Radical plan to split California into three states earns spot on November ballot

[opal]

I was just going for similar land mass and coastal access - which I imagine, nobody wants to give up.

 

[Swordsmyth]

The Red counties in the north need to start up the State of Jefferson movement with southern Oregon again.

 

[Swordsmyth]

The movement to slice up the state of California is reeling from internal clashes over what’s the best way to rearrange the state.
The Cal 3 measure, which seeks to break up America’s most populous state into three smaller states, recently gathered enough support to earn the right to appear on the Nov. 6 state election ballot, giving voters a historic chance to improve their representation on the national level.
But rather than get behind the upcoming vote, the separatist movement has fractured into multiple camps, each offering their own plans and criticizing each other for unfair dividing lines, the Washington Times reported.
Paul Preston, vice president and co-founder of the New California movement that want a two-state solution in California, based on rural-urban lines, says venture capitalist Tim Draper’s partition plan -- the one on which voters will vote in November -- wouldn’t address the issue of voter representation, as it would merely create two deep blue states and one swing state.
“With Draper, he makes sure every area has an urbanized zone that will ultimately be blue. You still have the rural-urban thing going on in his formula,” Preston told the Times. “The rural people will be shafted again.”


Yes California’s Louis Marinelli, meanwhile, opposes both the Draper and Preston initiatives, claiming all of them are just Republican plots to “chip away at the voice California lends to the republic as a solid blue state.”
Marinelli’s plan, dubbed Calexit, seeks to make California a wholly independent country and secede from the U.S. altogether – a step too far for other separatists.

The Cal 3 initiative managed to attract more than 400,000 signatures and paving the way to appear on the ballot in November, but other separatists say they are unlikely to achieve much.


“The three Californias measure is dead on arrival,” said Preston. “It’s not constitutionally sound, and everybody recognizes it. Everybody I’ve been talking to — and I get flooded because we’ve got 50 counties engaged in our program — everybody’s absolutely appalled by it.”
Preston’s New California group, meanwhile, is set to hold a July 21 constitutional convention and expect to make a case to the state legislature so the lawmakers can then proceed to split the state. He argues that the only way to achieve a partition of California is to follow the U.S. Constitution’s Article IV, Section 3, which states that no new states can be created “without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.”

More at: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06/22/californians-divided-on-whether-how-to-divide.html

 

[Anti Globalist]

At least theres a parallel universe where California actually does split.

 

[Michael Landon]

I really wish Minnesota would split in two. Northern Minnesota is far more conservative than the south. The majority of the state legislature is controlled by Twin Cities Democrats who continue to raise taxes. And when they divvy up the money in grants, the money hardly ever gets sent up north. Northern Minnesota would flourish if it weren't for the south. #218MinnExit

- ML

 

[Keith and stuff]

This would very likely mean 6 United States senators that are communist / Democrat socialist from California. I do not support communism i.e the murder of almost every single person that doesn't agree with the worst possible thing in the world.

 

[Swordsmyth]

This would very likely mean 6 United States senators that are communist / Democrat socialist from California. I do not support communism i e the murder of almost every single person that doesn't agree with the worst possible thing in the world. Since I don't agree that tens of millions of people should be murdered for no reason at all, I oppose this. Thankfully, I must know what an earth supports this, except for maybe a dozen people on this form and several thousand people in the real world. Thankfully many billions of people are completely opposed to this retarded idea.

I support splitting it in two, the big cities vs. the countryside, then the leftists in the urban part should be thrown out of the union or allowed to leave.