Quotes from the Dhammapada

Awwww... c'mon you guys. When Sola took a time out this place went quiet as a church mouse - dull as a bag of rocks, too.

Sola's a smart guy and his views are well considered. If he cut out what would we have to talk about? If everybody on the planet agreed on stuff like this how boring would that be?

Besides, if nothing else Sola's views cause me to take a good hard look at my own. I spend more time in the Bible, more time at kingjamesbibleonline.org, and more time at biblehub.com responding to Sola's posts than anybody on this board. That's not just a good thing, that's a great thing.

So in kind of a back-handed way I want to say Thanks Sola! :)


Thanks James. I really take that as a wonderful compliment. I really appreciate the posters like you who engage with me on religious matters. We both learn something in the end.
 
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Awwww... c'mon you guys. When Sola took a time out this place went quiet as a church mouse - dull as a bag of rocks, too.

Sola's a smart guy and his views are well considered. If he cut out what would we have to talk about? If everybody on the planet agreed on stuff like this how boring would that be?

Besides, if nothing else Sola's views cause me to take a good hard look at my own. I spend more time in the Bible, more time at kingjamesbibleonline.org, and more time at biblehub.com responding to Sola's posts than anybody on this board. That's not just a good thing, that's a great thing.

So in kind of a back-handed way I want to say Thanks Sola! :)

This is not the SF forum and he is disruptive to any thread this isn't entertaining his narcissistic belief structure. His consistent and persistent attacks upon those who wish to have a haven for discussion outside of his belief structure are an insult to a community that is striving to be a workable model of liberty. I don't think that liberty implies that everyone should have to allow the town bully to control the conversation so his ego can be satisfied. There are plenty of threads where his nonsense is entertained and you could allow him to amuse you there, but he doesn't need to crap all over every thread so you can be amused and/or challenged. Frankly, after seeing his nonsense for the last few years he is like a one trick pony, and his constant attention seeking is tiresome and obnoxious. A person with a conscience and any morality would not require numerous requests to cease and desist, especially when the solution is as easy as creating a thread to indulge himself in instead of disrupting threads with his off topic diarrhea.
 
This is not the SF forum and he is disruptive to any thread this isn't entertaining his narcissistic belief structure. His consistent and persistent attacks upon those who wish to have a haven for discussion outside of his belief structure are an insult to a community that is striving to be a workable model of liberty. I don't think that liberty implies that everyone should have to allow the town bully to control the conversation so his ego can be satisfied. There are plenty of threads where his nonsense is entertained and you could allow him to amuse you there, but he doesn't need to crap all over every thread so you can be amused and/or challenged. Frankly, after seeing his nonsense for the last few years he is like a one trick pony, and his constant attention seeking is tiresome and obnoxious. A person with a conscience and any morality would not require numerous requests to cease and desist, especially when the solution is as easy as creating a thread to indulge himself in instead of disrupting threads with his off topic diarrhea.

How can my belief structure be narcissistic when I believe I am less than nothing and dead in my trespasses and sins? How am I being narcissistic when I don't believe it is anything in me that is responsible for my salvation?

I believe the narcissistic ones are the ones who believe it is their will that is responsible for their salvation. They were smart enough or more spiritual or more discerning than the other idiots who didn't choose Jesus. They have something to boast about. Who really has the narcissistic view here?
 
Siddhartha Gautama, Buddha Quotes


A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker.

All that we are is the result of what we have thought. If a man speaks or acts with an evil thought, pain follows him. If a man speaks or acts with a pure thought, happiness follows him, like a shadow that never leaves him.

All things appear and disappear because of the concurrence of causes and conditions. Nothing ever exists entirely alone; everything is in relation to everything else.

All wrong-doing arises because of mind. If mind is transformed can wrong-doing remain?

Ambition is like love, impatient both of delays and rivals.

An idea that is developed and put into action is more important than an idea that exists only as an idea.

An insincere and evil friend is more to be feared than a wild beast; a wild beast may wound your body, but an evil friend will wound your mind.

Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.

Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace.

Chaos is inherent in all compounded things. Strive on with diligence.

Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment.

Do not overrate what you have received, nor envy others. He who envies others does not obtain peace of mind.

Ennui has made more gamblers than avarice, more drunkards than thirst, and perhaps as many suicides as despair.

Every human being is the author of his own health or disease.

Hatred does not cease by hatred, but only by love; this is the eternal rule.

He is able who thinks he is able.

He who experiences the unity of life sees his own Self in all beings, and all beings in his own Self, and looks on everything with an impartial eye.

He who loves 50 people has 50 woes; he who loves no one has no woes.

Health is the greatest gift, contentment the greatest wealth, faithfulness the best relationship.

Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned.

However many holy words you read,However many you speak,What good will they do youIf you do not act on upon them?

I do not believe in a fate that falls on men however they act; but I do believe in a fate that falls on them unless they act.

I never see what has been done; I only see what remains to be done.

In a controversy the instant we feel anger we have already ceased striving for the truth, and have begun striving for ourselves.

In the sky, there is no distinction of east and west; people create distinctions out of their own minds and then beleive them to be true.

It is a man's own mind, not his enemy or foe, that lures him to evil ways.

It is better to conquer yourself than to win a thousand battles. Then the victory is yours. It cannot be taken from you, not by angels or by demons, heaven or hell.

It is better to travel well than to arrive.

Just as a candle cannot burn without fire, men cannot live without a spiritual life.

Just as treasures are uncovered from the earth, so virtue appears from good deeds, and wisdom appears from a pure and peaceful mind. To walk safely through the maze of human life, one needs the light of wisdom and the guidance of virtue.

Let us rise up and be thankful, for if we didn't learn a lot today, at least we learned a little, and if we didn't learn a little, at least we didn't get sick, and if we got sick, at least we didn't die; so, let us all be thankful.

On life's journey faith is nourishment, virtuous deeds are a shelter, wisdom is the light by day and right mindfulness is the protection by night. If a man lives a pure life, nothing can destroy him.

Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without.

Teach this triple truth to all: A generous heart, kind speech, and a life of service and compassion are the things which renew humanity.

The foot feels the foot when it feels the ground.

The only real failure in life is not to be true to the best one knows.

The secret of health for both mind and body is not to mourn for the past, nor to worry about the future, but to live the present moment wisely and earnestly.

The tongue like a sharp knife... Kills without drawing blood.

The virtues, like the Muses, are always seen in groups. A good principle was never found solitary in any breast.

The wise ones fashioned speech with their thought, sifting it as grain is sifted through a sieve.

The world, indeed, is like a dream and the treasures of the world are an alluring mirage! Like the apparent distances in a picture, things have no reality in themselves, but they are like heat haze.

There are only two mistakes one can make along the road to truth; not going all the way, and not starting.

There is nothing more dreadful than the habit of doubt. Doubt separates people. It is a poison that disintegrates friendships and breaks up pleasant relations. It is a thorn that irritates and hurts; it is a sword that kills.

Those who are free of resentful thoughts surely find peace.

Thousands of candles can be lighted from a single candle, and the life of the candle will not be shortened. Happiness never decreases by being shared.

Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth.

To be idle is a short road to death and to be diligent is a way of life; foolish people are idle, wise people are diligent.

To enjoy good health, to bring true happiness to one's family, to bring peace to all, one must first discipline and control one's own mind. If a man can control his mind he can find the way to Enlightenment, and all wisdom and virtue will naturally come to him.

To live a pure unselfish life, one must count nothing as one's own in the midst of abundance.

Unity can only be manifested by the Binary. Unity itself and the idea of Unity are already two.

Virtue is persecuted more by the wicked than it is loved by the good.

We are formed and molded by our thoughts. Those whose minds are shaped by selfless thoughts give joy when they speak or act. Joy follows them like a shadow that never leaves them.

We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts, we make the world.

What is the appropriate behavior for a man or a woman in the midst of this world, where each person is clinging to his piece of debris? What's the proper salutation between people as they pass each other in this flood?

What we think, we become.

Whatever words we utter should be chosen with care for people will hear them and be influenced by them for good or ill.

When one has the feeling of dislike for evil, when one feels tranquil, one finds pleasure in listening to good teachings; when one has these feelings and appreciates them, one is free of fear.

Without health life is not life; it is only a state of langour and suffering - an image of death.

Work out your own salvation. Do not depend on others.

You can search throughout the entire universe for someone who is more deserving of your love and affection than you are yourself, and that person is not to be found anywhere. You yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe deserve your love and affection.

You, yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love and affection.

Your work is to discover your world and then with all your heart give yourself to it.
 
How can my belief structure be narcissistic when I believe I am less than nothing and dead in my trespasses and sins? How am I being narcissistic when I don't believe it is anything in me that is responsible for my salvation?

I believe the narcissistic ones are the ones who believe it is their will that is responsible for their salvation. They were smart enough or more spiritual or more discerning than the other idiots who didn't choose Jesus. They have something to boast about. Who really has the narcissistic view here?

Take it to another thread. This is not the place to go much further but narcissism is quite prevalent in religion and is used as a method of control by those who have enormous egos and wish to feel as though they were made superior to others whom they claim are lost, ignorant, or damned. Your petty tyrant routine wherein you personally decide what others believe and who is in or out while you act with no regard for the rights of others or remorse is classic narcissist behavior.
 
This is not the SF forum and he is disruptive to any thread this isn't entertaining his narcissistic belief structure. His consistent and persistent attacks upon those who wish to have a haven for discussion outside of his belief structure are an insult to a community that is striving to be a workable model of liberty. I don't think that liberty implies that everyone should have to allow the town bully to control the conversation so his ego can be satisfied. There are plenty of threads where his nonsense is entertained and you could allow him to amuse you there, but he doesn't need to crap all over every thread so you can be amused and/or challenged. Frankly, after seeing his nonsense for the last few years he is like a one trick pony, and his constant attention seeking is tiresome and obnoxious. A person with a conscience and any morality would not require numerous requests to cease and desist, especially when the solution is as easy as creating a thread to indulge himself in instead of disrupting threads with his off topic diarrhea.
Ok. But you say "Take it to another thread" and then respond in like kind - keeping the off-topic conversation going. Do as you say, not as you do, in other words :)

(full disclosure: I was going to give you a neg rep and keep this comment private, but it gave me the "you can't rep moostraks anymore" thingy lol}

But you still send me and I still have a big 'ol diamond with your name on it!!

If you ever become socially available, of course.

;)
 
Ok. But you say "Take it to another thread" and then respond in like kind - keeping the off-topic conversation going. Do as you say, not as you do, in other words :)

(full disclosure: I was going to give you a neg rep and keep this comment private, but it gave me the "you can't rep moostraks anymore" thingy lol}

But you still send me and I still have a big 'ol diamond with your name on it!!

If you ever become socially available, of course.

;)

I feel bad about cluttering up tommy's thread when it was very consistent until the usual disruption took place. I addressed SF because someone should step forward who comes from the same faith title and call it out.(I don't complain to the mods, they have enough problems) I responded to you in public because I want it on the record and not as gossip.(as your post was directed to tommy but included you guys re: asking SF to take it elsewhere) I have had enough of SF's accusations to warrant not giving any more ammo to a person with a grudge.

If SF wants to discuss narcissism and religion I made a thread recently or he can start his own. As for doing unto others, I am, as I would and have appreciate(d) other's support when SF trashed them (my threads). If tommy needs to the off topic posts can be moved.

My apologies to tommy and if you have anything more to address me on the subject start a new thread on it but let's get this one back to its originally scheduled program.:)
 
3/19/15

Chapter 15: Happiness

The sight of the elect (Arya) is good, to live with them is always happiness; if a man does not see fools, he will be truly happy.

He who walks in the company of fools suffers a long way;company with fools, as with an enemy, is always painful; company with the wise is pleasure, like meeting with kinsfolk.

Therefore, one ought to follow the wise, the intelligent, the learned, the much enduring, the dutiful, the elect; one ought to follow a good and wise man, as the moon follows the path of the stars.
 
Hi Folks

Not a Buddha quote, however seems appropriate for the bickering that I am reading in this thread.

" DIE RELIGIONEN MUSSEN ALLE TOLERIERT WERDEN...DENN HIER MUSS EIN JEDER NACH SEINER FASSON SELIG WERDEN'

' All RELIGIONS MUST BE TOLERATED... EVERY MAN MUST GO TO HEAVEN IN HIS OWN WAY'.( Fredrick the Great).

My .02

Acesfull
 
3/24/15

Chapter 17: Anger

Let a man leave anger, let him forsake pride, let him overcome all bondage! No sufferings befall the man who is not attached to name and form, and who calls nothing his own.

He who holds back rising anger like a rolling chariot, him i call a real driver; other people are but holding the reins.
 
In the book there may be more than one verse at a time on each page. I am making these posts one page at a time, so like my last post there are two verses. Just letting you guys/gals know so it may clear up any confusion arising from my not saying so. This next post also has two verses.


3/24/15

Chapter 17: Anger

Let a man overcome anger by love, let him overcome evil by good; let him overcome the greedy by liberality, the liar by truth!

Speak the truth, do not yield to anger; give , if thou art asked asked for little; by these three steps thou wilt go near the gods.
 
4/6/15

Chapter 17: Anger

The sages who injure nobody, and who always control their body, they will go to the unchangeable place (Nirvana), where, if they have gone, they will suffer no more.

Those who are ever watchful, who study day and night, and who strive after Nirvana, their passions will come to an end.
 
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4/13/15

Chapter 17: Anger

This is a old saying, O Atula, this is not only of today: " They blame him who sits silent, they blame him who speaks much, they also blame him who says little; there is no one on earth who is not blamed."

There never was, there will never be, nor is there now, a man who is always blamed, or a man who is always praised.

But he whom those discriminate praise continually day after day, as without blemish, wise, rich in knowledge and virtue, who would dare to blame him, like a coin made of gold from the Gambu river? Even gods praise him, he is praised even by Brahman.
 
4/20/15

Chapter 17: Anger

Beware of bodily anger, and control thy body! Leave the sins of the body, and with thy body practice virtue!

Beware of the anger of the tongue, and control thy tongue! Leave the sins of the tongue, and practice virtue with thy tongue!

Beware of the anger of the mind, and control thy mind! Leave the sins of the mind, and practice virtue with thy mind!

The wise who control their body, who control their tongue,the wise who control their mind, are indeed well controlled.
 
4/27/15

Chapter 19: The Just

A man is not just if he carries a matter by violence; no; he who distinguishes both right and wrong , who is learned and leads others, not by violence, but by law and equity, and who is guarded by the law and intelligent, he is called just.

A man is not learned because he talks much; he who is patient , free from hatred and fear, he is called learned.

A man is not a supporter of the law because he talks much; even if a man has learned little, but sees the law bodily, he is a supporter of the law, a man who never neglects the law.
 
5/4/15

Chapter 19: The Just

A man is not a elder because his head is grey; his age may be ripe, but he is called "Old -in-vain".

He in whom there is truth, virtue, love, restraint, moderation, he who is free from impurity and is wise, he is called an elder.
 
5/12/15

Chapter 19: The Just

An envious, stingy, dishonest man does not become respectable by means of much talking only, or by the beauty of his complexion.

He in whom all this is destroyed, and taken out with the very root, he, when freed from hatred, is called respectable.
 
5/18/15

Chapter 19: The Just

Not by tonsure does an undisciplined man who speaks falsehood become a Samana; can a man be a Samana who is still held captive by desire and greediness?

He who always quiets the evil, whether small or large, he is called a Samana ( a quiet man), because he has quieted all evil.
 
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