Pro Life group will not endorse Paul because he is an "isolatonist"

My continual bombardment on my dad has worked, he told me today he knows now it is best we get out of Iraq ASAP.

I bascially had him voting for Paul before even with disagreeing on Iraq but he turned a corner today :D
 
How about being pro-life to the 20-year-old fetuses that are fighting and dying for an unjust war?

Educate them on the definition of 'isolationist.'
 
I think the problem may be coming in from the fact that they value unborn American babies more than they value middle-eastern (possibly..GASP!..Muslim) lives. Period. They simply don't equate all human life in the same terms.
 
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Well, if we don't protect the lives of the unborn, then where are we going to get the soldiers to fight in all our future wars, not to mention our 100 year war in Iraq? Nothing hypocritical there. We should want all the babies to be born into a world full or war and then hand them a check for the enormous amount of debt that they will have to pay back from our irresponsible spending. Makes sense.
 
I love how all this censorship is neatly telling us which organizations are nWo controlled. It's really neat!!!

I have to agree with you on this.

For all you who still believe that the Christian groups are stewards of Christianity, I have a bridge to sell you. Ditto the pro-life groups. So, keep trying to convert those people. They are not convertible, because they are controlled by their authoritarian leaders. Romans 13 anyone?
 
That article is from Hillsdale county, MI. That's the county that Ron Paul got nearly 17% in the primary.
 
That article is from Hillsdale county, MI. That's the county that Ron Paul got nearly 17% in the primary.

I was just in the process of making a reply concerning this. Hillsdale county is home of one of the most Libertarian Colleges in the country and played a role in the founding of the Repulican Party.

http://www.hillsdale.edu/about/history.asp

Instead of slamming these people and calling them morons and such we need to be trying to get these people to fully endorse RP.
 
This sounds like the anti-war folks that try to push their socialist agenda but use their stance against the war as a front to their real goals.

It appears that this pro-life group is no better...they don't really care about being pro-life.
 
I have to agree with you on this.

For all you who still believe that the Christian groups are stewards of Christianity, I have a bridge to sell you. Ditto the pro-life groups. So, keep trying to convert those people. They are not convertible, because they are controlled by their authoritarian leaders. Romans 13 anyone?

How about you stop acting like Christian people are sheep. Almost my whole church can't stand Huckabee, and they haven't decided who they are voting for. So just stop right there if you are saying that..
 
I don't get it. What does warmongering and maintaining our overseas empire have to do with the wellbeing of unborn children? What sense does it make to save these kids lives if your just gonna cast an enormous debt on them before they breath their first breath of air? If we don't stop this overseas crap our kids will be raised in slavery!

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Everyone of you posters that smear Christians and Pro-life advocates as
a group are shameful. You lump everyone in the same basket as you post your
venom not thinking that there are thousands of Pro-life supporter that support
our good Doctor.

Where do you people get off?
Not all Pro-life advocates are bombing abortion clinics.
It is a miniscule fringe that commit these atrocities.
Yet the major of posts here on this thread have condemned the whole.
You people are bigots. No more different than the KKK.
If you don't like Christianity then try Yoga or Buddhism or Atheism.

You can't. You know why? Because you live your prejudiced made-up
world just like the abortion clinic bombers. Like you they believe
their way is the only way to fix the problem.

Instead of sitting in front of a computer and typing your
hatred towards a segment of society why don't
you try have a dialogue with them. Why don't you try being like Dr. Paul?
You like him so much! Right? Try his methodology.
I really don't care if I get flamed or not.

How would he try to speak to them?

Would he say; "Their minds must be full of sludge. Pity the fools."

How about this one; "They want to blow up people but save fetuses.
I see the consistency of these pro-lifers."


Here is another thoughtful one; "Bunch of morons who's votes are probably bought.
We already have the biggest pro life endorsement."


And how about this well thought out comment;
"but their dying doing the Lord's work!"

Great job team! Glad you all are in agreement!
There are no Pro-life supporters here on this board reading your hatred.

How about sweeping around your own front door for a change.
 
Reach out and kill someone to prove you aren't an isolationist.

What sheep.

I don't get too angry too often- only once on this forum. But I am mad as hell now. I am so tired of the hypocrisy of the pro-life movement in this country. First of all, it OBVIOUSLY isn't a pro-life movement. It is anti-abortion. I am pro-life because:

1) I don't support taking life before it is born. (abortion)

2) I don't support forcing people to end their life after they are born (state sponsored euthanasia)

3) I don't support ending the lives of criminals (Death Penalty)

4) I only support violence in self defense, when the perpetrator has forced you to decide between his life and someone else's life. (The just war doctrine and self defense)

That is what it means to truly be pro-life.

I have heard it said that the only difference between abortion and murder is geography. The same differing characteristic divides invasion/occupation and national security.

EVEN IF WE ACCEPTED IT ALL AS TRUE... fighting them "there" so we don't fight them "here",
who gave us the right to use another nation as our staging ground for a fight against terrorism. If we truly are sustaining this war to pick a fight with al qaeda in Iraq instead of fightinig them here, then we are using the Iraqi people as cannon fodder and we are responsible for the civilians that die in terrorist attacks related to this war.

Isolationist, what fools - what sheep. They wouldn't support Jesus either, he would have been against preemptive war.
 
They just don't understand the different between isolationist and non intervention. The campaign needs to make a point of that next chance it gets for the prolifers I guess. Do they really think that if you are not at war you are an isolationist? Weird. I'm really starting to think people who don't understand these basic terms shouldn't be allowed to vote.
 
Everyone of you posters that smear Christians and Pro-life advocates as
a group are shameful. You lump everyone in the same basket as you post your
venom not thinking that there are thousands of Pro-life supporter that support
our good Doctor.

Where do you people get off?

Um, I'm pro-life so why don't you relax? Nobody's attacking pro-lifers, we are just talking about these foolish people that would rather see babies killed than stop warring overseas.
 
How about you stop acting like Christian people are sheep. Almost my whole church can't stand Huckabee, and they haven't decided who they are voting for. So just stop right there if you are saying that..

Get up in front of them and do a presentation on the New World Order!!! it's in the bible !!!
 
Reach out and kill someone to prove you aren't an isolationist.

What sheep.

I don't get too angry too often- only once on this forum. But I am mad as hell now. I am so tired of the hypocrisy of the pro-life movement in this country. First of all, it OBVIOUSLY isn't a pro-life movement. It is anti-abortion. I am pro-life because:

1) I don't support taking life before it is born. (abortion)

2) I don't support forcing people to end their life after they are born (state sponsored euthanasia)

3) I don't support ending the lives of criminals (Death Penalty)

4) I only support violence in self defense, when the perpetrator has forced you to decide between his life and someone else's life. (The just war doctrine and self defense)

That is what it means to truly be pro-life.

I have heard it said that the only difference between abortion and murder is geography. The same differing characteristic divides invasion/occupation and national security.

EVEN IF WE ACCEPTED IT ALL AS TRUE... fighting them "there" so we don't fight them "here",
who gave us the right to use another nation as our staging ground for a fight against terrorism. If we truly are sustaining this war to pick a fight with al qaeda in Iraq instead of fightinig them here, then we are using the Iraqi people as cannon fodder and we are responsible for the civilians that die in terrorist attacks related to this war.

Isolationist, what fools - what sheep. They wouldn't support Jesus either, he would have been against preemptive war.

Quoted for future reference in my post history :)
 
Yet Paul’s stance on other issues keeps Vear and other local pro–life supporters from fully supporting him, despite the endorsement from McCorvey.

“He’s an outstanding man... If he were not such an isolationist, I’d support him,” she said. “A lot of pro–life people here feel the same way.”


http://www.hillsdale.net/stories/012508/news_20080125022.shtml

Yes, pro-life only means protecting unborn babies. It does not mean protecting the lives of our American soldiers. Got it.

Email them.

http://www.hillsdale.net/contact/editor/

Ask politely to correct it. Have them add that He is Not an Isolationist despite the false label given by many competing candidates. He believes in a Strong National Defense and Trade with as many nations as possible.

And getting out of Iraq is not a "liberal" position, it is a conservative, moderate and independent one too. 70% of America thinks we should get out of Iraq.
 
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