Pro-Paul super PAC pumps $1.4M into Florida ads

[low preference guy]

Wtf is this Pac anyway?

informally, an organization that can run political ads with unlimited contributions. since you can donate up to $2,300 to a campaign, one could only use the rest of one's money through a PAC.

why can you donate to a PAC without limits but not to a campaign? cause the law is f up.

 

[eleganz]

You guys are talking about complete waste.

How about instead of complaining on the forums...

YOU SEND THEM AN EMAIL OR CALL THEM:

http://www.endorseliberty.com/home.php


BE EFFECTIVE.



[email protected]

Endorse Liberty
1625 Sunset Oaks Dr.
Salt Lake City, UT 84018

 

[sailingaway]

I know its probably a waste of money but a second there is better than a fourth for the media coverage.. slipping in fourth in numerous states will further make ron irrelevent to the race

It won't be second, I don't think. Gingrich will get a bump of cash and spend most of it there. But it might keep Ron in third. He still has to prioritize his time and he is trying to get a jump on the others in later states.

If he does third without campaigning there, essentially, that will be pretty good!

 

[Diurdi]

informally, an organization that can run political ads with unlimited contributions. since you can donate up to $2,300 to a campaign, one could only use the rest of one's money through a PAC.

why can you donate to a PAC without limits but not to a campaign? cause the law is f up.

Sorry, I should've been more clear.

I know what a SuperPac is, I was just curious who was behind this one.

 

[seawolf]

I am so happy for all of the hard working Florida Ron Paul Grassroots Volunteers and Supporters who had been working all by themselves with no Campaign Presence or Paid Staff.

At least the Endorse Liberty Super Pac has come in to support them and Ron Paul in the Sunshine State.

Neverseen must be very pleased by this thread.

 

[bluesc]

Sorry, I should've been more clear.

I know what a SuperPac is, I was just curious who was behind this one.

Some dudes in Florida. The Florida Grassroots are aware of who runs it. One of the guys behind it was at the opening of a grassroots office. That's all I know.

 

[WD-NY]

Why?

They should focus on NV. MINN. MAINE COLORADO etc....

Great that they r doing it, but misplaced.

Because a 4th in FL will be devastating to the campaign's efforts in NV, ME, CO, MN, etc.

 

[Diurdi]

Some dudes in Florida. The Florida Grassroots are aware of who runs it. One of the guys behind it was at the opening of a grassroots office. That's all I know.

"Some dudes" that are able to dish out millions. Hope they're not in the business of logistics by Speedboats between South America and the US

 

[tsetsefly]

This is great, a 3rd place finish in Florida would be great!

 

[KingNothing]

If this gets Ron 3rd in Florida without even campaigning there, that is a huge kick in the newts to Santorum. If Rick finishes last in Florida his campaign might be doomed.

 

[UK4Paul]

It is NOT a waste. They are NOT idiots.

(1) It may make the difference between 3rd and 4th place, which is significant for perception (i.e. NOT last).

(2) A $1.4m media spend gets media attention.

(3) It's their cash. Maybe $1.4m is chickenfeed to them. Maybe they have MORE money lined up for the states where Ron is more likely to win. (Here's to hoping, anyway )

Either way, I think calling a group of people who wish to spend $1.4m on Ron Paul "idiots"... is, ummm, counterproductive to put it nicely.

 

[Epic]

So far, the super PAC has spent more than $3.1 million in the campaign, according to records compiled by the non-partisan Center for Responsive Politics.

Wait, we got 3.1 million.... where did this go?

You better not say South Carolina...

The focus needs to be Nevada, Maine, Minnesota, and Colorado.

 

[bluesc]

Wait, we got 3.1 million.... where did this go?

You better not say South Carolina...

The focus needs to be Nevada, Maine, Minnesota, and Colorado.

Targeting Iowa and FL, mostly with online ads. If you want to see the expenses in detail: http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/indexpend.php?cmte=C00508002&cycle=2012

 

[Lord Xar]

It is NOT a waste. They are NOT idiots.

(1) It may make the difference between 3rd and 4th place, which is significant for perception (i.e. NOT last).

(2) A $1.4m media spend gets media attention.

(3) It's their cash. Maybe $1.4m is chickenfeed to them. Maybe they have MORE money lined up for the states where Ron is more likely to win. (Here's to hoping, anyway )

Either way, I think calling a group of people who wish to spend $1.4m on Ron Paul "idiots"... is, ummm, counterproductive to put it nicely.

You are probably correct. Perception, so far, has been everything in this race. So the perception of "not last" probably carries with it a huge amount of validity.

Though, I do not have faith in "florida elections", just ask Kerry.

But good on the SuperPac for doing this. I will not look a gift horse in the mouth. Every bit, helps!

 

[Epic]

Their focus on online activities is just bizarre IMO

Ron Paul already has the web-savvy people.

It's good that the FL advertising is TV and Radio. That's what we need to get old republicans.

 

[Austin]

It`s also important to keep the momentum going and avoid the perception Paul is not a top tier candidate. So it`s not all about the delegates. People`s perception is also very important.

Indeed. I think completely ignoring Florida is a bad strategy. If we have no momentum heading into NV, CO, ME, and WA... no amount of top-tier organization can save us.

 

[Epic]

We might be able to eke out a 10-9 victory over Santorum. That would be okay. Give us some Nevada momentum.

Also, Santorum might drop out like Perry in days leading up to FL.

 

[Lord Xar]

Targeting Iowa and FL, mostly with online ads. If you want to see the expenses in detail: http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/indexpend.php?cmte=C00508002&cycle=2012

We need to bring over more of the middle - older aged persons. They don't get online. Radio/TV, seems to be the way to go. And they are the more reliable voters, but again - we've been turning out the young/indy vote.

 

[sailingaway]

I hope it's social security and electibility, and yes, I will send them an email on that.

 

[low preference guy]

It is NOT a waste. They are NOT idiots.

(1) It may make the difference between 3rd and 4th place, which is significant for perception (i.e. NOT last).

(2) A $1.4m media spend gets media attention.

(3) It's their cash. Maybe $1.4m is chickenfeed to them. Maybe they have MORE money lined up for the states where Ron is more likely to win. (Here's to hoping, anyway )

Either way, I think calling a group of people who wish to spend $1.4m on Ron Paul "idiots"... is, ummm, counterproductive to put it nicely.

(4) Running ads where the campaign is running ads might mess up the campaign strategy

(5) This can a test for the effectiveness of these ads and the campaign might learn something useful to implement in other states.