PPP MN Presidential caucus poll

[sailingaway]

Everywhere is reacting right now to 'Ron Paul isn't competing in Florida' and the media pretense that he has essentially dropped out of the running. when they quit focusing on FL and start focussing on the caucus states-- ASSUMING WE DO OUR WORK-- Ron will be a necessary focus, and polls will change.

 

[carterm]

"eff."

 

[TexMac]

Everywhere is reacting right now to 'Ron Paul isn't competing in Florida' and the media pretense that he has essentially dropped out of the running. when they quit focusing on FL and start focussing on the caucus states-- ASSUMING WE DO OUR WORK-- Ron will be a necessary focus, and polls will change.

Yes, and we are going to do really well in NV and we will have buzz from there.

 

[ZanZibar]

This is only the straw poll, which doesn't matter at all. Ron Paul will likely take many if not most of the delegates.

 

[Roy Bleckert]

This is not hard to figure out

Starting with Iowa the baby boomers 45-64 have the largest voting block & have been bouncing between Santy, Mittens & Newty

Look @ the cross tab in MN Ron went down from 9% to 5 % in the 45-64 group

He has been losing support in this most important group in this election

Ron needs to boost his support amongst the baby boomers to have a change @ the nomination

That is the demographic I would target to win this race

 

[Michael Landon]

303 people were polled, is that correct? If so that's not a lot of people so that might not be a fair analysis.

- ML

 

[69360]

Everyone has done the best possible job they could have, the campaign the supporters, everyone. The support within the GOP just isn't there. These later state polls are showing us that.

I just hope this movement finds a path forward somehow and doesn't break down with finger pointing and infighting.

 

[Lord Xar]

Isn't MN an "OPEN" caucus? If so, why poll only Republicans?

I am sooo confused :-(

 

[SovereignMN]

The crosstabs baffle me...
A) Independents have Gingrich 26, Santorum 23, Paul 18, Romney 15.
B) Paul's support dropped from 15% in 2008 to 13% in 2012.

Both of these are complete contradictions of the patterns we have seen in every race thusfar this year.

 

[Fraulein]

The majority of the "older" RP supporters are stuck in their own ways. They blindly follow the campaign and chastise all who criticise. F*** the GOP. Ron ain't winning the nomination as he has been effectively marginalized.

Time to give this country a viable alternative to the left/right paradigm and run third party. Get this country in the right direction.

 

[pauliticalfan]

We got 16% in 2008. No way in hell we're below that now. This poll is insane.

If these results hold though, this thing is over. No way we can afford to come in 4th in Minnesota. We need to pull an Iowa there (surging to first in the polls) and quick.

Maybe Gingrich crashing and burning in Florida would be good for us?

 

[Lord Xar]

I think they are keeping Frothy in the Race to buffer Ron's momentum. I mean, he is near "second". Really?

I don't know man.. where are Ron's Foreign Policy Ads? His JOBS ads? This is scary.

We really need Ron to bust it out tomorrow in the debates. If he does, that is millions in free advertising. We need him to pwn the debate to gain momentum going into Florida for the subsequent states.

 

[liberalnurse]

bobbyw24, is that you?

 

[D.A.S.]

I think they are keeping Frothy in the Race to buffer Ron's momentum. I mean, he is near "second". Really?

I don't know man.. where are Ron's Foreign Policy Ads? His JOBS ads? This is scary.

We really need Ron to bust it out tomorrow in the debates. If he does, that is millions in free advertising. We need him to pwn the debate to gain momentum going into Florida for the subsequent states.

THIS ^^^ my sentiments exactly.

 

[SovereignMN]

We got 16% in 2008. No way in hell we're below that now. This poll is insane.

If these results hold though, this thing is over. No way we can afford to come in 4th in Minnesota. We need to pull an Iowa there (surging to first in the polls) and quick.

I agree. It runs completely contradictory to every race thusfar. In every state Paul has outperformed his 2008 total by 2-4x. In every state Romney and Paul are near the top among independents. In this one Paul is 3rd and Romney 4th. Something is very fishy here or else South Carolina REALLY did turn this race upside down overnight.

Would independents be that easily swayed though?

 

[LibertyEagle]

The majority of the "older" RP supporters are stuck in their own ways. They blindly follow the campaign and chastise all who criticise. F*** the GOP. Ron ain't winning the nomination as he has been effectively marginalized.

Time to give this country a viable alternative to the left/right paradigm and run third party. Get this country in the right direction.

He's not going to run 3rd Party. Deal with it.

 

[da32130]

One thing to keep in mind: The reason we do well in caucus states isn't because the people in those states love us more. It is because of turnout.

Minnesota has 5 million people. 25k wins. 0.5% of the population.

In Iowa we needed over 1% to win.

Last time in Minnesota barely 1% of the population even voted.

I can't vouch for the passion on the ground relative to other candidates, but having better turnout is how we win.

 

[da32130]

One thing to keep in mind: The reason we do well in caucus states isn't because the people in those states love us more. It is because of turnout.

Minnesota has 5 million people. 25k wins. 0.5% of the population.

In Iowa we needed over 1% to win.

Last time in Minnesota barely 1% of the population even voted.

I can't vouch for the passion on the ground relative to other candidates, but having better turnout is how we win.

For comparison, South Carolina has a slightly smaller population than Minnesota. We pulled 78k there and 13% of the population voted.

 

[Lightweis]

He's not going to run 3rd Party. Deal with it.

He is going to run 3rd party! So you deal with it.. He can"t win the GOP nomination so accept it. They won't let it happen..

 

[Lightweis]

I feel like we should regroup and gear up for a 3rd party run.. I like our chances against Obama either way