Ranchers vs BLM Oregon this time

[Weston White]

They needed an invitation?

Actually, yes this is a long realized historical fact:

Why Can't Vampires Enter A House Without Permission?

Best Answer: because there is believed to be a "Spiritual" or "Personal Power" oriented natural magic(occurs spontaneously) that protects what is within the threshold, it is a life sustaining force and the dead or evil are antagonistic to it. And the Vampire cannot cross a Threshold of a home. the people living there and the natural magic act as a circuit to make a force field-kind of, if the residence is abandoned or very rarely used the "Threshold" is not very strong, same with public places if the intimate personal connection is not there, then the non living or preternatural are not repulsed. this often applies to magic practitioners of various types as well(not illusionists or slight of hand artists)

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090922001158AAkDt5m

 

[Mach]

BREAKING: Harney County Fire Chief Resigns. FBI Caught Posing As Militia At Local Armory



BUSTED! FBI Caught recconing the Armory @ 8:30

This is good news... though it might have been better had he stayed and reported the tactics & betrayals in real time.

(supposedly) Ammon Bundy was invited to speak with Hannity.
(careful Ammon...)

The Feds are not for the United States, that's for sure, this gets down to a local community leader making a stand, LITERALLY.

Good stuff, he sees undercover FBI snooping around and confronts them and will not stick his head in the sand.

 

[goldenequity]

Wednesday/Jan. 13 - A Review: Discovered Documents @ the Refuge show illegalities & collusion/conspiracy using 'permit' renewals
to deny/withhold/re-direct grazing rights to insiders/bootlickers vs rightful ranchers to further impoverish them, the County
and empower BLM takeover.

Bundy is recording the documents into public records; initiating legal filings calling for a Citizen Grand Jury review of the charges;
and will be publicly speaking/updating the Committee of Safety on Friday night. Judge Grasti in panic/irrational mode.

 

[goldenequity]

This fire reportedly killed more than 80 head of cattle and was set by the BLM in July
less than two weeks from the day the Hammonds received sentence
for setting their fire in Fall/Winter 2006.

You DON'T set prescribed BURNS in the middle of SUMMER.
It is evidence of BLM as ARSONISTS to impoverish and pressure the surrounding Ranches by burning their feed.
It put ranchers trying to save their cattle in extreme danger, injured other cattle,
burnt homes and structures, burnt fences and power poles and threatened the town of Frenchglen.

 

[goldenequity]

January 13 - DAHBOO777

Clearing the Air...
The Idaho III Percenters are now on the ground... but:
Why were the Oregon militia ordered to 'stand down' by their Leader?
He is now accused of 'stealing valor' by misrepresenting his past military service record.
Did he 'sell out'? Has he lied? Daboo777 has invited him to speak this Friday night to 'clear the air'.

 

[goldenequity]

besides DAHBOO777...

We have another outspoken follower of events
Professor Doom
(both are good. Neither is insitu/onsite. Sometimes they disagree.)

 

[goldenequity]

It's not 'their' land



Not withstanding the Native claims, Woodie Guthrie and 'all' the other competing historical issues...
one thing I know:
It's not 'their' land.
Article 1 Section 8 Clause 17.
Put 'em back in their cage.

 

[69360]

Dude you have been watching way too much mainstream media..

Took advantage? What exactly do you think they are getting out of this? One of my friends who is an MSM dittohead said they were acting out of selfishness.. that makes NO sense whatsoever, they are there helping the Hammond family as well as the surrounding community. They aren't doing ANYTHING to help themselves, this is an act of selfLESSness.. If SOME people in their community are too retarded to understand that they are there to help, or that the government has become tyrannical and needs to be stopped, then who cares about them? The fact is that a much larger segment of the community supports them than the media is letting on and a lot of that information is contained in this thread.

I don't even have cable and we only get one TV station out here.

Bundy and co went to Oregon and took over that building after the were told not too by the Oregon family. They imposed their issue on people who didn't want it.

Seem familiar? Kind of the same as the birthers, thruthers and conspiracy theorists did to Ron and continue to do to Rand. I'm sure they all will get butthurt and neg rep me. I don't care.

 

[TheTexan]

They needed an invitation?

Yes, and the proper permits, which they also didn't have

 

[JK/SEA]

I don't even have cable and we only get one TV station out here.

Bundy and co went to Oregon and took over that building after the were told not too by the Oregon family. They imposed their issue on people who didn't want it.

Seem familiar? Kind of the same as the birthers, thruthers and conspiracy theorists did to Ron and continue to do to Rand. I'm sure they all will get butthurt and neg rep me. I don't care.

well Bosco, that one station you 'listen' to is full of lies. Anything else?

 

[The Gold Standard]

I don't even have cable and we only get one TV station out here.

Bundy and co went to Oregon and took over that building after the were told not too by the Oregon family. They imposed their issue on people who didn't want it.

Seem familiar? Kind of the same as the birthers, thruthers and conspiracy theorists did to Ron and continue to do to Rand. I'm sure they all will get butthurt and neg rep me. I don't care.

Who are they imposing anything on, other than the federal workers that can't occupy the refuge every day?

 

[kcchiefs6465]

I don't even have cable and we only get one TV station out here.

Bundy and co went to Oregon and took over that building after the were told not too by the Oregon family. They imposed their issue on people who didn't want it.

Seem familiar? Kind of the same as the birthers, thruthers and conspiracy theorists did to Ron and continue to do to Rand. I'm sure they all will get butthurt and neg rep me. I don't care.

The Hammonds do not own that building and it has been used to oppress many others besides the Hammonds. And as has been explained since near page one, this is about more than the Hammonds.

Not to mention, aren't the Hammonds in Southern California? Perhaps their opinion on the matter was influenced by not wanting to go to Colorado? Or Kansas.

Why don't you actually follow what is going on out there instead of parroting propagandist lies? Next you'll be saying they caused $100,000 in structural damage.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

Yes, and the proper permits, which they also didn't have

This is how I read most of the loyalist/apologist sentiment here.

 

[dannno]

Bundy and co went to Oregon and took over that building after the were told not too by the Oregon family. They imposed their issue on people who didn't want it.

Seem familiar? Kind of the same as the birthers, thruthers and conspiracy theorists did to Ron and continue to do to Rand. I'm sure they all will get butthurt and neg rep me. I don't care.

That is inaccurate - it was after the federal govt. threatened the Hammond family with an inferior prison environment if they became involved with the Bundy crew that Hammond's lawyer made a statement that the Hammond family is not involved with the Bundy crew.

See, that's the problem, you anti-conspiracy folks often have the wrong facts at hand. It's really important to understand both sides of the narrative before drawing a conclusion, some day you might learn that.

Truthers and birthers supporting political candidates may not help their campaign in the short run, but the fact of the matter is the truthers are right and if people took some time to research it for themselves and learn the truth about 9/11, no doubt a candidate who is calling out the military industrial complex for their actions would sound attractive whether the candidate understood the truth about what happened or not. I am personally of the opinion that most politicians have learned not to touch 9/11 truth with a 50 foot pole if they want to stay in politics, so to presume what politicians say about the subject is always what they actually believe would be erroneous.

 

[Mach]

Yes, and the proper permits, which they also didn't have

You're not in trouble the day they refuse to issue the permit, you are in trouble the day that you psychologically accepted the idea that the government had the authority to give you the permit in the first place.
- Michael Badnarik

 

[goldenequity]

Constitutional Attorney KrisAnne Hall
Will Speak on Friday to Committee of Safety Meeting in Burns and through the weekend
(If Judge Grasti will 'let' them use a building.... )

Here's a sample of KrisAnne


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In other news...

►Besides the Fire Marshall, three more officials (from the School District)
have now resigned and are taking a stand against the local corruption.

►Tomorrow's meeting promises to expose and document improprieties and misconduct
by Judge Grasti and other officials.

 

[Weston White]

I don't even have cable and we only get one TV station out here.

Bundy and co went to Oregon and took over that building after the were told not too by the Oregon family. They imposed their issue on people who didn't want it.

Seem familiar? Kind of the same as the birthers, thruthers and conspiracy theorists did to Ron and continue to do to Rand. I'm sure they all will get butthurt and neg rep me. I don't care.

Imagine if America's Founders had just such a mawkish attitude whenever challenged by the Loyalists? You would be sipping tea right about now, while chanting "God save the Queen!"

 

[goldenequity]

Professor Doom
Oregon: Harney County the secret they don't want you to know

►Recommend you clik these vids @ the Full Screen icon lower right to read document text



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Dutchsinse

 

[phill4paul]

Just wanted to say you are doing an excellent job of keeping this thread updated goldeneqyity.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to goldenequity again.

 

[goldenequity]

Just wanted to say you are doing an excellent job of keeping this thread updated goldenequity.

Thanks Phill4... as you can see w/ the last 2 vids... the plot thickens.

A few things I know:
Grazing 'rights' are not Mineral 'rights'.
Mineral rights are portioned as Mining claims; either Placer claims or Lode claims.
Placer (surface/alluvial sands/earth) claims are 1/4 section (160 acres)
Lode (hard rock/deep mine) claims are 20 acres
In order to gain 'fee title' to a mining claim, you must 'Patent' the claim (part of THAT process is to prove VALUE)

Do the Bundys and/or the Hammonds own the mineral rights? idk.

A Liberty question would be:
What's the best way (in 2016) for the STATES to apportion THEIR mineral wealth?
Like Alaska? Every citizen gets a check... idk.
One thing I DO know: It must be De-Centralized and the first step would be re-asserting State authority.