Rachael Maddow Book - Drift - IT'S WORKING GUYS!! THEY ARE SLOWLY GETTING IT!

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Just watched the daily show online and John Stewart was doing an interview with Rachael Maddow, who wrote the book Drift. It was the March 29 show, so go ahead and watch it. On the Daily Show Website, but here's the link to the book:

http://www.amazon.com/Drift-Unmooring-American-Military-Power/dp/0307460983

I think this sounds like a really great book to have in your reading list. Definitely worth a read, and she makes a great point that the reason we don't have more push back against "wars of choice" is because people don't really feel it.

People are slowly coming around, and the more people besides Ron Paul who start repeating the sorts of things he's saying, the more powerful and compelling our movement will become in eventually influencing some positive change in this area.

Here's the complete description. Before you start hating on Rachel Maddow, take off your hate glasses and TELL ME this doesn't sound like something Ron Paul would write.

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"One of my favorite ideas is, never to keep an unnecessary soldier," Thomas Jefferson wrote in 1792. Neither Jefferson nor the other Found*ers could ever have envisioned the modern national security state, with its tens of thousands of "privateers"; its bloated Department of Homeland Security; its rust*ing nuclear weapons, ill-maintained and difficult to dismantle; and its strange fascination with an unproven counterinsurgency doctrine.

Written with bracing wit and intelligence, Rachel Maddow's Drift argues that we've drifted away from America's original ideals and become a nation weirdly at peace with perpetual war, with all the financial and human costs that entails. To understand how we've arrived at such a dangerous place, Maddow takes us from the Vietnam War to today's war in Afghanistan, along the way exploring the disturbing rise of executive authority, the gradual outsourcing of our war-making capabilities to private companies, the plummeting percentage of American families whose children fight our constant wars for us, and even the changing fortunes of G.I. Joe. She offers up a fresh, unsparing appraisal of Reagan's radical presidency. Ultimately, she shows us just how much we stand to lose by allowing the priorities of the national security state to overpower our political discourse.

Sensible yet provocative, dead serious yet seri*ously funny, Drift will reinvigorate a "loud and jangly" political debate about how, when, and where to apply America's strength and power--and who gets to make those decisions.

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Amazon review from a Democrat who likes Ron Paul:

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As a Democrat, while watching the Republican debates I never expected to feel like standing up and cheering about anything they said, but that's how I felt when Ron Paul spoke about foreign policy and wars (his views on economic matters are flawed, but on foreign policy he has some good thoughts). Democrats can agree with Libertarians on the cautions as to war which Rachel expresses in this excellent book. And yes ... even conservatives should like this. TRUE conservatives (not the Neo-Cons). This country HAS drifted from thoughtful discussions before entering into war. We had already headed too far that way before 9/11, but 9/11 gave huge impetus for further drift -- too much fear about being blamed if another attack happened led Presidents to be overly warlike and Congress to be sheep, in going along with War pushes. One gets the feeling that too many members of Congress do not have an educated perspective about the proper, strong role of Congress in War policy. Every politician and voter in America should read this book and get a better perspective, a better sense of history, and work to reassert the proper caution.
 
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I won't be giving any money to the eugenicist hate pimp Rachel Maddow. Maddow is a student of known hard core racist Cecil Rhodes. It's going to take more than a couple passages in a book to change those facts.

I'll read anything I can learn from. Despite the source. My library is quickly outgrowing my time.
 
I won't be giving any money to the eugenicist hate pimp Rachel Maddow. Maddow is a student of known hard core racist Cecil Rhodes. It's going to take more than a couple passages in a book to change those facts.

That's where you are wrong. If you want to make people change their behavior, you don't just "punish" the bad stuff they do or say via things like hate mail. You REWARD them when they actually get it right.

I bought the book for the kindle app on my IPAD, and already I'm liking the intro. Talking about some of the wasteful spending on the Afghanistan war, like how some of that war money went to build houses for rich people in the Capital that don't even live in the country due to the unsafe conditions.

Again, I'm not endorsing any of her views, but when they get things right you have to give them KUDOS for it.
 
Seriously? This is what we're becoming? The Koch Brothers are evil ,and Rachel Maddow is a must-read.

Dude, take your hate glasses off for a second and read the damn book even if you have to spend a few hours at books-a-million or something. She's starting to sound like Ron Paul, even just a little bit. THAT'S A GOOD THING!!!!!!!!!!!! WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE THIS KIND OF DISCUSSION!!!

And according to the Daily Show interview, she apparently invested quite a bit of research into this book. She even quotes Thomas Jefferson in the description of her book.

Here's the complete description. TELL ME that doesn't sound like something Ron Paul would write.

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"One of my favorite ideas is, never to keep an unnecessary soldier," Thomas Jefferson wrote in 1792. Neither Jefferson nor the other Found*ers could ever have envisioned the modern national security state, with its tens of thousands of "privateers"; its bloated Department of Homeland Security; its rust*ing nuclear weapons, ill-maintained and difficult to dismantle; and its strange fascination with an unproven counterinsurgency doctrine.

Written with bracing wit and intelligence, Rachel Maddow's Drift argues that we've drifted away from America's original ideals and become a nation weirdly at peace with perpetual war, with all the financial and human costs that entails. To understand how we've arrived at such a dangerous place, Maddow takes us from the Vietnam War to today's war in Afghanistan, along the way exploring the disturbing rise of executive authority, the gradual outsourcing of our war-making capabilities to private companies, the plummeting percentage of American families whose children fight our constant wars for us, and even the changing fortunes of G.I. Joe. She offers up a fresh, unsparing appraisal of Reagan's radical presidency. Ultimately, she shows us just how much we stand to lose by allowing the priorities of the national security state to overpower our political discourse.

Sensible yet provocative, dead serious yet seri*ously funny, Drift will reinvigorate a "loud and jangly" political debate about how, when, and where to apply America's strength and power--and who gets to make those decisions.
 
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Anyone who reads this worthless pig's book is an enemy of liberty as far as I'm concerned. She's an Obama propagandist and deserves to be thrown behind bars. Anything worthwhile she has to say is just her working to co-opt our legitimate movement and put it toward her statist goals
 
Anyone who reads this worthless pig's book is an enemy of liberty as far as I'm concerned. She's an Obama propagandist and deserves to be thrown behind bars. Anything worthwhile she has to say is just her working to co-opt our legitimate movement and put it toward her statist goals

Yeah, let's ban reading her book too while we are at it! Burn the book!!!!
 
Don't think so, friend.

Maddow is a talking head just as O'Reilly, Hannity, and Matthews are. She just happens to be far left, which is worse, in my opinion.
 
Don't think so, friend.

Maddow is a talking head just as O'Reilly, Hannity, and Matthews are. She just happens to be far left, which is worse, in my opinion.

But she's co-opting our message in her new statist propaganda book! And that's a good thing! Maybe she can bring some more liberty candidates on her show and try to bury them in the near future, hooray!
 
You can write books and release them while in prison. Besides if we banned her from releasing books then how would we identify enemies of liberty? and we'd have nothing to burn!

Yeah but it'd be a book written by a known criminal, a known propagandist, a known piece of scum. She wouldn't be able to go on a press tour and be welcomed with dignity by the whore media.
 
Dude, take your hate glasses off for a second and read the damn book even if you have to spend a few hours at books-a-million or something. She's starting to sound like Ron Paul, even just a little bit. THAT'S A GOOD THING!!!!!!!!!!!! WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE THIS KIND OF DISCUSSION!!!\.

She isn't coming around - she's trying to get you to come around. She acknowledges the 10% civil liberty stuff we agree on, and then takes you on a ride into her territory. She isn't getting it - she's getting you.

Those of us that have been doing this a long time learned a few lessons along the way. One of those lessons is that Rachel Maddow is a socialist warrior that will stab us in the back.

I'm tempted to buy the damned book just to post some quotes from it to make you look misguided.

To understand how we've arrived at such a dangerous place, Maddow takes us from the Vietnam War to today's war in Afghanistan,
Yes, because all our troubles started in the 70's.
 
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she's a silly, twisted ideologue that's 'pandering' to the anti-war left because people are tired of her bullshit and her ratings are slipping. she is a manipulative bullshit artist, and that will never change. she sells lies for a living and if you think she's 'coming our way', i think you are deluding yourself. real change would be getting her ass off the air, along with people like her, and replacing them with people with a modicum of decency.

her being against some wars now in a book is great. i have a feeling if she had really changed, she'd be as vitriolic against Obama on air as she was against Bush. But she's not, because as I stated in point 1, she's a freaking far left ideologue.
 
Gotta get the left to support Obama in this election year. Books like this are an attempt to accomplish that goal. Keep the anti-war people on the reservation for four more years of Obama.
 
She wouldn't be able to go on a press tour and be welcomed with dignity by the whore media.

Uhm...I wouldn't be so sure about that.
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But she's co-opting our message in her new statist propaganda book! And that's a good thing! Maybe she can bring some more liberty candidates on her show and try to bury them in the near future, hooray!

Exactly... :rolleyes:

She isn't coming around - she's trying to get you to come around. She acknowledges the 10% civil liberty stuff we agree on, and then takes you on a ride into her territory. She isn't getting it - she's getting you.

Those of us that have been doing this a long time learned a few lessons along the way. One of those lessons is that Rachel Maddow is a socialist (warrior) that will stab us in the back.

Pretty much this. She realizes she has a few Ron Paul viewers and so she likes to play with them a little bit. And in bold, I laughed. So true.
 
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