unfounded. The reason for Mr. Boucher’s bizarre attack is known only to him. Statements to the contrary are irresponsible and unnecessary.”
This speculation regarding Boucher’s motive, Creed says “has led to an unfair characterization of the Pauls and their home.”
“The Pauls are and always have been great neighbors and friends. They take pride in their property and maintain it accordingly. Rand has enjoyed working on and maintaining his lawn for as long as I have known him. He was attacked on his property for no apparent reason and suffered serious injury. That is the only fact known at this time.”
“The Senator and his wife Kelley are great people who would never harm anyone in any way,” says Danny Renshaw, another neighbor who says he has lived in the same neighborhood as the Pauls for 17 years.
Renshaw is appalled by the attack. “This is so wrong, for anyone to be blindsided and attacked while mowing their yard. I cannot imagine being in my yard pulling weeds or mowing and being violently attacked by anyone, much less my neighbor?” he tells Breitbart News.
“I can’t believe he was out of jail on a 7,500 bail Saturday morning,” Renshaw adds. “However, this is not me that was attacked, this is one of 100 U.S. Senators of the United States. What kind of person does that?”
Expressing the same concern, Alicia Stivers writes, “As neighbors and close personal friends of the Pauls for almost a quarter of a century, I have never heard Senator Paul speak an unkind word about anyone, let alone become physically violent. Which makes it all the more shocking that a next-door neighbor of many years who has not so much as exchanged an email or spoken word with Rand in several years, would race downhill and pummel Rand from behind.”
“The Pauls own a lovely, wooded lakeside lot in our small subdivision,” Stivers continues. “In fact, the Pauls’ lot looks almost exactly the same today as it did 17 years ago when Dr. Boucher and his ex-wife chose their lot and built their house next door.”
“Between us, my husband and I have served four years on the neighborhood homeowners association board and we are unaware of any conflict or complaints from Dr. Boucher regarding the Pauls. Whatever the ‘reason’ for this attack on Rand, there is absolutely no justification for Dr. Boucher’s behavior,” she adds.
“I am wondering how the media can describe what took place as an altercation? Is it an altercation when no words are exchanged and one person is attacked from behind with no warning? I must check my dictionary.”
Shawn Parker has also served on Rivergreen’s homeowners association board for several years. Describing Mr. and Mrs. Paul as “very gracious & friendly”, she tells a similar account of the Pauls’ history with the board:
“My family has lived here for 6 years now,” she says. “In all the years that I have been on board we have never had any complaints at all [regarding the Pauls]… No complaints from other neighbors about the Pauls, nor [have] the Pauls had complaints against anyone else.”
“I pass by their house every day as my family lives diagonally across the street from them,” Parker adds. “When we see Rand out riding his bike or Kelley out walking in the beautiful neighborhood we live in they have always waved or even stopped to say hello. This is a wonderful family and an honor to have Kentucky’s state Senator living near us.”
“What I find amazing is the fact that he cuts his own grass,” writes neighbor Bob Warner. Bob and his wife Gayle have known the Pauls for twenty years. “Our neighborhood is fortunate that the Pauls live here,” he tells Breitbart News, “They are always engaging during their frequent walks through the neighborhood.”
“Our sons are friends with their sons and we have been on skiing trips as well as meet with them socially. As a friend, neighbor and Senator; Rand has been first class in every way.”
While the senator splits his time between Kentucky and Washington, DC, the Pauls appear to be still very much part of the neighborhood community. Their “Paul Family Football Game” is a neighborhood tradition, says Kevin and Diona Kelly.
“Rand and his family welcome any and all neighbors, whether you choose to be a player, a cheerleader or a self-appointed referee you are part of a team.”
“We commend Rand for balancing his demanding political role with his role as a neighbor and friend,” the Kellys continue. “Never too busy to stop while on his walks with Kelley or to wave as he rides his bicycle in the neighborhood or his mower on his yard. It is a pleasure to call him our neighbor and friend.”
In a statement provided to Breitbart News, Rina Malmquist, the current Rivergreen homeowners association president, says: “I have been friends and neighbors with the Pauls since we moved to Bowling Green in 2001. We have enjoyed being neighbors with the Pauls. Our children are great friends and we have made many happy memories with them.”
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Matt Collins said:
The wall is NOT what cost him the election. If it was, then why did Ron practically win Iowa just 3 years earlier? :rolleyes:
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Ron appeared stronger on immigration back then but after 2012 both started to significantly back off their earlier immigration positions and people took notice. I think it was strategic since that is the way they thought the wind was blowing, but they were wrong.

So you have:

- Appearing wishy washy and using wishy washy language on immigration early on was not going to fly this cycle. By the time Rand did get tough on immigration his campaign was effectively already over with little to no support.

- The strategic decision to work with GOP-E and release his Heritage think tank tax plan with the hidden business VAT fell on deaf ears. This kind of VAT was something Ron always spoke out against since Congress could keep increasing it and people would not understand why the price of goods were increasing due to the VAT was hidden in means of production. His support had already been at the tipping point by then but I believe this effectively sealed his fate exactly at a time he needed the momentum.

This was not the cycle to try and curry favor with the establishment on either the left or right.

- Going too far and for too long trying to gain favor with the far left therefore turning off the average Republican voter. Doing so while totally ignoring economic issues people were so desperate to hear about this cycle. Something Ron was able to champion in the past, particularly in 2008. This signaled to people he was only running an education campaign on these issues and not a serious candidate.
 
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Krugminator2 said:
I vaguely remembered this Jim Skaggs in past articles. I see he thought Rand was a lunatic when he first ran for Senate and criticized running for President and Senate at the same time. He has also brought up the home owners association stuff in the past.

It is funny that Breitbart had no trouble getting five of his neighbors on record, including multiple people on the homeowners board and the president, when the rest of the press only quoted a guy who passive aggessively shits on Rand. http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...assault-on-landscaping-dispute-are-fake-news/
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“The Pauls own a lovely, wooded lakeside lot in our small subdivision,” Stivers continues. “In fact, the Pauls’ lot looks almost exactly the same today as it did 17 years ago when Dr. Boucher and his ex-wife chose their lot and built their house next door.”
“Between us, my husband and I have served four years on the neighborhood homeowners association board and we are unaware of any conflict or complaints from Dr. Boucher regarding the Pauls. Whatever the ‘reason’ for this attack on Rand, there is absolutely no justification for Dr. Boucher’s behavior,” she adds.
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angelatc said:
Not when you buy a house in a neighborhood with a HOA like Rand did. You pretty much agree to be subjected to their rules when you purchase the home.
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In Rand's case the HOA gambit is a lie meant to disguise the fact that this was political terrorism.
 
According to people on the HOA, the Pauls were not a problem. No complaints in 17 years. Not one.
 
The communist media on this is atrocious.

They will be celebrating when the next asshole spools up and finishes Rand.

There is and never will be any working with or common ground with these people.

They are violent, dangerous, unhinged Bolsheviks.
 
There's nothing in the HOA agreement that Rand signed which says that, if your neighbor thinks that you might have violated a HOA rule, he can jump you and break 5 ribs.
 
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