Preparing for the PAW (Post Apocalyptic World) ModNote: COPY of original

[Roxi]

Another plus for domestic rabbits is the fact they are the only red meat with 0 chloresterol (or however it is spelled). LOL

No matter what you eat the human body DOES need protein to be able to do hard work. And 'survival' is hard work!

Main thing is that the folks that prepare NOW can do it in some sort of comfort we are used to. The folks that do not will not fare that well, if they survive at all.

almost... ostrich meat is also a red meat and has less than 1% fat, and 0 cholesterol oh but it is soooo bland it almost tastes like nothing... you really have to be a good cook to make it taste good

 

[asgardshill]

almost... ostrich meat is also a red meat and has less than 1% fat, and 0 cholesterol oh but it is soooo bland it almost tastes like nothing... you really have to be a good cook to make it taste good

Give me a fast baster and some Tony Chachere's, for I intend to go in harm's way ...

I've never tasted ostrich although I've had just about every other kind of meat on the planet. Some is even sold by the corner butcher ...

 

[christagious]

Hey Gunny, is this thread finished or do you have more you're planning on adding?

 

[tmosley]

Wow, this is an awesome thread. I can't believe I never saw it before.

I'll throw in my two cents. For water purification, you can simply use a bit of charcoal from the fire and a rag. Crumble the charcoal into the rag and run your water through it a few times and it will be just as good as the most expensive bottled water.

This also works for vodka and moonshine (removes any methanol that might have creeped in, as well as most other contaminants). 6 runs through charcoal will make the cheapest vodka taste like the $250/bottle stuff.

 

[rancher89]

I'm sure he plans on adding to it, things are a little busy for some of us in NC. You know, all that trying to find like minded folks to come to the precinct/county/state conventions stuff. (we were so close to having a quorum at the state convention, soooo close---in fact we did for a while on Friday----45 min debate on getting rid of the 14th amendment...)

Gunny is going to go for his district chair and possibly further if all goes well. That and holding down a job probably has him jumping.

I know I'll have a little more time after the election, but not that much since that's when the CFL will be kicking off in high gear. Soooo, I'd say, from a fellow NC perspective, he'll probably add, but not this week or next.

I would like to see more of his PAW input too.

 

[Dr.3D]

When things are rough, it is wise to know how to make snares. If you learn how to make them now and have the wire and ability, it can save your life in a tough situation.

 

[rwbris18]

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http://briscoefamily.com/emergency/survival.php

 

[rwbris18]

ROFL - not quite! Those are actually amazingly simple to make. I didn't have any sort of plan, I made the design up myself, but that's more of a testament to how ridiculously simple they are to make than any sort of design prowess on my part.

If you have ever seen an M-80, it's a cylinder shaped fire cracker with a loose fuze sticking out of the side. A model rocket igniter, is little more than a match head with 2 wires sticking out of it. Pull the fuze, insert the igniter, tape down, and any 9v DC current will result in an instantaneous M-80 BANG!

A note if you plan on actually DOING this -- do not connect the battery until everything is in place -- AFTER the whole thing is taped up, AFTER the fishing line is attached, AFTER both ends are secured to trees, and AFTER the piece of cardboard is firmly breaking the circuit.

It helps to actually use a 9 volt battery snap on connector which you can get real cheap and re-use. You do NOT want the M-80 going off while building this thing, and CERTAINLY not while you are holding it. M-80's are a bit powerful, and can damage your hand!

So build the whole thing attaching the wires to the 9 volt battery snap on connecter, put everything including trip wire in place, and the last thing you do before leaving it is to snap the connector onto the battery.

I suggest you get a little wax and seal the M80 to be waterproof.

I'm not sure what you did as kids... I built rockets, cannons, and thought I was in heaven if I could get to Wyoming to buy fireworks... but let's suffice it to say the neighbor's dog was afraid of me.

 

[Deborah K]

Get a HAM radio folks. You may end up needing it. Most communities have a HAM radio club. Get to know them, they are survivalists. Get to know your neighbors and talk about how to work together if there's a catastrophy.

 

[rwbris18]

I'd choose a 22 for hunting small game anyday, numerous reasons, mostly stated already, but it will be lighter for cross country scrambling.....

You might not want to spend all day hunting.

You could set several traps then check them twice a day.

The time that you are not hunting could be used for other purposes.

One more thing: I like all the checklist but... you also need DOG FOOD for your sentry.

 

[rwbris18]

Noise maker:

1. Balloon
2. Rocket igniters
3. Oxygen/acetylene rig
4. Trip wire, battery, and relay

Fill the balloon with 1/3 Acetylene and 2/3 oxygen. Tape rocket igniter to Balloon, then set trip wire, relay and battery.

When tripped, expect to feel the concussion at over 50 feet away!

TMike

Note: Use a mylar balloon to keep gas from escaping over time.
Note#2: These are great for getting rid of grackles, and a lot cheaper than buying a propane grackle cannon.

Taped up a dry cleaning bag with scotch tape.
Filled it with hydrogen from a car storage battery acid eating something.
Soaked some string in potasium perclorate.
Tied the bag off with the string... then lit the string and let the bag float away.

 

[Crowish]

Get a HAM radio folks. You may end up needing it. Most communities have a HAM radio club. Get to know them, they are survivalists. Get to know your neighbors and talk about how to work together if there's a catastrophy.

I'm a ham radio operator too. At least until they decide to exercise that "character clause" after people start getting arrested for protesting the gov't hahaha.

 

[rwbris18]

Been Thinking... oooooh that's dangerous

PARTY POPPERS...
Put the party popper between a couple of branches and string the trip wire.


So there you have it. The Poor Man's Perimeter Security System.

 

[Dr.3D]

Been Thinking... oooooh that's dangerous

PARTY POPPERS...
Put the party popper between a couple of branches and string the trip wire.


So there you have it. The Poor Man's Perimeter Security System.

Better coat the entire thing with wax or the first bit of rain or dew and it won't work anymore.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

since this thread was recently mentioned in another thread and it's on p4 now...

BLIMP! - so ppl will find it...

-t

 

[Elwar]

Ran across this thread from that other thread...thanks for the heads up.

I live on the gulf of Mexico so I've been looking at how to get water from saltwater.

Even without a PAW event I was looking at how I could eliminate my water bill altogether combining rain water and saltwater.

I found a distiller that can be connected to a water line (or a pump from the gulf).
http://www.webeatprices.com/product...id=27&osCsid=71af8cf0900998d5d5fa0bfeeb247687
$600 - distills 8 gallons of water a day which would be plenty for my wife and I to drink and cook with. Plus the pure water that comes out of it would be good for a daily basis anyhow considering it gets rid of all chemicals (99.99%) from the water.

Along with this 500+ gallon stainless steel tank for $1,300.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Water-Storage-T...allon-New_W0QQitemZ130216921616QQcmdZViewItem

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned solar panels or wind power. I'd like to get a battery bank set up with some solar panels on the roof to run the basics. I'll probably get a generator first since it's cheaper for short term emergencies but I just don't see gas being all that readily available if things go really bad.

Being on the gulf my main source of food would obviously be fish. I think our whole community would be fine as far as that goes with the amount of fishing that goes on here.

I've started my list here: http://www.thethingsiwant.com/elwar123/list/wishlist
The site allows you to click on a button in your browser when you find something online that you want. Pretty handy for keeping your list in one place.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

re: desalination

http://upclose.unimelb.edu.au/episode/124
The 2 canal and large plastic sheet sounded interesting and easy to do...

http://seasteading.org/seastead.org/book_beta/full_book_beta.html <==desalination section is about half way through the book, do a find for "Solar Distillation".

http://www.epsea.org/stills.html <== cross section drawing and plans available.
-t

 

[ihsv]

Bump for good info

 

[gabed99]

A Leatherman knife is a good multi-functional tool to have, it's like a swiss army knife on steriods.

 

[priest_of_syrinx]

I'm definitely keeping this thread in the back of my mind. The DOW going below 7K is scary; I wouldn't have guessed it would go down that fast. Anything seems possible now.

It really makes me depressed, though, that I have to worry about stuff like this when the last two or three generations (not depression or WWII generation) have gotten an environment where their safety is almost guaranteed and they can pursue their dreams so easily. I've wanted so bad to be a musician, but that seems impossible if I'm bunkered up for a long time with the threat of nuclear war, thieves, fascism...