Pro-Life or Pro-Choice?

[Fox McCloud]

Are there any pro-life agnostic atheists in existence?

http://www.godlessprolifers.org/home.html

 

[The_Orlonater]

Strogly pro-choice.
I don't believe in any god damn totalitarian state should tell a women what to do with her fertility.

 

[Conza88]

Strongly don't give a ---- aye...

lol. Divisive issue, an is constantly promoted to cause division.

 

[youngbuck]

Pro-LIFE

 

[kojirodensetsu]

I agree with spiderman. I feel that the right to life is stronger than the right to one's body. One pro-choice argument is that a woman shouldn't have to be forced to have a baby inside her. However nobody is forced to have sex (unless it's rape, which then I could understand someone getting an abortion). If you don't want a baby use a condom.

Though people will never really change their mind about being pro-choice or pro-life because this is philosophical difference not based on facts. So it should be decided by the states.

 

[Truth Warrior]

Whose DNA does the zygote/embryo/fetus/baby have?

 

[leipo]

Pro-Abortion.

 

[Truth Warrior]

How come only and ALL of the Pro Abortion folks weren't aborted?

 

[leipo]

How come only and ALL of the Pro Abortion folks weren't aborted?

Because you can't create yourself.

 

[Kade]

How come only and ALL of the Pro Abortion folks weren't aborted?

What a stupid question. Seriously you old fart, your inanity is getting tiring.

 

[Truth Warrior]

For those so concerned about women's rights, aren't about half of those aborted female?

 

[Cinderella]

pro birth control

 

[Truth Warrior]

Pro individual personal responsibility AND accountability for sexual behavior.

 

[cheapseats]

Pro individual personal responsibility AND accountability for sexual behavior.

It would follow, then, that your support can be relied upon for a drive to criminalize infidelity?

Infidelity causes pregnancies that are unwanted on at least some points of the triangle. Plus, infidelity is highly destabilizing to existing families wherein existing children want protection from emotional/psychological harm as well as from physical abuse.

What would be appropriate punishment, do you think? It will have to be more than fines...respect for Life has no price.

 

[Truth Warrior]

It would follow, then, that your support can be relied upon for a drive to criminalize infidelity?

Infidelity causes pregnancies that are unwanted on at least some points of the triangle. Plus, infidelity is highly destabilizing to existing families wherein existing children want protection from emotional/psychological harm as well as from physical abuse.

What would be appropriate punishment, do you think? It will have to be more than fines...respect for Life has no price.

That does not follow AT ALL from what I ACTUALLY wrote.

 

[cheapseats]

That does not follow AT ALL from what I ACTUALLY wrote.

It absolutely does.

 

[cheapseats]

The notion that every life is a sacred gift from God is part of a larger construct wherein all manner of life…the beginning, the middle and the end thereof…is according to the will of God. Focus, for a moment, on the end. Pro-life reasoning renders ungodly those medical practices which extend a life span contrary to the natural course of conditions God has clearly elected to visit upon the human form. Chemotherapy, appendectomy, bypass surgery, pacemakers, to name but a few. The notion that a fetus, pre-early-life as it were, is equally a child of God implies that preventative interference to guard against such future complications and terminations of life as God may have planned for the human are also ungodly. Polio, chicken pox, rubella, measles, whooping cough and Hepatitis vaccines, for instance.

To suggest that insanity and/or selfishness are the only reasons one might not want a child is both accusatory and judgmental. To stand as accuser and judge is, of course, the casting of stones that the Bible has expressly forbidden.

Just one example of not wanting an accidental pregnancy to go forward? A couple…properly married in the eyes of God, church and Gladys Kravitz AND practicing not-fool-proof contraception…might wish to have no more than two children out of a conviction that, beyond two children, being themselves outnumbered, each child would not…indeed cannot, if people will be honest…receive all the attention and care to which every child of God is entitled. This couple might further believe that God's instruction, "Be fertile, then, and multiply; abound on earth and subdue it," issued to Noah after a flood that had wiped out the entire population, has already been executed and that to continue to literalize the instruction is either irresponsible with regard to the earth, which God also commanded into man's care, or is transparent justification for wanton fornication.

Speaking of wanton fornication, if Full Rights of Citizenry confer upon a being at conception…a conviction rooted in God specifically or highest morality generally…that makes sex a heady proposition, indeed. I will argue, then, that to sustain the capability for creation when God/Universe/Nature/Life has decreed there shall be none is ALSO subject to regulation. I will argue, then, that Viagra and the whole Erection Past Your Prime industry should be outlawed. Getting those fuckin’ ads off TV will have a deflationary impact on the cost of Legal Drugs, it will decrease the probability that Infidelity-Run-Riot…particularly among the Executive Class…will result in fewer unwanted pregnancies, and it will provide a more wholesome television environment for the children we are so keen on protecting.

I will argue that this is the stuff of Religious and Moral Conviction and, as such, does not appropriately feature in U.S. politics. This Board, of anyone, will recall that our founding fathers…God-fearing men, all, who cite Him deferentially in our framing documents…nevertheless saw it fit and wise to declare a separation of church and state.

BESIDES WHICH, the abortion debate flies in the face of Free Will. God wouldn’t have given it to us if He didn’t intend that we would use it. I’m pretty that these two things feature in determination of the A-List at the Pearly Gates: how we use Free Will…read that, what choices do we make…and how do we handle the shit that goes wrong.

Come Unto Me...that’s how God rolls…not Haul Them In Here, Whether They Like It Or Not.

 

[Truth Warrior]

It absolutely does.

Get a clue! Take YOUR lame and bogus ASSUMPTIONS elsewhere.

 

[cheapseats]

Get a clue! Take YOUR lame and bogus ASSUMPTIONS elsewhere.

In the lame and bogus Libertarian fashion of brooking no thoughts or beliefs that aren't in lockstep with your own?

 

[Truth Warrior]

In the lame and bogus Libertarian fashion of brooking no thoughts or beliefs that aren't in lockstep with their own?

That's NOT the issue AT ALL. Nor am I a "Libertarian".

Hint: Reponse to the literal words and meanings IS the issue.

Bogus "spin" does NOT qualify. It's just BS!