QAnon is Tearing Families Apart

[devil21]

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Q has people diving deeper than they ever would have without him.

If you say so. I visit sites where there are pockets of Q followers and from what I see they're still firmly planted on the Orange Man Good/45D chess plantation. If someone still hasn't progressed past that rudimentary level of understanding then I can't take seriously that any of them have dove any deeper on their own.

 

[Swordsmyth]

If you say so. I visit sites where there are pockets of Q followers and from what I see they're still firmly planted on the Orange Man Good/45D chess plantation. If someone still hasn't progressed past that rudimentary level of understanding then I can't take seriously that any of them have dove any deeper on their own.

So what you are saying is that TDS is the only "truth" and no other "truth" matters?

 

[devil21]

So what you are saying is that TDS is the only "truth" and no other "truth" matters?

And there you go, right back to manufactured slogans designed to shut off critical thinking and true deeper diving, while you at the same time ironically claim to support deeper diving thanks to Q. It's no different than calling someone a racist or anti-semite or tinfoil hatter to shut them down. Standard Alinsky tactic. You'd be more convincing if you didn't employ the exact same tactics that anti-CT mouthpieces use to shut down CT talk, in order to shut down suggestions that Trump is fully controlled also, which would lead to deeper diving.

 

[JoshLowry]

November 2017 is definitely not the start.

https://qposts.online/post/1

https://qposts.online/post/15

Q already had to explain failed predictions by the time he made your post.

Also, you left out the context of the post that you linked. It was a response to this:

The person who Q was responding to was kind enough to both point out a connection between a random event and a previous Q post, and also provide a potential re-interpretation / correction of that post which would make it (sort of) make sense. Q latched on to that to agree to it.

Here's the original post:

https://qposts.online/post/15

What Q was agreeing with, in saying that disinformation is real and distractions are necessary, is that the Saudi royal family had been taken out.

Had they? Have they?

I see your point on timing and context, thanks for detailed response. I still find the overall message and campaign to be one that is net positive.

It's apparent why we need movements like Qanon to exist. We don't necessarily need Q or to have faith in them, but we do need to be fighting tooth and nail against the establishment and the media. Q accomplishes both of these goals, and you don't have to be a blind follower of theirs to see that. There are plenty of other useful YouTube channels out there that expose truth like Tim Pool, Jimmy Dore, and even Joe Rogan, but these people are also often wrong, especially in their political ideologies. It doesn't mean we need to be purity absolutists and disavow because they said one or many things that are invalid or incorrect, we can support truth in the places where they shine it and condemn lies and deceit when it exists as well.

Q is not destroying families. The establishment and banker elites are and have been since before we were born. The focus needs to be there. Threads like this are attempts to distract from what we all know is the real fight.

To the people going after Q, where were you in the Ron Paul campaign years? We are fighting the exact same thing and trying to search for truth, which is precisely what Ron Paul always and will stand for. Seems like a waste of time to spend energy attacking a movement like this searching for truth when we have so many bigger problems, like a small group of wealthy people that are trying to control every single aspect of our lives. It would be no different than going after 9/11 truthers during the RP years. Many of those people joined the movement, and no one questioned them and said they are bad for society, now we have plenty of libertarians questioning people with almost the exact same goals as those truthers, because the new truth movement is associated with Trump. The transparency on the behavior change is striking and people aren't buying it.

Lots of good points made, thanks!

 

[James_Madison_Lives]

From the Post article:

When this person spoke to The Post last month, his mother hadn’t left the house in 16 weeks because she refused to wear a mask after watching the viral “Plandemic” conspiracy video, which made the false claim that billionaires aided in the spread of the coronavirus to further the usage of vaccines and made the baseless and dangerous assertion that wearing masks is harmful.

Mikovits of Plandemic has never been discredtied, only smeared. Funny the Post never cites that big-time conspiracy magazine, Newsweek:

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/1557...-of-us-dollars-for-risky-coronavirus-research

Newsweek: Dr. Fauci Backed Controversial Wuhan Lab with Millions of U.S. Dollars for Risky Coronavirus Research

Dr. Anthony Fauci, a member of the coronavirus task force, has been called the top physician and immunologist in the country. One poll indicates that Americans trust Fauci more than the president on the coronavirus pandemic.

But just last year, the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases, the organization led by Dr. Fauci, funded scientists at the Wuhan Institute of Virology and other institutions for work on gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses.

In 2019, with the backing of NIAID, the National Institutes of Health committed $3.7 million over six years for research that included some gain-of-function work. The program followed another $3.7 million, 5-year project for collecting and studying bat coronaviruses, which ended in 2019, bringing the total to $7.4 million.

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Gain of function research involves manipulating viruses in the lab to explore their potential for infecting humans. Many scientists have criticized the research because it creates a risk of starting a pandemic from accidental release.

SARS-CoV-2 , the virus now causing a global pandemic, is believed to have originated in bats. U.S. intelligence originally asserted that the coronavirus had occurred naturally. However, it conceded last month that the pandemic may have originated in a leak from the Wuhan lab. (At this point most scientists say it’s possible—but not likely—that the pandemic virus was engineered or manipulated.)

Dr. Fauci did not respond to Newsweek’s requests for comment. NIH responded with a statement that said in part:

“Most emerging human viruses come from wildlife, and these represent a significant threat to public health and biosecurity in the U.S. and globally, as demonstrated by the SARS epidemic of 2002-03, and the current COVID-19 pandemic…. scientific research indicates that there is no evidence that suggests the virus was created in a laboratory.”

The NIH research consisted of two parts. The first part got underway in 2014 and involved surveillance of bat coronaviruses, and had a budget of $3.7 million. Part one funded Shi Zheng-Li, a virologist at the Wuhan lab named, along with other researchers. They were tasked with investigating and cataloging bat coronaviruses in the wild. Phase one was completed in 2019....

The work in question was a type of gain-of-function research that involved taking wild viruses and passing them through live animals until they mutate into a form that could pose a pandemic threat. Scientists used it to take a virus that was poorly transmitted among humans and make it into one that was highly transmissible—a hallmark of a pandemic virus. This work was done by infecting a series of ferrets, allowing the virus to mutate until a ferret that hadn’t been deliberately infected contracted the disease.

The work entailed risks that worried even seasoned researchers. More than 200 scientists called for the work to be halted. The problem, they said, is that it increased the likelihood that a pandemic would occur through a laboratory accident.

Dr. Fauci defended the work,

 

[Swordsmyth]

And there you go, right back to manufactured slogans designed to shut off critical thinking and true deeper diving,

That is your stock in trade and what you are engaged in here, You are not the first person I have run into spouting the "Q is a distraction to keep us from doing what we should be doing" line even as Q wakes people up who were completely asleep and gets people to dive deeper than they ever did before while also failing to explain what it is we are being distracted from doing.

while you at the same time ironically claim to support deeper diving thanks to Q. It's no different than calling someone a racist or anti-semite or tinfoil hatter to shut them down. Standard Alinsky tactic. You'd be more convincing if you didn't employ the exact same tactics that anti-CT mouthpieces use to shut down CT talk, in order to shut down suggestions that Trump is fully controlled also, which would lead to deeper diving.

Trump is clearly NOT fully controlled also and the people who claim he is are trying to shut people down and keep them from doing anything.

You can project all you want but people can see that Q doesn't prevent anyone from talking about anything but you try to.

 

[devil21]

All of that is totally wrong.

George Soros and the Rothschilds are REAL PEOPLE.

Interesting theory you have - the only bad people who should be stopped are competely invisible and you can't find them.

Yes, there is a certain amount of inevitability to all this. It pains me to admit it, but yes. But people continue to participate in the global mindfuck by consenting to rigged elections, lending legitimacy to the illusion of money (even as it becomes more openly illusory by the day), hanging on the words of some dumb Congresscritter, buying the next iPhone, or whatever other actions that contribute to the continuation of it. All of it voluntary.

Soros lives in Westchester County, New York. These aren't fake people.

Care to share an address? Not fake, per se, but not obtainable either. That's how limited hang-outs work. A small amount of correct information is revealed while hiding the much bigger information, even as the "hidden" is actually in plain sight, such as CFR office addresses.

Soros is a TERRORIST and he should be treated by the US Government like they should be dealing with TERRORISTS.

Not wrong but irrelevant since it's not going to happen. A fundamental misunderstanding is that there is no government. There is a corporation that provides government-like services. Is anyone forcing us to interact with this corporation? NO.

Rothschild has been around, super famous and super rich for 200 years. You're talking about organizations that have people in them, those organizations are bad, sure, and you should include Bilderberg in there as well, but there are Billionaires, there really are, who are funding the awfulness.

The illusion of money is more powerful than money itself. Think about that for a moment.

Who owns the Fed? We never really got the answer to that. I think that we can all say that the big big owners of the Fed are the bad guys. I'd say Rothschild owns the Fed.

At the basic level, the shareholders of the Fed are the member banks themselves. The actual "owners" of the Fed are rumored to be really old Italian banking families descended from original Phoenecian bloodlines.

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That is your stock in trade and what you are engaged in here, You are not the first person I have run into spouting the "Q is a distraction to keep us from doing what we should be doing" line even as Q wakes people up who were completely asleep and gets people to dive deeper than they ever did before while also failing to explain what it is we are being distracted from doing.

Yeah yeah, just as long as they don't dive any deeper than Orange Man Good, AOC bad, pesky mean Dems, etc.

Trump is clearly NOT fully controlled also and the people who claim he is are trying to shut people down and keep them from doing anything.

Riiiiight. Don't forget to take the vaccine....err wait it's now an "antibody therapy", thanks to his fake illness, isn't it?

 

[Swordsmyth]

I see your point on timing and context, thanks for detailed response. I still find the overall message and campaign to be one that is net positive.

It is not really relevant when Q said Disinformation is necessary, nobody is going to listen to you if you start out by telling them that and it is clearly necessary, the enemy can read Q just as easily as the public and certainly does.

Q doesn't exist to spoon feed us the exact plan for defeating the enemy, Q exists to drop clues and general guidance to get people to think and research for themselves.

 

[JoshLowry]

Trump is clearly NOT fully controlled also and the people who claim he is are trying to shut people down and keep them from doing anything.

This makes me second guess a statement like that.

https://twitter.com/JuliansRum/status/1309538180656435201

Maybe I'm misreading Trump's body language here or things have changed since then...

The tree that Macron planted isn't there anymore, so that's probably good.

 

[Swordsmyth]

"QAnon is Tearing Families Apart"

Truth has a way of dividing people, those who promote unity as an end unto itself are not to be trusted.

[h=3]Luke
Chapter 12[/h]51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
52 For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.
53 The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.



[h=3]Matthew
Chapter 10[/h]34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

 

[Swordsmyth]

This makes me second guess a statement like that.

https://twitter.com/JuliansRum/status/1309538180656435201

Maybe I'm misreading body language here or things have changed since then...

The tree that Macron planted isn't there anymore, so that's probably good.

Trump is clearly not happy there.

And Trump has done too much that the cabal would never want done to be fully controlled, he has to cooperate with some things for diplomacy and for politics but he dissents on a lot of important things.

 

[TheCount]

I see your point on timing and context, thanks for detailed response. I still find the overall message and campaign to be one that is net positive.

I don't see an eager anticipation of the unconstitutional detention, trial, and execution of Americans to be any kind of a "net positive."

 

[James Otis Jr.]

Nobody who trusts WaPo has any credibility in describing anything.

I believe this is the same original poster that wants Chris Wallace to be president.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Yeah yeah, just as long as they don't dive any deeper than Orange Man Good, AOC bad, pesky mean Dems, etc.



Riiiiight. Don't forget to take the vaccine....err wait it's now an "antibody therapy", thanks to his fake illness, isn't it?

Further proof you know nothing about Q or pretend not to.

The Q community dives far deeper than you portray, you just won't be happy unless they turn on Trump which they have no real reason to do.
And the Q community is probably one of the most concentrated centers of vaccine skeptics and Flu hoax awareness, Q has repeatedly emphasized that the Flu is being manipulated to affect the election and impose tyranny.

And there is a big difference between antobody therapy and a vaccine but Q has never promoted either, Q has promoted Hydroxychlorquine and other cheap old cures.

 

[JoshLowry]

I don't see an eager anticipation of the unconstitutional detention, trial, and execution of Americans to be any kind of a "net positive."

That's not what I am referring to as net positive. More so the points in Champs post that I quoted.

The US detains and executes unconstitutionally all around the world. This is what we have been protesting.

 

[Swordsmyth]

I don't see an eager anticipation of the unconstitutional detention, trial, and execution of Americans to be any kind of a "net positive."

Too bad it isn't going to be unconstitutional.

 

[TheCount]

The US detains and executes unconstitutionally all around the world. This is what we have been protesting.

Q doesn't protest that, it celebrates it and wishes for its expansion.

 

[TheCount]

Too bad it isn't going to be unconstitutional.

Okay, dear. Finish your pudding and then tell us all about how to make it constitutional to abduct American citizens, take them to Guantanamo, try them in front of arbitrary commissions, and then summarily execute then.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Q doesn't protest that, it celebrates it and wishes for its expansion.

WRONG.

Okay, dear. Finish your pudding and then tell us all about how to make it constitutional to abduct American citizens, take them to Guantanamo, try them in front of arbitrary commissions, and then summarily execute then.

You arrest them for treason, transport them to a holding facility like any other criminal and give them due process, then you execute them after a fair trial.

 

[devil21]

Once people dig deep enough, a realization takes place. It is all our voluntary actions that continue our own enslavement. Voluntary actions like giving the money value through our collective delusion that it has value. Through our collective delusion that voting for a President matters, when quite clearly all evidence points to it not mattering. Through our continued voluntary purchases of their iPhones and spy tech. Through our continued lending of credibility to media mouthpieces by acting like what they say matters to anyone but them. The list of voluntary actions that further subjugates ourselves goes on and on. The only solution, and indeed the only thing that truly scares them, is when the mass participation in delusion stops. When that occurs, their control mechanisms cease to have any inherent value or power. All of the Soros' in the world can not force you to do anything. Their power lies solely in our actions.