Ranchers vs BLM Oregon this time

[youngbuck]

Professor Doom
Oregon: Harney County the secret they don't want you to know

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Wow, those facebook posts by Uranium One strongly suggest an ulterior motive!

 

[dannno]

Wow, those facebook posts by Uranium One strongly suggest an ulterior motive!

Are you talking about that video or the one that was posted below it? Or are they related? I saw the one on the bottom a while ago.. I wouldn't be surprised if they have gotten some gold off of their property, but I don't think these ranchers are lifting vast amounts gold out of the ground.. They are barely staying afloat after making a half a payment on a $400k court fee or something, and apparently they may lose the ranch if they end up serving their term in jail. I think they just want to be justly compensated for the land they own and be able to sell it on their own accord or simply continue to ranch. I think the ulterior motive applies strongly to the government, considering the uranium, diamonds and gold.

Personally, I'd rather see the gold go to the Hammond's than the government anyway.

 

[youngbuck]

Are you talking about that video or the one that was posted below it? Or are they related? I saw the one on the bottom a while ago.. I wouldn't be surprised if they have gotten some gold off of their property, but I don't think these ranchers are lifting vast amounts gold out of the ground.. They are barely staying afloat after making a half a payment on a $400k court fee or something, and apparently they may lose the ranch if they end up serving their term in jail. I think they just want to be justly compensated for the land they own and be able to sell it on their own accord or simply continue to ranch. I think the ulterior motive applies strongly to the government, considering the uranium, diamonds and gold.

Personally, I'd rather see the gold go to the Hammond's than the government anyway.

Yeah, that video I quoted. The facebook posts start at about 5:00. And at the end of the video, he credits the author of the second vid for some of his information.

 

[phill4paul]

Interesting read....

"You can't tell me that geese, wild birds, cows, lizards, snakes have priority over a taxpaying American citizen."

The group's anger was a slow burn.

But after decades of being ignored by federal authorities, its members decided to take a very public stand against what they saw as an unjust land grab by the U.S. government.

Without warning, they started an occupation of a sprawling national wildlife refuge.

The year: 1979.

http://www.oregonlive.com/history/2016/01/oregon_standoff_feds_forcibly.html#incart_river_home

 

[phill4paul]

Will the Occupation of Malhuer State Park be seen upon the pages of the National Park System website?

...the occupation gave birth to a political movement which continues to today.

http://www.nps.gov/alca/learn/historyculture/we-hold-the-rock.htm

 

[youngbuck]

I heard, but have not had time to research and confirm, that a militiaman was arrested.

 

[Origanalist]

Just wanted to say you are doing an excellent job of keeping this thread updated goldeneqyity.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to goldenequity again.

Covered

 

[Origanalist]

Don't know if this has been presented or not so...

Letter to U.S. Military and Federal LEOs From 1st Sgt. Mack: “Do not become the very enemy that you swore to defend this nation against” in OR

30 0 0 2 by Stewart Rhodes , January 15, 2016

(The below letter comes from an old American Army Airborne warrior, 1st Sgt. Mack (just “1st Sgt.” to us), who is very well respected by all here at Oath Keepers. I asked him to write what he would want to say to active duty military and current serving federal LEOs (many of whom are military veterans) in regards to possible orders to “drop the hammer” on Ammon Bundy and his followers at the occupation of the Malheur Wildlife Refuge in Oregon. This is what he wrote – Stewart Rhodes):

We would implore you, no we would beseech you, not to step over a line that there is no coming back across. You must not allow yourselves to disregard your own moral values.

There is no job, no amount of money, no position that is worth risking the loss of one American citizens life if you choose to violate your oaths.

The American people are NOT terrorists, they are NOT insurgents, they are NOT the enemies from a foreign land, they are citizens, and as citizens they are GUARANTEED rights by the Constitution that you swore to uphold and defend. Yes, they make mistakes, they make foolish decisions, they become frustrated and often feel they have lost their voice.

That does NOT make them enemies. You, as military personnel and government employees have a Sworn Duty to uphold their rights and protect them. And you have the ability to restore their voices, to ensure that they are heard. You do not have the right, legal or otherwise, to silence them. They have the right to freedom, liberty, and LIFE.

So again I ask that you stop and consider every consequence of any action that you may take going forward from this point.

more...https://www.oathkeepers.org/letter-to-u-s-military-from-1st-sgt-mack/

 

[AngryCanadian]

Oregon militia standoff: man arrested driving stolen government vehicle

More Updates.
Apparently Kenneth Medenbach stole a government vehicle.

 

[JK/SEA]

Oregon militia standoff: man arrested driving stolen government vehicle

More Updates.
Apparently Kenneth Medenbach stole a government vehicle.

so the FEDS hired this guy to be an agent provacateur. This 'miltiaman' has priors, therefore makes an excellent candidate for a 'deal' to perhaps make his 'priors' go away....just a thought. I could be wrong. Kenneth could actually be a moron.

meh...stole a white truck with gubermint logos on the side...yeah, and drives into a safeway...i smell a rat.

 

[goldenequity]

Some 'Inside Malheur' Updates:
Hearts and Minds inside 'ground zero' Friday/Sat. morning



Take Down FBI Surveillance Equipment / Recommissioning/Renaming Fed Assets



January 15 News Presser Part 1 & 2 LaVoy Finicum

 

[kcchiefs6465]

Double post

 

[kcchiefs6465]

so the FEDS hired this guy to be an agent provacateur. This 'miltiaman' has priors, therefore makes an excellent candidate for a 'deal' to perhaps make his 'priors' go away....just a thought. I could be wrong. Kenneth could actually be a moron.

meh...stole a white truck with gubermint logos on the side...yeah, and drives into a safeway...i smell a rat.

From article:

It is unclear how central a figure Medenbach was to the occupation at the refuge, or how long he had been staying there. However, his commitment to the extreme ideology of rightwing constitutionalists is not in doubt.

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[Schifference]

I think in these situations time is our enemy. We had like 20 pages in a couple of days then very few posts. Look at the Waco Biker incident. Hardly a peep anymore. Maybe the government has learned to keep things quiet for a period of time to let the media direct their resources elsewhere.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Oregon militia standoff: man arrested driving stolen government vehicle

More Updates.
Apparently Kenneth Medenbach stole a government vehicle.

From article:

It is unclear how central a figure Medenbach was to the occupation at the refuge, or how long he had been staying there. However, his commitment to the extreme ideology of rightwing constitutionalists is not in doubt.

Whenever a "journalist" ventures away from reciting externally verifiable facts and starts editorializing about how some person's internal mental states are "not in doubt," then you might have a reason to start doubting ...

Also from the article:

Medenbach spoke with The Guardian on the 2nd of January at the public rally in support of the Hammonds, held in the same Safeway car park where he was arrested. When asked why he was attending, he offered similar constitutional theories as those offered by other militia members. He claimed to have been involved in this stand-off as a member of the Oath Keepers militia.

My understanding is that the Oath Keepers have disavowed any involvement in "this stand-off."

If that is so, then why might Medenbach be talking out of place like this?

And why might a "journalist" fail to take or make note of it?

A couple of other gems:

[Medenbach] was extensively profiled in the 1999 book Terrorists Among Us: The Militia Threat, by retired Indiana police captain Robert L Snow. At the time, Snow wrote, Medenbach was building his own home on five acres of land in Crescent, Oregon, out of “discarded refrigerators, water heaters, and other such material.” Medenbach, according to Snow, subscribed to the legal theory that state bar associations are unconstitutional, and so courts have no authority over him.

LMAO. "Ermagerd!! Houses built out of old 'frigerators and water heaters! Claims of the unconstitutionality of bar associations! It's terrism!!" ...

Harney County judge Steve Grasty said he was grateful that officials have made an arrest. “At some point, criminal actions become so blatant that they just can’t be ignored,” he said. “At some point, criminal actions become so blatant that they just can’t be ignored.”

I guess it was so important that it had to be said twice ...

 

[goldenequity]

Too bad there's no 'venue' for a weekend meeting of the Committee of Safety.
I wonder if KrisAnne Hall will 'stay' or... if she even flew in?? idk.

Here's a good dialog just published yesterday: Relevant issues discussed @ 13:00



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I think in these situations time is our enemy. We had like 20 pages in a couple of days then very few posts. Look at the Waco Biker incident. Hardly a peep anymore. Maybe the government has learned to keep things quiet for a period of time to let the media direct their resources elsewhere.

That's tough to say... there's another 'clock' ticking in the background of all this..
which would be other legislators/counties showing solidarity with an anti-Fed stance.
It truly is a 'now or never' thing... in which case 'time' is your 'ally'... in fact it's Bundy's only hope. (imo)
If time 'runs out'... they accomplished nothing.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

Whenever a "journalist" ventures away from reciting externally verifiable facts and starts editorializing about how some person's internal mental states are "not in doubt," then you might have a reason to start doubting ...

Also from the article:


My understanding is that the Oath Keepers have disavowed any involvement in "this stand-off."

If that is so, then why might Medenbach be talking out of place like this?

And why might a "journalist" fail to take or make note of it?

A couple of other gems:



LMAO. "Ermagerd!! Houses built out of old 'frigerators and water heaters! Claims of the unconstitutionality of bar associations! It's terrism!!" ...



I guess it was so important that it had to be said twice ...

Excellent analysis.

My point of posting, of course, was to illustrate that if you believe that the government should abide by the Constitution, which they themselves took an oath to uphold and which they themselves tout as the authority under which they operate, then you are an extremist in the eyes of shoddy, so-called journalists.

If that is the extremist view, that is, that the government operates within the confines of the document it itself holds up and swears an oath to, then perhaps they should get rid of their faggy rituals and ceremonial theatrics and openly declare themselves as what they are--robbers, murderers, and thieves.

 

[goldenequity]

AUCTION! (Saturday Nite Fun )

The Patriots (having TOO much fun in the Burns motel) have decided to hold an auction via Paypal tomorrow
for the top five bidders to receive an autographed 'Heat Seeking Moisture Missile' of their choice.
What better way to 'mock the mockers' who sent them? Turn them into cash...
all proceeds to generate food supplies to the new Harney County Resource Center.

 

[RonPaulIsGreat]

These guys are kinda of goofy. They stole the electric companies cameras used to monitor the electrical substation, and act like it was "guberment" surveillance. Nope it was the power company watching their property to protect against vandals and or equipment failure.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

These guys are kinda of goofy. They stole the electric companies cameras used to monitor the electrical substation, and act like it was "guberment" surveillance. Nope it was the power company watching their property to protect against vandals and or equipment failure.

If that is what they were, and I'll concede that point for argument's sake, I am sure that no government agency would consider using them for collecting evidence and/or spying.

It's not as if they openly admit to wanting access to thousands of private cameras for the purposes of investigation or anything. Or that they do not already commandeer as much.