angelatc
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It came into play when you didn't wear a rubber and had sex with a woman who doesn't care about you. Women aren't incubators.
Pro-Choice Supporters?
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It came into play when you didn't wear a rubber and had sex with a woman who doesn't care about you. Women aren't incubators.
WilliamC
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Duh. I'm not disputing this. I'm simply saying that as a man I have little if any say as to whether or not a woman continues a pregnancy. It's their body that has to carry a fetus, not mine. They have the free will to seek an abortion, not I.
What, do you advocate chaining them to a wall so they can't get away?
This is the last issue on my list. I really dont care. I like debating with Pro-Life people tough. Its none of my business what Jane Doe does with her body or her unborn DNA. I will keep living my life the way i have been in the past. The world will keep turning on its axis and we will all be fine. Can you say the same about the foreign policy we are currently in?
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I'm Curious, bkreigh
If it's none of your business what "Jane Doe does with her body or her unborn DNA," then why should it be your business what our U.S. foreign policy has done to other nations in killing their civilians in unconstitutional wars, regulating the oil reserves on their lands through corporate/financial interests, and enforcing U.N. resolutions on them, among other things? If I follow your logic correctly, you shouldn't even care about the personal property of those foreigners.
So, bkreigh, just keep living your life the way you've been in the past, because, as you've put it, "the world will keep turning on its axis and we will all be fine." But then again, if that's true, then why are you a part of this "Ron Paul Revolution" in the first place?
If it's none of your business what "Jane Doe does with her body or her unborn DNA," then why should it be your business what our U.S. foreign policy has done to other nations in killing their civilians in unconstitutional wars, regulating the oil reserves on their lands through corporate/financial interests, and enforcing U.N. resolutions on them, among other things? If I follow your logic correctly, you shouldn't even care about the personal property of those foreigners.
So, bkreigh, just keep living your life the way you've been in the past, because, as you've put it, "the world will keep turning on its axis and we will all be fine." But then again, if that's true, then why are you a part of this "Ron Paul Revolution" in the first place?
I believe every citizen of this country has a say in the matter. Theocrat is exactly right. If you don't feel you have a say in this matter, then why should you have a say in any other matter regarding the welfare of our nation? Even if you feel an issue shouldn't be left up to you, there is no reason to feel as though you can't speak for what you believe is right or wrong.
Personally, my view is that our laws have always protected the innocent. Why should unborn Americans be left unprotected? It is not only our choice, but our duty to protect them. We should always stand for those who don't have a voice.
Personally, my view is that our laws have always protected the innocent. Why should unborn Americans be left unprotected? It is not only our choice, but our duty to protect them. We should always stand for those who don't have a voice.
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Baby I Love You
Hopefully, someday in the distant future, mankind will invent a cool thing called birth control, where people can make love without getting pregnant, and we won't need abortions.
Here is my new Ron Paul pro baby video:
Ron Paul, Baby I Love You
Hopefully, someday in the distant future, mankind will invent a cool thing called birth control, where people can make love without getting pregnant, and we won't need abortions.
Here is my new Ron Paul pro baby video:
Ron Paul, Baby I Love You
Man you pro-life people are something else. I really dont care what if abortion is illegal or not is it that hard to comprehend? I know its hard for some of you to take that as an excuse but i really could give two shits. No matter how i answer your fuckin questions i will get bombarded with more. The thing is every time i have asked a question or two nobody has answered it. Or when they do answer it is with another question. Its a no win situation. Furthermore, you like to put words into my mouth. Just because i couldn't careless what somebody down the street does with their choice now means that i dont care about the personal property of foreigners that our country has demolishied with our money? WHAT THE HELL IS THIS? Are we seriously going to play this game? Lets talk about one subject then do a 180 and talk about something else. And yes the world will keep turning on its axis with or with an unborn baby. With or without peace. With or without Ron Paul. And guess what it will keep turning on its axis with or without human life.
This argument is just like religion. Nobody can win either way. Frankly this is a battle doesnt concern me so i am waiving my white flag in surrender. YOU GUYS WIN!!!! Im done talking about this crap.
I just spent the day block-walking my precinct and there are going to be new Ron Paul signs up in several yards because of it. Hopefully the undecided voters I met will end up leaning toward Dr. Paul. Yes, I support Ron Paul with my time and my money. Yes, I am pro-choice.
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Your Apathy is Arbitrary and Immoral
First of all, you made a claim that you don't care about the issue of murder, which is what abortion is. I find that immoral, to say the least. Secondly, your apathy doesn't comport with what Congressman Paul stands for in supporting and defending life, liberty, and property (You might want to refresh yourself on what he believes here on the principles of life.). Finally, I was simply showing the irrational and hypocritcal conclusions that would proceed from your "logic" in not caring about the murder of innocent babies in the womb. So, let me get this straight in a simple manner, if I understand you correctly. You're against this, but you don't care about this?! I'm sorry, bkreigh, but that just makes no sense to me.
By the way, this topic is not about trying to win an argument nor playing word games to ridicule someone. What we're discussing here is the greatest of all human rights, and it is the right to live and exist on God's earth. If you can't protect life, then everything else falls apart, including liberty and property. Congressman Paul even made this comment to Alan Combs after the first Fox News debate! So, once again, I find your apathy on this issue to be simply immoral. All I want to know is on what basis do you condemn our unconstitutional foreign policy but don't care (are against) about abortion, and how do you justify this conviction of yours by an absolute standard of morality?
First of all, you made a claim that you don't care about the issue of murder, which is what abortion is. I find that immoral, to say the least. Secondly, your apathy doesn't comport with what Congressman Paul stands for in supporting and defending life, liberty, and property (You might want to refresh yourself on what he believes here on the principles of life.). Finally, I was simply showing the irrational and hypocritcal conclusions that would proceed from your "logic" in not caring about the murder of innocent babies in the womb. So, let me get this straight in a simple manner, if I understand you correctly. You're against this, but you don't care about this?! I'm sorry, bkreigh, but that just makes no sense to me.
By the way, this topic is not about trying to win an argument nor playing word games to ridicule someone. What we're discussing here is the greatest of all human rights, and it is the right to live and exist on God's earth. If you can't protect life, then everything else falls apart, including liberty and property. Congressman Paul even made this comment to Alan Combs after the first Fox News debate! So, once again, I find your apathy on this issue to be simply immoral. All I want to know is on what basis do you condemn our unconstitutional foreign policy but don't care (are against) about abortion, and how do you justify this conviction of yours by an absolute standard of morality?
Theo,
1) You find it immoral i dont. I find i immoral to raise a child in an unfit home.
2) i dont have to agree 100% with what RP believes to support him. Like i have said countless times this is last on my list of issues.
3) Im not getting into the foreign policy when we are talking about abortion. Apples and oranges.
4) I never said i was against this. All i said was that i dont care because once again it last on my list of issues.
5) I dont believe in god so pulling the christ card will not work on me.
1) You find it immoral i dont. I find i immoral to raise a child in an unfit home.
2) i dont have to agree 100% with what RP believes to support him. Like i have said countless times this is last on my list of issues.
3) Im not getting into the foreign policy when we are talking about abortion. Apples and oranges.
4) I never said i was against this. All i said was that i dont care because once again it last on my list of issues.
5) I dont believe in god so pulling the christ card will not work on me.
Pro choice here.
I will always be pro choice as long as there are situations that I think are justified (ie. severe defects, would threaten mothers life, or in rape cases). Sorry but no one can convince me that a 13 year old raped by a very close relative should have to continue that pregnancy. That said it is against my morals to have an abortion just because a baby might make things harder financially or because they were too lazy to use protection before.
I will always be pro choice as long as there are situations that I think are justified (ie. severe defects, would threaten mothers life, or in rape cases). Sorry but no one can convince me that a 13 year old raped by a very close relative should have to continue that pregnancy. That said it is against my morals to have an abortion just because a baby might make things harder financially or because they were too lazy to use protection before.
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