Rand Paul assaulted at Kentucky home (UPDATE: 6 broken ribs)

[specsaregood]

There's really no reason for a victim to remain silent even with litigation. Their story (assuming it's true) cannot hurt the litigation if it does not change.

I suspect there's another reason the neighbor was so angry and Rand is not interested in that reason getting out. Sex may be involved (Rand is a human, just like the rest of us and I love him to death). Sex with who I don't know. Maybe it's not even Rand but one of his sons. I really don't know and of course it's all speculation but really, why the silence??

Or it is just like Randal and his wife have been saying all along and they DONT KNOW why this fruitcake attacked him. How can you expect him to say why if he has no idea? Who knows what kind of crazy rambling this guy was spouting off after randal managed to "throw him off" of him. And I doubt Randal was listening to intently to the guy that had just attacked him.

You guys are being manipulated by the shitfaced media, looking desperately to blame the victim.

Would you be asking a rape victim to explain why a rapist raped him/her? And then blame the victim when they cant give you an explanation of the rapists thoughts and motives?

You just alluded that Randal might have committed adultery or somebody else in his family at the least. You should be fucking ashamed of yourself.

 

[angelatc]

I'm thinking if I got hit as hard as he describes then I would probably lay there for a minute in pain and attempting to figure out where the pain came from? It's not like it would be easy to get up if you fell down an incline.

Just stop thinking.

 

[sparebulb]

Perhaps Rand is as clueless as we are as to why the guy assaulted him.

It seems like good strategy to not make public statements about it lest you say something that the guy's lawyer/media will use as justification.

People that want to think the worst of Rand seize upon little things like compost piles and trees like the trucker.

 

[William Tell]

The scumbag who beat up Rand has been divorced and alone for a very long time. Stop the insane speculations and innuendo that are 100% baseless please. Who needs the media when you guys are making up bullshit sex scandals? I hate to even talk about it but I'm seeing it everywhere. It. Is. Nonsense.


Shut up. Rand is our guy and he just got beat within an inch of his life and his own supporters are smearing him. Why he puts up with the liberty movement at all I'll never know we treat him like shit every chance we get.

 

[William Tell]

Jim Bullington, a former member of the city commission, knows both men. He said Sunday that Boucher is divorced and lives alone. Bullington described Boucher as a socialist.


Jim Bullington, a former member of the city commission, knows both men. He said Sunday that Boucher is divorced and lives alone. Bullington described Boucher as a socialist.


Jim Bullington, a former member of the city commission, knows both men. He said Sunday that Boucher is divorced and lives alone. Bullington described Boucher as a socialist.


Jim Bullington, a former member of the city commission, knows both men. He said Sunday that Boucher is divorced and lives alone. Bullington described Boucher as a socialist.


Jim Bullington, a former member of the city commission, knows both men. He said Sunday that Boucher is divorced and lives alone. Bullington described Boucher as a socialist.

 

[Origanalist]

There's really no reason for a victim to remain silent even with litigation. Their story (assuming it's true) cannot hurt the litigation if it does not change.

I suspect there's another reason the neighbor was so angry and Rand is not interested in that reason getting out. Sex may be involved (Rand is a human, just like the rest of us and I love him to death). Sex with who I don't know. Maybe it's not even Rand but one of his sons. I really don't know and of course it's all speculation but really, why the silence??

Wow, are you projecting? Just speculating...when did you stop cheating on your wife?

 

[Krugminator2]

This is my first post, but what is Rand Paul's reasoning for not explaining exactly what happened after this attack? What does he got to hide? He was supposedly the one that was the victim and it clearly appears that this is the case with the injury he sustained. Just tell us what the neighbor said.

We already know what the neighbor said. He told Rand the trees are lowering his property value and he is trying sell his house. That's what Rand's close friend and neighbor who was first to the scene said.

My initial thought is Rand was advised not to speak about the case. The defense made up a different story about grass clippings and lawn height which would contradict what the guy told Rand. It is very strange that it has been a month and no federal or state charges have been filed. He fed Fox News the story about the US Attorney telling him to expect to two more charges that would carry 5-10 years each. He has also been pushing the idea this wasn't a lawn dispute. Rand has been very evasive. If these are the only charges it makes Rand look pretty bad.

It looks like the next court date is December 19th. I would think there would be some clarification by then.

 

[Ender]

The scumbag who beat up Rand has been divorced and alone for a very long time. Stop the insane speculations and innuendo that are 100% baseless please. Who needs the media when you guys are making up bull$#@! sex scandals? I hate to even talk about it but I'm seeing it everywhere. It. Is. Nonsense.


Shut up. Rand is our guy and he just got beat within an inch of his life and his own supporters are smearing him. Why he puts up with the liberty movement at all I'll never know we treat him like $#@! every chance we get.

^^THIS^^

Rand is playing it smart & the ridiculous smears from supporters shows exactly what the MSM x 1000 will do with any word that comes from his mouth.

 

[Ender]

The first thing an attorney tells a client is to keep quiet and let them handle any further communication about a case.

Much the same as saying anything to a police, your words can be taken out of context, twisted, or just plain fabricated should you choose to talk to the wrong person about the issue.

You're own word can definitely be used against you.

Exactly.

 

[Krugminator2]

There's really no reason for a victim to remain silent even with litigation. Their story (assuming it's true) cannot hurt the litigation if it does not change.

I suspect there's another reason the neighbor was so angry and Rand is not interested in that reason getting out. Sex may be involved (Rand is a human, just like the rest of us and I love him to death). Sex with who I don't know. Maybe it's not even Rand but one of his sons. I really don't know and of course it's all speculation but really, why the silence??

"When I spoke with Boucher's ex-wife, she batted away a number of theories, including the idea that the dispute related to Paul's office. "It's not politics. It's not money. It's not women or sex or infidelity," she said. "So pick what it is.""

https://www.gq.com/story/inside-rand-pauls-neighborhood-fight

That seems pretty unlikely given that the kids lived with Boucher's ex-wife and she would be in the best position to know.

It is most likely the guy has some sort mental problem and is frustrated with his life and snapped.

 

[nikcers]

"When I spoke with Boucher's ex-wife, she batted away a number of theories, including the idea that the dispute related to Paul's office. "It's not politics. It's not money. It's not women or sex or infidelity," she said. "So pick what it is.""

https://www.gq.com/story/inside-rand-pauls-neighborhood-fight

That seems pretty unlikely given that the kids lived with Boucher's ex-wife and she would be in the best position to know.

It is most likely the guy has some sort mental problem and is frustrated with his life and snapped.

She doesn't say what it is but says what it isn't politics/money? She immediately says its not about money when supposedly the guy is mad because he can't sell his house? Either she is alluding that he was coerced into doing it or she wanted everyone to speculate and she is part of the fake news.

 

[Valli6]

stop blindly accepting the "landscaping" lie

This is my first post, but what is Rand Paul's reasoning for not explaining exactly what happened after this attack? What does he got to hide? He was supposedly the one that was the victim and it clearly appears that this is the case with the injury he sustained. Just tell us what the neighbor said. They must have had some sort of conversation laying in the grass. These are two old men rolling down a hill together! Does he run him off after he is laying there with his ribs broken or does the neighbor just hit him and take off? The whole situation is just weird and Rand Paul keeps it going without fully explaining.

First of all, you’re going along with the idea that this has anything to do with trees, leaves or landscaping. Rand has repeatedly stated that this is false. This has been supported by all his other neighbors, as well as the fact that there has never been any complaint to the home owners association regarding the Pauls. Boucher’s attempt at excusing his bad behavior - after the fact - is irrelevant.

The only people who have pushed this landscaping theory are the lawyer of the guilty man and an old biddy named Jim Skaggs. Note that Jim Skaggs is a former chairman of that county’s Republican party. Considering the many anti-libertarian, anti-Rand claims Skaggs has made throughout his tale - it’s pretty obvious that he and Rand hold opposing political views, despite Skaggs’ considering himself a Republican.

Further, Rand and his trees were there before Boucher moved in. No reason for Rand to change anything.

It seems pretty plain to me, that we will see a hearing or trial sometime in the future, so it would be foolish for Rand to publicly state his personal view of how or why the attack occurred. There are a number of ways it could be used to benefit the attacker - starting with unfairly swaying public opinion towards him.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

We already know what the neighbor said. He told Rand the trees are lowering his property value and he is trying sell his house. That's what Rand's close friend and neighbor who was first to the scene said.

My initial thought is Rand was advised not to speak about the case. The defense made up a different story about grass clippings and lawn height which would contradict what the guy told Rand. It is very strange that it has been a month and no federal or state charges have been filed. He fed Fox News the story about the US Attorney telling him to expect to two more charges that would carry 5-10 years each. He has also been pushing the idea this wasn't a lawn dispute. Rand has been very evasive. If these are the only charges it makes Rand look pretty bad.

It looks like the next court date is December 19th. I would think there would be some clarification by then.

The prosecutors from local to State AG are partisan Democrat statists. This is a huge problem. The vast majority of the government is populated by statists. They derive their living from government. They want the government to spend more on them. They want more power.

This is mirrored at the Federal level with all of the biased actions of the government. Lois Lerner using the IRS against anyone who wants smaller government. The hysteria around the last election when their precious Hillary lost. The government itself, from bottom to top, is primarily left-wing socialist, particularly in the area of government spending, and they will use their power to defeat or discredit anyone they feel threatens their gravy train.

 

[Swordsmyth]

There's really no reason for a victim to remain silent even with litigation. Their story (assuming it's true) cannot hurt the litigation if it does not change.

I suspect there's another reason the neighbor was so angry and Rand is not interested in that reason getting out. Sex may be involved (Rand is a human, just like the rest of us and I love him to death). Sex with who I don't know. Maybe it's not even Rand but one of his sons. I really don't know and of course it's all speculation but really, why the silence??

 

[nikcers]

 

[Jan2017]

Anti-GOP sentiment to the point of a hatred-motivated crime against a public servant / United States Senator (?)

The baseball practice Capitol police shooting demonstrated that the anti-GOP crowd is getting encouraged to bizarro actions.
Since the attack involves a US Senator as a victim without a security force present, and there is a hate motive possibility -
this really might be federal to some prosecutors.

If this was a situation where Capitol Police had been around, what would they have to do to defend the Senator . . .
fire on the potential assailant as he's running toward Rand or sometin' (?)

 

[eleganz]

This is my first post, but what is Rand Paul's reasoning for not explaining exactly what happened after this attack? What does he got to hide? He was supposedly the one that was the victim and it clearly appears that this is the case with the injury he sustained. Just tell us what the neighbor said. They must have had some sort of conversation laying in the grass. These are two old men rolling down a hill together! Does he run him off after he is laying there with his ribs broken or does the neighbor just hit him and take off? The whole situation is just weird and Rand Paul keeps it going without fully explaining.

Rand is obviously taking the high road. Not going into details makes him seem the bigger man and far above the situation. Talking about the drama, getting into details will make him seem petty and unwilling to let go. The less he talks about the details, the better for him.

Go take a PR class.

 

[Created4]

This is my first post, but what is Rand Paul's reasoning for not explaining exactly what happened after this attack? What does he got to hide? He was supposedly the one that was the victim and it clearly appears that this is the case with the injury he sustained. Just tell us what the neighbor said. They must have had some sort of conversation laying in the grass. These are two old men rolling down a hill together! Does he run him off after he is laying there with his ribs broken or does the neighbor just hit him and take off? The whole situation is just weird and Rand Paul keeps it going without fully explaining.

They are heading to litigation. Watch the full interview just posted this morning by nikcers. The attacker did say something after the attack, it was apparently nothing to do with landscapping, and Rand called it "criminal."

So with pending litigation, his attorney has obviously told him to say nothing about the attacker's motives to the press, as that will come out in discovery as they proceed to trial.

 

[nikcers]

Anti-GOP sentiment to the point of a hatred-motivated crime against a public servant / United States Senator (?)

The baseball practice Capitol police shooting demonstrated that the anti-GOP crowd is getting encouraged to bizarro actions.
Since the attack involves a US Senator as a victim without a security force present, and there is a hate motive possibility -
this really might be federal to some prosecutors.

If this was a situation where Capitol Police had been around, what would they have to do to defend the Senator . . .
fire on the potential assailant as he's running toward Rand or sometin' (?)

The solution is a government that doesn't violate the second amendment. You won't get leftists shooting at people who won't vote for gun control laws if gun control is something that the government can't do. The guy that attacked Rand Paul also needs to pay for his crime. If people think there is no rule of law then people will take the law into their own hands.

 

[Valli6]

Possible reason charges have not been increased yet...

Heard an interview on TV with Judge Napolitano, maybe 2 weeks ago. He said something like - now that the feds have stepped in to investigate, the state has to keep their hands off until the federal investigation is completed. (I’ve been unable to find online video of this particular interview.)

This leads me to believe the federal investigation is still going on, and the state prosecutor is powerless to change the charges till the feds are done. Perhaps this is the norm under these circumstances? Maybe there's more going on with Boucher, than we think.