Pro Life / Pro Family Handouts

[NoMoreApathy]

If any election laws were broken, we're going to have to start filing lawsuits. This is getting ridiculous. I thought we lived in America, the beacon of democracy, and not some third world Latin American banana republic. Christ, even Hugo Chavez's Venezuela is starting to look like it holds elections with greater integrity than what I am seeing in this primaries/caucuses.

I strongly doubt they would use such a blatant and open tactic if it weren't legal.

 

[Paul.Bearer.of.Injustice]

This is only the beginning of the chicanery.

In strong Ron Paul states, I bet some candidates will take themselves off the ballot so someone else can get 51%.

And stop saying we were outsmarted. If I shoot you in the head, have I 'outsmarted' you?

 

[mosquitobite]

Right. 51% for us?

We can't even break 15%. That's why I asked the question to begin with.

It sounds nice to HEAR that, but let's be reasonable. If we get 51% in ANY state, obviously we'll win that state.

I'd be absolutely dumbfounded if we got that number. We're fighting the establishment here. It's like we're the Miami Dolphins 3rd string playing against the New England Patriots 1st string, in New England, 5 degrees and snowing.

No one has broken the 50% threshold in any state except Romney in Nevada.

The idea being that since none of the Republican candidates would get 51%, if we had gotten enough Ron Paul delegates elected, Ron Paul would be the LA nominee. That's why the GOP moved to stop us.

If Huckabee got 40% for example, it wouldn't matter that he won the primary if the Ron Paul delegates were the ones going to the convention.

 

[Technics2000]

Found this article talking about a couple of these pro-family groups.

http://www.christianpost.com/article/20080111/30813_Pro-Family_Groups_Blast_Obama_as_'Extremely_Liberal'.htm

Besides Obama and Clinton, the FOTF analysis also criticized New Hampshire Republican winner Sen. John McCain for being difficult to work with. Although McCain was praised for being “pretty good” on the pro-life issue, he was criticized for opposing President Bush’s policy that restricted embryonic stem cell research.

The family values leaders also did not like McCain’s stance on the federal marriage amendment, which they said has been their top issue for the past several years. McCain supports giving states the right to define marriage rather than a constitutional amendment that would set the definition of marriage as the union between a man and a woman in all 50 states.

Meanwhile, the pro-family leaders praised Republicans Mike Huckabee and Mitt Romney for sharing the same social values.

 

[werdd]

Found this article talking about a couple of these pro-family groups.

http://www.christianpost.com/article/20080111/30813_Pro-Family_Groups_Blast_Obama_as_'Extremely_Liberal'.htm

They also advertised rudy as pro-life, i think we could take the bastards to court for fraud.

 

[Technics2000]

Some more insteresting stuff. A lil outdated

http://www.albionmonitor.com/12-21-95/stealthstrategy.html

 

[Joe3113]

This is only the beginning of the chicanery.

In strong Ron Paul states, I bet some candidates will take themselves off the ballot so someone else can get 51%.

And stop saying we were outsmarted. If I shoot you in the head, have I 'outsmarted' you?

After reading all the stuff about LA, I think we have less chance of winning the Republican nomination, than winning the presidency via 3rd party.

 

[Dutch_in_Hanoi]

What a stunt..

I knew that the electoral process in the USA was a media circus and far from perfect but this is simply ridiculous. My god.. What a democracy you guys have. Seriously, if you ever do get the nomination and win the presidency (This time around or the next) than it's time for some fundamental changes in the system..

The Dutch system sure is a heck of a lot more fair.. Even the system in Vietnam (where I'm working at the moment) doesn't seem much worse.

This move might have been legal but it shouldn't be.

 

[Rex]

Update:

I went up there (to the LAGOP office) and saw Matt Chancey sitting there (RP person). We chatted for a minute. I got to talk to Matt some guy in Leadership there.

He was basically very vague and said he had “no knowledge” of the LAGOP paying for this. Which is the direct opposite of what GatorWorks told me. Then alluded to some people that were very respected former members of the LAGOP paying for this. And he wouldn’t tell me who paid for it. He also tried to tell me that these were “un-committed” voters which is a lie b/c I questioned him about if I go look at the donor lists what would I see. He basically froze.

I’ve got a another call into GatoWorks and am going to put them on the spot.

I also told guy he could just be upfront with me and we could get this over or I would go digging but I got nothing but time and money to spend finding corruption.

I was not mean and I was not loud but he could obviously sense my frustration. Also when I first got their somebody was calling in about the same thing and he seemed really pissed.

 

[i2ambler]

After reading all the stuff about LA, I think we have less chance of winning the Republican nomination, than winning the presidency via 3rd party.

Look, lets get this straight. The republican party does not want Ron Paul to win, period. They will do anything and everything to keep Ron Paul from winning the nomination. Im not a troll - that is just an obvious fact. Who do you think is running the republican party? A bunch of false conservatives who profit from war. The largest pro-war individuals are the ones who are making the most money from it. If you think these greedy people are going to allow an anti-war TRUE republican candidate infiltrate the stronghold they have been building for the last 7 years, and take away their money-tit you are sadly mistaken.

When people say 'Oh, but people are waking up!' Yes, they are.. but not nearly enough of them are waking up - and when this election cycle is over how many are going to go back to sleep? How many people out there wont vote for Ron Paul because he is "unelectable" even though they love his stances? Do you know why he is "unelectable"? Because the GOP does not want him! It wont matter if Jesus Christ himself came down and bitchslapped Mike Huckabee and endorsed Ron Paul - the GOP would ignore it, and find a way to turn it to their benefit. Sorry, people, politics is a nasty - dirty business run by people with money on the line. They will do whatever they can to make sure that money wont dry up.

You do realize that some states have rules in place that make it almost impossible for someone who has previously run while affiliated with a party on their ballot can not return in the general as a 3rd party on the same ballot. That means - that if RP gets on every ballot as a republican this year, he will NOT be able to run as a 3rd party candidate with any hope of success.

 

[Rex]

Update Again:

I alerted the Official RP Campaign and they were very interested in this!

 

[szczebrzeszyn]

Keep digging Rex, thanks!

 

[Technics2000]

Update:

I went up there (to the LAGOP office) and saw Matt Chancey sitting there (RP person). We chatted for a minute. I got to talk to Matt some guy in Leadership there.

He was basically very vague and said he had “no knowledge” of the LAGOP paying for this. Which is the direct opposite of what GatorWorks told me. Then alluded to some people that were very respected former members of the LAGOP paying for this. And he wouldn’t tell me who paid for it. He also tried to tell me that these were “un-committed” voters which is a lie b/c I questioned him about if I go look at the donor lists what would I see. He basically froze.

I’ve got a another call into GatoWorks and am going to put them on the spot.

I also told guy he could just be upfront with me and we could get this over or I would go digging but I got nothing but time and money to spend finding corruption.

I was not mean and I was not loud but he could obviously sense my frustration. Also when I first got their somebody was calling in about the same thing and he seemed really pissed.

You should try to record the conversation this time, but I wouldn't be surprised if they conveniently changed their answer.

 

[Rex]

I brought my camera but I think LA is a place where you can't record without permission..

 

[Technics2000]

I meant when you call gatorworks.

 

[Rex]

I dare him to try and lie to me now. I will be at their office so fast...

 

[Highstreet]

It makes me not even want to be apart of the Republican party anymore

You are in the thick of it now.

This is the where you leave and stay clean, or win and get dirty.

Thanks for doing research on who funded this. Please get the contact and confirmation info to your Meetup group leader or State Coordinator.

 

[speciallyblend]

can we possibly threaten to pul out of the republican party IN MASS?? and just say scrwe the gop now??

 

[jabrownie]

I called the people who made the handout GatorWorks here in Baton Rouge and questioned whether they paid for it or not and Brian there said no the LAGOP / Republican Party of LA did..

Document/Record it or it never happened.....seriously dude

 

[Rex]

UPDATE:

I got a call back from GatorWorks.

Now they are apologizing and said that the LAGOP didn't pay them for this. He claimed some guy named Charlie Davis did. But may or may not have been invoiced yet (haha). He was a nice guy but now it just seems even more fishy. And of course he said the LAGOP didn't contact him about this yet....