Rabid Paul supporters undermining campaign

[No Opinion]

A. O. W.

Maybe we will see those Rabid Guiliani supporters acting out and screaming at people when they don't agree with them on the streets. You know the ones, the ones that tell you that you have no idea what's best for you and that whatever Rudy wants to do to protect you, it's in your best interest to conform. I've heard it myself. Isn't it our duty to make sure these actions are exposed?

Maybe we will see those young supporters wearing Guiliani baseball caps along with their 9-11 truth shirts chanting behind Rudy when the cameras are on. I've seen this too, it's a shame this isn't caught on camera more.

Maybe we will see more of the Romney supporters telling the crowd just how wrong their religious beliefs are and they need to repent now. I've been approached like this. Shouldn't this be exposed? I think so.

 

[evadmurd]

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." - Mahatma Ghandi.

No need to flame me about comparing Dr. Paul to Christ. Not my intention. Just an example of how followers, however well intentioned, can be a stumbling block more than a help. Several old and stale cliches come to mind that I won't repeat.

 

[Revolution9]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=244558#poststop

We need converts, lots of converts. Alienating posts are counterproductive.

Then why do you continue to post several daily? You totally piss me off and I have not been to any Saturday rallies for two weeks now because this BS from hacks and wonks and control freaks just has me turned off to the whole thing. My momentum has dimnished greatly. I was going to key an event at The Fox for RP but frankly..I don't wanna listen to all the crap and have to do all the crap as well.

Do this..don't do that..this needs changing to fit my will,,act the way I say.. Do things the way I want them done or we lose.. I am sick and fed up to the rafters with this spew day after day from people like you, who want to "help" and the other control freak who started this trite and drivelling plunge into the dpeths of the bowel movement that has passed as journalism from the politiwonks here....a national head honcho type of control freak apparently,..so we should give his pushy ass special kudos..jeesh.... You helped me get demotivated. I don't work well under control freaks and why should I report any actvities to this forum when a bunch of posters here are just gonna control freak all over me. Then I will answer them in a manner well deserved by them and then recieve a warning from the moderators..

Bradley..get a new attitude. America is NOT DC. You report all the trivial crap spewed out by the bought and paid for machines there and think it matters. You are one discouraging wonk with a case of self importance that blinders you. You control nothing except your own ass. Just like everybody else in Gods Green Creation. To the National Political head Honchoid who started this thread. A handy piss up a rope pal to you.. Tp the fool who proscribed meds for some of the people he met.. I think the problem may not be mental but a physical all;ergenic problem to substances that are unnatural in ther foodstuffs..or there is neural degeneration from TV viewing. The fact that you say they need meds shows the type of shadow riven mindspace you inhabit. You are no better than a eugenics spewing Rockefeller foundation shill.

Rant off
Randy

 

[Zack]

I believe Bush was a bit behind in the polls against Kerry when the Republican Convention took place in NY in 2004.

But then I watched slogan-chanting anti-war protesters block up the streets, make lots of noise, and get in people's way, during the convention.

I remarked on that day that because of the subconscious psychological reaction people would have watching this on the news, that George Bush would be re-elected.

I didn't even think it. I all but knew it. That's just the way most people subconsciously react to slogan-chanting protest crowds. Regardless of the message.

On Tuesday, November 2, 2004, George Walker Bush, the President of the United States, was elected over Democratic candidate John Kerry, United States Senator from Massachusetts.

 

[Adamsa]

Informing people rather than shouting at them is always the better option.

 

[Jared Callanan]

I think we can learn from some of these negative pieces meaning the ones that discuss Ron Paul supporters in a singular fashion.

 

[terlinguatx]

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[JohnXSmith]

Steve, as usual, you are dead right. The biggest problem with the campaign's chances of success right now, aside from very low name recognition, is the behavior of his supporters.

Nope, I disagree. The biggest problem is the Diebold machines.

 

[kylejack]

Nope, I disagree. The biggest problem is the Diebold machines.

We can expose any hijinks with exit polls.

 

[freelance]

We can expose any hijinks with exit polls.

Didn't Kerry's exit polls show him clearly in the lead in precincts that "registered" decisive leads for Bush?

Check out The Brad Blog to see all the latest news on electronic voting:

http://www.bradblog.com/

 

[ladyliberty]

Does this mean I can't wear my tin foil hat anymore when I tell people about Ron Paul?

 

[Dan Klaus]

Thanks for the reminder Steve...the point is certainly valid...

I would like to speak to our Russian friend..anyone know him?? I have lived in the former soviet union for almost 13 years and think I can relate to his passion...a little cross-cultural lesson might be in order..pm me..

LOL at Rockwells's avatar..

 

[Dan Klaus]

Nope, I disagree. The biggest problem is the Diebold machines.

...BINGO!!!...

 

[jabowery]

Rule #1: Don't Argue -- Inform

Rule #1 of telling people about Ron Paul is not to argue with them -- its a HUGE waste of time.

Offer them information about Ron Paul's positions and clarify his positions if need be but do NOT get into an argument about their merits with casual contacts!

Virtually none of the people looking to argue with you are going to change their minds either. Many just like arguing and wasting your time and the rest have already made up their minds and will not be changed short of an extended educational experience for which they must volunteer and for which you do not have the resources!

 

[pcosmar]

I have had good luck letting Ron Paul sell himself, I just present him.
That said, I have thought about getting some foam or lather, just for the up-tight folks around here.

Bark at the Moon.

 

[Zack]

I'm not the author of this thread, but I'm bumping it over 2 months after it was posted, for relevance to the results in New Hampshire. If having the highest amount of visible/loud support got votes, Ron Paul would have won. You can make either a good impression or bad impression. We are relatively intelligent, professional people, calling for a return to Constitutional government. Lawful goverment. We often come across looking like the annoying rabble that blocked up streets and pretty much won Bush the election by protesting outside the Republican convention in NY in 2004.

 

[RonRules]

When you canvass and someone says "I like _______ instead". Respond with "He does make good points too" or something non-confrontational. Then ask "What are your most important issues?" You'll end up talking for minutes instead of a staring at a closed door.

There are canvassing classes on the new. Please check them out.