"Qualified Immunity" was literally a mistake

U.S. Supreme Court could rule on Qualified Immunity

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More "qualified immunity" shenanigans (and in this case, there already is "clearly established" case law, and it still didn't matter to these clowns in gowns):

SWAT Raid on 'WRONG HOUSE!' Dragging Through the Courts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK9og5O8S1Q
{Steve Lehto | 05 May 2024}

And very well could end up in the Supreme Court.




@ 1:14: "... the 5thc Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that a SWAT commander couldn't have known that he had to make sure he had the correct house before ordering a raid on a house."

@ 3:55: "... the lieutenant [...] admits that his raid violated the 4th Amendment rights of [the family, yet] a three-judge panel of the 5th Circuit still held that he's immune from accountability."

@ 7:03: "The panel's decision departs from previous 5th Circuit precedent and four other circuit courts that have ruled that [Maryland v.] Garrison, a Supreme Court case, is the law of the land and should be followed."

And yet ...

Trump demands [more ?] immunity for police

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


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SWAT Team Raided WRONG HOUSE - [U.S. Supreme Court] Could Rule on Qualified Immunity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fC_FsuWEdTc
{Steve Lehto | 26 October 2024}

The Institute for Justice is handling this one.
https://ij.org/

 
The original version of the law, the one that was enacted in 1871, said state officials who subject “any person within the jurisdiction of the United States to the deprivation of any rights, privileges or immunities secured by the Constitution of the United States, shall, any such law, statute, ordinance, regulation, custom or usage of the state to the contrary notwithstanding, be liable to the party injured in any action at law, suit in equity, or other proper proceeding for redress.”

I have read and re-read this paragraph trying to see where I'm misinterpreting it, and I can't see it.

As I read this, the sentence means the exact same thing both with and without the italicized section.

How am I wrong?
 
Your argument founds on assumptions false, and ignores the conflict between the granted power and the inherent right. Where a granted power conflicts with an inherent right, there is no argument to be made in favor of the power over the right. The very notion of holding a granted power above an inherent right tap-dances merrily past absurdity.


I agree. But the moment this point is granted, the entire US Constitution becomes moot.
 
I have read and re-read this paragraph trying to see where I'm misinterpreting it, and I can't see it.

As I read this, the sentence means the exact same thing both with and without the italicized section.

How am I wrong?

You are not wrong. The italicized phrase wasn't intended to change the meaning of what was otherwise being stated.

It was intended to explicitly forbid any exceptions to what was otherwise being stated (which was not to be obviated by any "law, statute, ordinance, regulation, custom or usage of the state to the contrary").

The absence of an explicit prohibition can be parsed (as lawyers are wont to do) as the presence of an implicit permission.
 
Your argument founds on assumptions false, and ignores the conflict between the granted power and the inherent right. Where a granted power conflicts with an inherent right, there is no argument to be made in favor of the power over the right. The very notion of holding a granted power above an inherent right tap-dances merrily past absurdity.

My rights trump any "governmental" power. Period. My rights, and yours, are inherent to what we are. "Government" powers are synthetic and perforce arbitrary. It should require no hint of rocket surgery to dope out which of the two stands supreme. Proponents of the opposite view can rant and fart and vomit their idiocies contrary to glaring truth until the cows come home - to put a synthetic, and frankly a bullshit power above the inborn rights of a man, any man, is raving insanity. It is stupidity so wild as to defy words.

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I'm not sure what you call it when the spirit of the law is ignored, but it appears that "qualified immunity" is what you call it when the spirit and the letter of the law is ignored.

16 Crucial Words That Went Missing From a Landmark Civil Rights Law
The phrase, seemingly deleted in error, undermines the basis for qualified immunity, the legal shield that protects police officers from suits for misconduct.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/15/us/politics/qualified-immunity-supreme-court.html
[archive link: https://archive.is/23Fyt]
Adam Liptak (15 May 2023)

In a routine decision in March, a unanimous three-judge panel of a federal appeals court ruled against a Texas inmate who was injured when the ceiling of the hog barn he was working in collapsed. The court, predictably, said the inmate could not overcome qualified immunity, the much-criticized legal shield that protects government officials from suits for constitutional violations.

The author of the decision, Judge Don R. Willett, then did something unusual. He issued a separate concurring opinion to draw attention to the “game-changing arguments” in a recent law review article, one that seemed to demonstrate that the Supreme Court’s entire qualified immunity jurisprudence was based on a mistake.

“Wait, what?” Judge Willett wrote, incredulous.

In 1871, after the Civil War, Congress enacted a law that allowed suits against state officials for violations of constitutional rights. But the Supreme Court has said that the law, usually called Section 1983, did not displace immunities protecting officials that existed when the law was enacted. The doctrine of qualified immunity is based on that premise.

But the premise is wrong, Alexander A. Reinert, a professor at the Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law, wrote in the article, “Qualified Immunity’s Flawed Foundation,” published in The California Law Review.

Between 1871, when the law was enacted, and 1874, when a government official produced the first compilation of federal laws, Professor Reinert wrote, 16 words of the original law went missing. Those words, Professor Reinert wrote, showed that Congress had indeed overridden existing immunities.

Judge Willett considered the implications of the finding.

“What if the Reconstruction Congress had explicitly stated — right there in the original statutory text — that it was nullifying all common-law defenses against Section 1983 actions?” Judge Willett asked. “That is, what if Congress’s literal language unequivocally negated the original interpretive premise for qualified immunity?”

The original version of the law, the one that was enacted in 1871, said state officials who subject “any person within the jurisdiction of the United States to the deprivation of any rights, privileges or immunities secured by the Constitution of the United States, shall, any such law, statute, ordinance, regulation, custom or usage of the state to the contrary notwithstanding, be liable to the party injured in any action at law, suit in equity, or other proper proceeding for redress.”

The words in italics [and bolded - OB], for reasons lost to history, were omitted from the first compilation of federal laws in 1874, which was prepared by a government official called “the reviser of the federal statutes.”

“The reviser’s error, whether one of omission or commission, has never been corrected,” Judge Willett wrote.

The logic of the Supreme Court’s qualified immunity jurisprudence is that Congress would not have displaced existing immunities without saying so. But Professor Reinert argued that Congress did say so, in so many words.

“The omitted language confirms that the Reconstruction Congress in 1871 intended to provide a broad remedy for civil rights violations by state officials,” Professor Reinert said in an interview, noting that the law was enacted soon after the three constitutional amendments ratified after the Civil War: to outlaw slavery, insist on equal protection and guard the right to vote.

“Along with other contemporaneous evidence, including legislative history, it helps to show that Congress meant to fully enforce the Reconstruction Amendments via a powerful new cause of action,” Professor Reinert said.

Judge Willett, who was appointed by President Donald J. Trump, focused on the words of the original statute “in this text-centric judicial era when jurists profess unswerving fidelity to the words Congress chose.”

Qualified immunity, which requires plaintiffs to show that the officials had violated a constitutional right that was clearly established in a previous ruling, has been widely criticized by scholars and judges across the ideological spectrum. Justice Clarence Thomas, for instance, wrote that it does not appear to resemble the immunities available in 1871.

Professor Reinert’s article said that “is only half the story.”

“The real problem,” he wrote, “is that no qualified immunity doctrine at all should apply in Section 1983 actions, if courts stay true to the text adopted by the enacting Congress.”

Joanna Schwartz, a law professor at the University of California, Los Angeles, and the author of “Shielded: How the Police Became Untouchable,” said that “there is general agreement that the qualified immunity doctrine, as it currently operates, looks nothing like any protections that may have existed in 1871.” The new article, she said, identified “additional causes for skepticism.”

She added that “Judge Willett’s concurring opinion has brought much-needed, and well-deserved, attention to Alex Reinert’s insightful article.”

Judge Willett wrote that he and his colleagues are “middle-management circuit judges” who cannot overrule Supreme Court decisions. “Only that court,” he wrote, “can definitively grapple with Section 1983’s enacted text and decide whether it means what it says.”

Lawyers for the injured Texas inmate, Kevion Rogers, said they were weighing their options.

“The scholarship that Judge Willett unearthed in his concurrence is undoubtedly important to the arguments that civil rights litigants can make in the future,” the lawyers, Matthew J. Kita and Damon Mathias, said in a statement.

“Normally,” they added, “you cannot raise a new argument for reversal for the first time on appeal, much less at the Supreme Court of the United States. But one would think that if the Supreme Court acknowledges that it has been reciting and applying the statute incorrectly for nearly a century, there must be some remedy available to litigants whose judgments are not yet final.”

The law was written to protect freed slaves. By gutting it, everybody essentially became a slave.
 
Given that authorizing the federal government to tax was one of the most significant features of the Constitution, it's hard to see how the 9th Amendment has any application unless you're going to claim that there was some sort of right not to be taxed in 1789, which would be belied by the fact that people were already being taxed by the States. In addition, the 4th Amendment only prohibits unreasonable searches and seizures, and since there's an explicit grant of authority to tax and since enforcement of any tax is necessarily and reasonably going to involve the ability to examine records, the 4th isn't violated solely by the taxing power.

The American Revolutionary war supposedly being over "no taxation without representation" is the biggest con in the history of the world. Great Britain instituted the Stamp Act to pay for the 10,000 British soldiers it left in the colonies after the French and Indian war to keep the peace between the colonists and the indians. They passed the bill for that off on the colonists through various taxes such as the stamp act and the sugar act. But the Brits not only protected the colonists from the indians but they also protected the indians from the colonists by halting westward expansion past the "proclamation line." While this didn't stop all settlers, it did prevent land speculators like Goerge Washington, Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin from taking title to thousands of acres of land on the other side of that line.

See: https://www.neh.gov/humanities/2015... objected to the Stamp,men sent to enforce it.

Then, after the ratification of the U.S. constitution, the federal government put an excise tax on whiskey which disproportionatly affected western farmers. Yet it was justified under the theory that "Well you had representatives in congress."
 
What is Qualified Immunity?
{The Civil Rights Lawyer | 18 March 2022}

I met with a class of high school seniors in Washington DC via Zoom yesterday, who had questions about qualified immunity and about [what] their rights are when interacting with police. It was a fantastic experience and it got me to thinking that every kid should know this information before graduating high school. Though most people have no idea what it really is….

What is Qualified Immunity?

 
IGNORANCE OF THE LAW: A Discussion About Qualified Immunity!
{Southern Drawl Law | 08 April 2025}

In this video, Criminal Defense Attorney James White, discusses the double standards in the legal system regarding law enforcement and the concept of qualified immunity. It discusses how police officers are often shielded from accountability for misconduct through legal doctrines like good faith and objective reasonableness, which create barriers for civil rights plaintiffs. The discussion includes landmark cases that illustrate these principles and critiques the systemic issues that protect law enforcement at the expense of citizens' rights.

Takeaways:
  1. Ignorance of the law is a foundational idea in our legal system.
  2. Law enforcement is held to a different standard than civilians.
  3. Qualified immunity protects officers from civil liability.
  4. Good faith is often used as a shield for police misconduct.
  5. Objective reasonableness shifts focus from rights violations to officer beliefs.
  6. The good faith exception allows unlawfully obtained evidence in court.
  7. Landmark cases like Leon and Hyand illustrate the good faith exception.
  8. The Fourth Amendment protections are conditional for citizens.
  9. The legal system creates barriers for civil rights plaintiffs.
  10. The system is built to protect law enforcement from accountability.
Chapters

00:00 - Ignorance of the Law: A Double Standard
01:37 - Qualified Immunity: The Shield for Police Misconduct
03:18 - Objective Reasonableness: The Fictional Officer Standard
05:32 - The Good Faith Exception: Evidence and Accountability
05:56 - Case Study: US v. Leon (1984)
07:08 - Case Study: Heien v. North Carolina (2014)
10:13 - Closing Argument

 
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IGNORANCE OF THE LAW: A Discussion About Qualified Immunity!
{Southern Drawl Law | 08 April 2025}

In this video, Criminal Defense Attorney James White, discusses the double standards in the legal system regarding law enforcement and the concept of qualified immunity. It discusses how police officers are often shielded from accountability for misconduct through legal doctrines like good faith and objective reasonableness, which create barriers for civil rights plaintiffs. The discussion includes landmark cases that illustrate these principles and critiques the systemic issues that protect law enforcement at the expense of citizens' rights.

Takeaways:
  1. Ignorance of the law is a foundational idea in our legal system.
  2. Law enforcement is held to a different standard than civilians.
  3. Qualified immunity protects officers from civil liability.
  4. Good faith is often used as a shield for police misconduct.
  5. Objective reasonableness shifts focus from rights violations to officer beliefs.
  6. The good faith exception allows unlawfully obtained evidence in court.
  7. Landmark cases like Leon and Hyand illustrate the good faith exception.
  8. The Fourth Amendment protections are conditional for citizens.
  9. The legal system creates barriers for civil rights plaintiffs.
  10. The system is built to protect law enforcement from accountability.
Chapters
00:00 - Ignorance of the Law: A Double Standard​
01:37 - Qualified Immunity: The Shield for Police Misconduct​
03:18 - Objective Reasonableness: The Fictional Officer Standard​
05:32 - The Good Faith Exception: Evidence and Accountability​
05:56 - Case Study: US v. Leon (1984)​
07:08 - Case Study: Heien v. North Carolina (2014)​
10:13 - Closing Argument​



Ignorance of the law isn't an excuse... unless your job is to literally know the law and then ignorance is fine.
 
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