Rand at 4% in Fox News Poll

RabbitMan: It will also prove that political pundits have outlived their usefulness and are way past their sell-by date.
 
RabbitMan: It will also prove that political pundits have outlived their usefulness and are way past their sell-by date.

The only thing that would rival the sweetness of seeing both the Bush and Clinton dynasties go down in flames would be seeing the whole pundit class disappear from sight. That would be a glorious occasion.
 
The only thing that would rival the sweetness of seeing both the Bush and Clinton dynasties go down in flames would be seeing the whole pundit class disappear from sight. That would be a glorious occasion.

Outside of something completely insane or awesome happening, like Paul or a Moderate winning the GOP nom, Hillary will slog through, win her party's nomination and destroy the Republican candidate. Absolutely destroy.

Bernie is going to put up quite a fight, but he is running an education/purification campaign on a national stage--he doesn't really want to become President.

Anything the Right puts up that is ordinary and/or to the Right of Hillary on every issue will be crushed by the overwhelming force of the Diverse Center-Left majority population of the USA. The RNC has been saying it for 3 years now, they can't win on a national stage unless they do SOMETHING different, and Marco Rubio and Ben Carson, whilst polling well right now due to being relatively unknown, are utterly unelectable when the issues come to the fore.

Being a Social Conservative will lose.
Being a Military Hawk will lose.
At least if nothing pulls them back to the center.

A Kasich, Bush or Rand is the GOP's only hope and it's looking pretty rough going for those three as it is.

And still I will give $75 to Rand tomorrow, because I believe in the Liberty Movement! Go team!
 
Yeah I'm surprised(and pleased) with Bush failing so badly too.

McCain was "dead in the water" in 2007 too. The media giveth and taketh away....and can then giveth back. Don't for a second think that Bush is a goner just yet.
 
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Fiorina.. lol such failure after being given so much talking time and a manufacture surge.

She will "take her time" next debate too. None one will challenge her, as she is the only woman on the stage.

The news is Trump, Fiorina, Christie and Kasich broke with the other candidates in negotiations about the debates. Trump probably because we want to negotiate on his own. The others, not a coincidence that these are the loudmouths that always grab the word during the debates. The other campaigns were probably figuring out a fair alotment of talking time, and then these 3 broke becuase they want to be able to talk whenever and how much they want.
 
Yeah I'm surprised(and pleased) with Bush failing so badly too.

Are you really surprised that someone named Bush couldn't gain popular acceptance in a crowded field? He did nothing to differentiate himself from his brother. Had he campaigned aggressively against Dubya, Obama, and Hillary and positioned himself as a real outsider willing to even castigate his brother for the mistakes made under his watch, he would have won easily. But he didn't do that. It is the only way he could have won, and he refused to do it. To me, his abject failure makes total sense.
 
If Fox is considering the last 4 polls from RCP valid then Huck and Christie both missed the cut while we made it by the skin on our teeth. (4+2+2+2/4=2.5)
 
If Fatboy Grim is off the stage I'm very happy.Now Paul just has to get fleeter footed to foil any attempt they make to set Cruz up to steal his thunder.
 
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Fatboy Grim

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More like 36%. But don't worry, whatever he may be lacking in poll numbers he'll make up for in stealth delegates.

I haven't heard nearly as much about that as I did in Ron's campaign. What's the word on that?
 
About Bush...

McCain was "dead in the water" in 2007 too. The media giveth and taketh away....and can then giveth back. Don't for a second think that Bush is a goner just yet.

But Bush's campaign is panicking.

Are you really surprised that someone named Bush couldn't gain popular acceptance in a crowded field? He did nothing to differentiate himself from his brother. Had he campaigned aggressively against Dubya, Obama, and Hillary and positioned himself as a real outsider willing to even castigate his brother for the mistakes made under his watch, he would have won easily. But he didn't do that. It is the only way he could have won, and he refused to do it. To me, his abject failure makes total sense.

He has one problem: his last name.
 
Here's the important question: Will Rand actually get any more speaking time with two less people on stage?
 
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