Question for anarchists - How would you handle national defense?

[onlyrp]

As long as they ignore the Constitution, then they do not have legitimate authority. What is your proposal to abolish the state?

I'm sure the bad guys lose a lot of sleep over breaking the rules, obviously they care about us and want to have 'legit' authority.

 

[Travlyr]

I'm sure the bad guys lose a lot of sleep over breaking the rules, obviously they care about us and want to have 'legit' authority.

I don't agree. That is the fight. They do not want us to make them obey their oath of office. Counterfeiting and warmongering are far too profitable for them.

 

[Travlyr]

what a great constitution that allowed it.

Counterfeiting and warmongering are not allowed by the constitution. Debasement of currency is a capital crime.

 

[Pericles]

Following every word - this is where you are.

It never could work.

It is irrational to believe that the entity charged with making and enforcing law would ever make and enforce a law to limit itself.

That is asking the devil to tie himself up with his own rope. Only the most naive would believe the knots he would tie could not be undone.

No - the enforcement mechanism is the militias of the several states. Gut the states militias, and there is no counter to federal power.

 

[ProIndividual]

Make them illegal eh? Under what authority?

I think I'll just keep supporting Ron Paul, sound money, limited government, and a foreign policy of freedom.

I thought I mentioned that...natural law. Free market law is still law.

You can keep supporting limited mafia, a better monopoly on money, and a foreign policy led by sociopaths pretending it will be more free and less agressive...I on the other hand support Ron Paul because he at least recognizes that competition in currency (the end of the monopoly) is important to achieveing sound money, that limited mafia is just a step toward Voluntaryism (making the maifa illegal), and a foreign policy that doesn't exist except in self defense because it's not led by sociopaths due to it's monopolization as a service in the free market.

Spout memes until you're blue in the face, your slogans aren't making your beloved mafia any less criminal.

 

[Black Flag]

What is your proposal to abolish the state?

Do absolutely nothing to it or for it.

You attack the State violently, you give it power and the State gets stronger
You attempt to change the State, you give it power and the State gets stronger

But if you neither defend nor attack nor use nor support the State, it withers.

 

[otherone]

What is your proposal to abolish the state?

Let's fix the state!
1) Repeal the 17th amendment
2) Repeal the 14th amendment
Problem solved!

 

[Travlyr]

Yeah, doing nothing as suggested by Black Flag is not going to stop the illegitimate state. That's how we got where we are at.
Passing another law to eliminate the state as suggested by ProIndividual doesn't seem like a good plan either. Who is going to enforce it?

Forcing elected officials to obey the law as suggested by Ron Paul makes the most sense.
Bring the troops home
End the Fed
End the IRS
Repeal 14th, 16th, and 17th amendments.
And let the healing begin.

 

[Black Flag]

Let's fix the state!
1) Repeal the 17th amendment
2) Repeal the 14th amendment
Problem solved!

And you think anarchism is a fantasy!!

You cannot repair a system that has been organized to resist and eliminate changes to itself.

 

[Black Flag]

Yeah, doing nothing as suggested by Black Flag is not going to stop the illegitimate state.

Of course it will.

As Bastiat said, the moment you withdraw your consent, it fails.

 

[Travlyr]

And you think anarchism is a fantasy!!

You cannot repair a system that has been organized to resist and eliminate changes to itself.

But it can be eliminated by ignoring it?

 

[Black Flag]

But it can be eliminated by ignoring it?

Absolutely!

The State exists only because people use it.

Stop using it, and it has no purpose.

 

[Travlyr]

Absolutely!

The State exists only because people use it.

Stop using it, and it has no purpose.

I for one will not stop using it. Like I've said many times, I'm a homeowner. You offer nomadic philosophy. That didn't work out well for the natives. Until you offer something better, I'm sticking with Ron Paul. I've read his books and watched his speeches. He makes a lot more sense. Obey the Constitution to achieve liberty, peace, and prosperity.

 

[otherone]

I for one will not stop using it. Like I've said many times, I'm a homeowner.

If your house catches fire, DO NOT call the 'state'....take a nap instead.

 

[otherone]

You cannot repair a system that has been organized to resist and eliminate changes to itself.

You're not voting for Dr. Paul?

 

[Black Flag]

If your house catches fire, DO NOT call the 'state'....take a nap instead.

No, I call on my neighbors ... called VOLUNTEER firemen... remember them?

 

[Black Flag]

You're not voting for Dr. Paul?

He will never be in a position to receive any vote

 

[otherone]

He will never be in a position to receive any vote

If you're not around Tuesday, April 3rd, you can still cast an absentee vote.

edit: I assumed you lived in Texas. When is/was your State's primary?

 

[Black Flag]

If you're not around Tuesday, April 3rd, you can still cast an absentee vote.

1. He will never get to be in a position to be elected President
2. If he did, he would never win.
3. If he won, there is not one thing he could change.

Impossible x Impossible x Impossible = Impossible^3

 

[otherone]

1. He will never get to be in a position to be elected President
2. If he did, he would never win.
3. If he won, there is not one thing he could change.

LOL
Do you troll on other candidate's websites telling everyone how futile their efforts are?