Proposal: Veterans and Active Duty March for Ron Paul

[Adam Kokesh]

I was thinking we could have traditional platoon style "road guards" too with reflective vests.

 

[rblgenius]

Have you made a facebook group yet?

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

I was thinking we could have traditional platoon style "road guards" too with reflective vests.

LOL. I remember having to sprint up to the cross roads and do that shit (and then back into formation...). After long marches having to run in your boots -- ugh. Marine Corps probably had it worse than us Coasties, but it was still a PITA.

 

[AFPVet]

What if a group of veterans could travel to all RP's SC campaign stops, and line up in salute as he walks past to speak at the podium? Too much?

That would be really cool!

 

[Root]

What if a group of veterans could travel to all RP's SC campaign stops, and line up in salute as he walks past to speak at the podium? Too much?

why stop in SC?

 

[AFPVet]

DoD directives matter when you are active duty. They can court martial you for breaking them.

As far as vets, yeah we can do whatever we want except dance or sell lemonade or whatever.

It's not the DOD directives which get you into trouble. It's the ORDER! The UCMJ empowers officers to issue orders. Failure to obey a lawful order is what they can get you on.

 

[RickyJ]

I think this is a great idea, but without much media coverage it won't have much of an effect on the election.

We need a way to make sure people know about this before super Tuesday. A commercial showing part of the march could be shown with a commentator saying why these service men and women are marching for Ron Paul. Using portions of this event in a commercial for the Ron Paul campaign would bypass the media blackout of the event and have a real impact on super Tuesday election results.

 

[Nate-ForLiberty]

I think whomever is calling cadence for the formation would be holding the flag. We would arrive in front of the WH facing west, do a, "PLATOON - HALT" "LEFT FACE" "DRESS RIGHT DRESS" "ABOUT FACE." This would have the formation realigned and facing away from the WH at which point the cadence caller would walk around to the other side of the formation, "PRESENT ARMS" then take a knee with the flag held out in front and hold for the designated length of time, rise, "ORDER ARMS" then walk back around front. "LEFT FACE" "FORWARD MARCH." I would love to have the honor of being the one to execute this (I've always loved close order drill) but if it there is someone else who would be more symbolically appropriate, then it doesn't have to be me. We could also have a different person holding the flag, or something else to salute that would symbolize the fallen troops. I would suggest a field-expedient memorial (helmet, dog tags, rifle, and boots) but even having a rubber rifle in DC is problematic.

I don't know if this idea would be logistically practical, implementable, or even appropriate, but what if there were a group of wives/husbands of soldiers lost since Obama has been in office. They would be in a semi-circle facing the formation of troops. At the center you'll have your flag holder facing the troops. all the wives/husbands put their left hand on the shoulder of the person in front of them (leaving the right hand to go over the heart or holding a picture of their lost loved one).

rough drawing.



Red square is flag holder. Semi-circle is the wives/husbands with their hand on the shoulder of the person in front leading all the way to the flag holder. Vertical lines are the troop formation.


During the march they could be on the flanks of the soldiers' formation, leaving space between the soldiers and civilians to symbolize the separation created by war from those who serve and those who wait for their return.

I dunno. Seems poignant.

 

[eleganz]

I think this is a great idea, but without much media coverage it won't have much of an effect on the election.

We need a way to make sure people know about this before super Tuesday. A commercial showing part of the march could be shown with a commentator saying why these service men and women are marching for Ron Paul. Using portions of this event in a commercial for the Ron Paul campaign would bypass the media blackout of the event and have a real impact on super Tuesday election results.

lol...you don't do something like this and NOT alert the media...

Vets saluting fallen soldiers with their backs faced to the white house...that is tv that the MSM does NOT want to miss.

Americans love this stuff.


I also agree with vets saluting RP's entrance to all events...major credibility, instantly wins the audience and would be reported by the MSM, no doubt.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

I'll help with this if I'm not in session or committee.

 

[RickyJ]

lol...you don't do something like this and NOT alert the media...

Vets saluting fallen soldiers with their backs faced to the white house...that is tv that the MSM does NOT want to miss.

Americans love this stuff.


I also agree with vets saluting RP's entrance to all events...major credibility, instantly wins the audience and would be reported by the MSM, no doubt.

By all means invite them, but you underestimate their ability to blackout events they want to blackout. Sure they may show a very brief snippet from it and talk about it in passing, or even try to make it into something it is not, but they most certainly will not give it favorable coverage.

 

[Zack]

I don't know if it would be practical for me to make it over there from the west coast, but I think this is an important idea.

 

[jacmicwag]

In.

 

[Zack]

By all means invite them, but you underestimate their ability to black out events they want to black out. Sure they may show a very brief snippet from it and talk about it in passing, or even try to make it into something it is not, but they most certainly will not give it favorable coverage.

I don't think there is any real negative points in the event concept, but there is certainly some lack of synergy in the time and place, because while this can easily be blacked out nationally, it's the perfect event to get lots of local chatter from both radio and TV. What I mean is that if this were happening in the one-week window of a primary or caucus, and in the same state of said primary/caucus (where lots of media will be, looking for something to cover), then it would be a heck of a lot harder to ignore than another rally safely tucked away in Washington DC. But wherever/whenever it is, I think this event is not only a good idea, but absolutely essential.

 

[Adam Kokesh]

I don't know if this idea would be logistically practical, implementable, or even appropriate, but what if there were a group of wives/husbands of soldiers lost since Obama has been in office. They would be in a semi-circle facing the formation of troops. At the center you'll have your flag holder facing the troops. all the wives/husbands put their left hand on the shoulder of the person in front of them (leaving the right hand to go over the heart or holding a picture of their lost loved one).

rough drawing.

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Red square is flag holder. Semi-circle is the wives/husbands with their hand on the shoulder of the person in front leading all the way to the flag holder. Vertical lines are the troop formation.


During the march they could be on the flanks of the soldiers' formation, leaving space between the soldiers and civilians to symbolize the separation created by war from those who serve and those who wait for their return.

I dunno. Seems poignant.

OUT-FRIGGIN'-STANDING! I really like the idea of the families receiving the salute, so to speak. I don't think them marching alongside the formation would be practical however. Perhaps a second group of family members of KIA and other family members behind the main formation?

 

[bolil]

The only negative thing that could result would be the MSM beginning to beat the brown shirt drum... It is a gamble. A march like this would certainly resonate like a boulder dropped into a small pond, but HOW would it resonate. While surely it is an event supporting the advent of liberty, the Bill O's of the world will probably start crying storm troopers. or worse. We know they're capable of doing it, twisting the truth. It is good to remember the Bonus March of 1932 also - even in if the parallels now are very loose.

 

[Nate-ForLiberty]

OUT-FRIGGIN'-STANDING! I really like the idea of the families receiving the salute, so to speak. I don't think them marching alongside the formation would be practical however. Perhaps a second group of family members of KIA and other family members behind the main formation?

I wasn't thinking that they would march along side the formation so much as walk with the formation. So if the formation was in the center of the street, the family members would be almost on the sidewalk or something. 10 or 15 feet space between them. But even if they have to follow behind the formation, it will still be good.

 

[David West]

Former Army here. Not sure if it would be possible for me to make it from Oregon but I really like the idea and as my 22nd birthday is February 21, if this is going to be a big enough event to make it worth my while I would definitely see about asking some family and friends to help me out with airfare as a birthday present.

 

[jason43]

It's not the DOD directives which get you into trouble. It's the ORDER! The UCMJ empowers officers to issue orders. Failure to obey a lawful order is what they can get you on.

Go violate a DoD directive and see how fast someone comes out showing you it's an order and puts the hammer down. *just saying

 

[raystone]

Former Army here. Not sure if it would be possible for me to make it from Oregon but I really like the idea and as my 22nd birthday is February 21, if this is going to be a big enough event to make it worth my while I would definitely see about asking some family and friends to help me out with airfare as a birthday present.

One of the best 1st posts ! +rep