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he can't run for both, at least in kentucky.
Ron could run for both house and president because texas law allowed it.

his senate term won't coincide with another presidential election until 2028, which means he could run for president in 2020 or 2024 without having to worry about it.
 
I'm all about Rand 2016 - but if he doesn't have a realistic chance at winning maybe it would be best for him to wait? How shitty would it be for him to run and not win any state, and lose his Senate seat? He's building a lot of political capital and it would suck to blow it on an unwinnable race. I guess I'm just being a bit of a contrarian.

He won't lose his Senate seat. Remember that Rand is supporting McConnell's reelection bid. This pretty much ensures that the KY GOP will not endorse a primary challenger to Rand's seat. KY Senate primaries are in May I believe. So Rand can test out the presidential waters and if he cannot make any headway he has plenty of time to defend his Senate seat.

Realistically, if Rand can't get a "ticket out of Iowa" there is little reason for him to continue past SC. He can drop out, and focus on his Senate seat and the seats of others.
 
so who for VP...

Tough call. I suppose a lot of it depends on which region of the country, and which wing of the party he needs to "sure up". Amash may be a good regional choice, because it could help him in the rust belt states, but Amash is still a young Congressman and might not have the name recognition needed by that time. Rand has worked closely with Pat Toomey on many issues, so that could help him with PA and bring in even more of the "Club For Growth" types. John Kasich could help him in OH and bring in more "mainstream" GOPers. Or he could very well not worry about the regional aspect and bring in his close ally DeMint. In the end, if he does get to that point, the choice will be as much strategical as it will be philosophical. I think those that might be hoping for a "libertarian dream team" though might wind up being disappointed.
 
he can't run for both, at least in kentucky.
Ron could run for both house and president because texas law allowed it.

I just saw this post. Does the law state that he cannot run for both if he is on the KY ballot, or does it apply to being on the ballot in other states. The reason I ask is that if the primary calendar is similar, KY's primary would not be until May. Rand would know by early February, whether or not he was in contention for the presidential nomination.
 
Type in Randpaulforums.com


It leads you here to Ronpaulforums :)

Haha, it's been like that for a while now, I think.

This sub forum is also the first entry that shows up in google results when you type in any combination of the words "Rand Paul" and "Forum". Same in Yahoo.
 
Josh Josh josh...., I love you.

It has been like that since 2010. there was a lot of work done in 2010 to raise Rand's internet profile, as well, I remember people putting his web page in their signatures because this site was so much higher on google search to raise that site as well. threads in this forum are likely to be the first people see, most times, in google searches, just as it is with Ron, which is one reason why there is a rule that candidates deserve support in their own forums, by and large.
 
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He won't lose his Senate seat. Remember that Rand is supporting McConnell's reelection bid. This pretty much ensures that the KY GOP will not endorse a primary challenger to Rand's seat. KY Senate primaries are in May I believe. So Rand can test out the presidential waters and if he cannot make any headway he has plenty of time to defend his Senate seat.

Realistically, if Rand can't get a "ticket out of Iowa" there is little reason for him to continue past SC. He can drop out, and focus on his Senate seat and the seats of others.

This. If 2016 doesn't pan out, he can pull out and take that groundwork laid to try again in 2020, hopefully increasing his support in the process--just as Ron did from 2008 to 2012. More name recognition and political capital for Rand should also help any like minded candidates running down ticket between now and then...
 
I told people that they needed to let his endorsement play out and get off his case. I've also been critical of that endorsement because I thought it was completely unnecessary.
Actually it was necessary. He made a promise during his Senate campaign and he had to keep that promise. Not to mention, he now can't be accused of being the reason Obama got reelected.
 
Beware Santorum

Oh no doubt in my mind he will run. He has a ground game in place for Iowa already. It would be sort of foolish to squander that. Rand will need heavy focus on taking a top three in IA and then winning NH and SC. Rubio if he runs will take FL, and then it's a footrace from there on out.
 
This. If 2016 doesn't pan out, he can pull out and take that groundwork laid to try again in 2020, hopefully increasing his support in the process--just as Ron did from 2008 to 2012. More name recognition and political capital for Rand should also help any like minded candidates running down ticket between now and then...

Right I do not think we will see a repeat of the 08/12 strategy at all. Rand will run a much more traditional campaign, and will drop out if he doesn't win early on.
 
Rand Paul / Jim Demint
Rand Paul / Tom Davis
Rand Paul / Judge Nap


of those I think Paul / Demint has the most "electability"
 
Paul/Cruz would be a pretty dynamite ticket.
 
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