Post aftermath reactions of ron paul on Neil Cavuto

[LastoftheMohicans]

I haven't yet seen Cavuto's show but I remember RP saying similar things when he was interviewed by Maria Bartriromo. I think someone even posted the link on this forum.

Here it is. http://youtube.com/watch?v=JZl6202HJGQ. Ron Paul is on with Former IRS Special Agent Joe Banister.

 

[BLS]

Neil Cavuto asked him "If you were President on January 20 would you tell the American people that they didn't have to pay taxes?"

Ron Paul: No, I would ask the Congress and try to persuade the Congress.

That to me sounds like he has no intention of pardoning tax evaders as President. It sounds like he is going to compromise his principles and work with Congress which is in essence selling out.

He'll win the election, but he'll never do the things he says he is going to do such as getting rid of the IRS and drastically cutting federal programs.

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[MsDoodahs]

I think what Ron Paul is trying to say here is this ....the People are sovereign under the Constitution - if we have bad laws WE THE PEOPLE have to demand that the law be changed. Who rules the USA? Is is "the government" or is it THE PEOPLE? Under the Constitution the "government" gets it's consent to govern from the people.

Ron Paul is trying to remind us that WE are supposed to be in charge. We have shirked our responsibility.

Beautifully put.

 

[beermotor]

Neil Cavuto asked him "If you were President on January 20 would you tell the American people that they didn't have to pay taxes?"

Ron Paul: No, I would ask the Congress and try to persuade the Congress.

That to me sounds like he has no intention of pardoning tax evaders as President. It sounds like he is going to compromise his principles and work with Congress which is in essence selling out.

He'll win the election, but he'll never do the things he says he is going to do such as getting rid of the IRS and drastically cutting federal programs.

Eh, NO - that sounds like a Constitutionalist argument. Which is what he's always framed himself as. I may not agree with him on all his positions, but shit, you can't call him a sellout. That just does not compute.

 

[Ronstock '08]

Neil Cavuto asked him "If you were President on January 20 would you tell the American people that they didn't have to pay taxes?"

Ron Paul: No, I would ask the Congress and try to persuade the Congress.

That to me sounds like he has no intention of pardoning tax evaders as President. It sounds like he is going to compromise his principles and work with Congress which is in essence selling out.

He'll win the election, but he'll never do the things he says he is going to do such as getting rid of the IRS and drastically cutting federal programs.

You forgot to quote the rest of Paul response to that question. He said that the President is not a dictator. You can't just make a statement on January 20th that starting today you don't have to pay income taxes. You have to change the law and that requires a congressional act. He was being realistic - you are not.

 

[angrydragon]

Neil Cavuto asked him "If you were President on January 20 would you tell the American people that they didn't have to pay taxes?"

Ron Paul: No, I would ask the Congress and try to persuade the Congress.

That to me sounds like he has no intention of pardoning tax evaders as President. It sounds like he is going to compromise his principles and work with Congress which is in essence selling out.

He'll win the election, but he'll never do the things he says he is going to do such as getting rid of the IRS and drastically cutting federal programs.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/government/cabinet.html

All the departments and cabinets the President can cut. Needing less taxes after they're gone.

When talking about social security and medicare:

The White House and the Congressional Budget Office oppose the change, arguing that the programs are not true liabilities because government can cancel or cut them.

http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20070529/1a_lede29.art.htm

 

[Man from La Mancha]

Where can I listen to this?

I like Paul's speaking ability, Reminds me of a most beloved famous actor of all times and he did quite well.

Jimmy Stewart

 

[mconder]

That to me sounds like he has no intention of pardoning tax evaders as President. It sounds like he is going to compromise his principles and work with Congress which is in essence selling out.

He'll win the election, but he'll never do the things he says he is going to do such as getting rid of the IRS and drastically cutting federal programs.

He will do it. He has a 20+ year public record of be honest and I have no reason to doubt when it counts. He is walking a tight rope right now. The snakes in the MSN are looking for anything, so you understand he has to play the game carefully. Once elected, what could they do to him?

 

[dmitchell]

It was an OK interview. I agree with the above that Cavuto was unsure how to proceed after Paul distanced himself from the Browns and so restorted to hostility. I was also kind of surprised that Cavuto took such an aggressive stance on taxation considering that he is a money guy.

I consider it a sad commentary on America today that long accepted ideas such as civil disobedience and nonintervention are painted as radical by the media. Of course, given all of mankind's history, they are radical.

Overall this is probably a good lesson in PR for the Ron Paul campaign. The MSM is obviously willing to use anything it can find to smear Ron--I'm amazed they haven't already brought up certain ugly historical remarks (you know the ones I mean). Next time Ron is asked about something he doesn't know about, he should just say "I don't know about that."

 

[Duckman]

I agree with you that the talking heads will try to spin it that way. However, people in this country are s-l-o-w-l-y waking up - I'm not sure the the spin will be entirely successful.

I hope you are right...

What I think Ron Paul should have said is that he sympathizes with people who don't pay their federal taxes because the tax burden is so high and the founding fathers never envisioned this as a revenue stream for the country. He then could have said that he will dismantle the IRS and bring the size of government under control so that we don't need federal taxes. Above all, he should have said that while he sympathizes with them he can't support breaking the law, we must work within the law.

All of those statements would have been consistent with his position, appealing to the public, and defused the situation. But, by supporting tax protestors and implying we don't need federal taxes today, I think he comes off as dangerously radical and unhinged, and I don't think we need that.

And we thought 9/11 truthers would be the ones to sink Ron Paul!

 

[angrydragon]

Overall this is probably a good lesson in PR for the Ron Paul campaign. The MSM is obviously willing to use anything it can find to smear Ron--I'm amazed they haven't already brought up certain ugly historical remarks (you know the ones I mean). Next time Ron is asked about something he doesn't know about, he should just say "I don't know about that."

I doubt they'll bring those things up. Those remarks against Paul has no legs to stand on. They'll publicly be lying or slandering, since they'll probably research it to make sure they got something on Paul.

 

[Daveforliberty]

So if the "law' tomorrow says you must have an implant in your right arm and register whenever you enter or leave any building, you'll comply because it's the "law?" I for one am in total agreement with Ron Paul on favoring civil disobedience to overturn unjust laws. As he said, you must be prepared to face the consequences.

 

[dude58677]

That to me sounds like he has no intention of pardoning tax evaders as President. It sounds like he is going to compromise his principles and work with Congress which is in essence selling out.

He'll win the election, but he'll never do the things he says he is going to do such as getting rid of the IRS and drastically cutting federal programs.

He will do it. He has a 20+ year public record of be honest and I have no reason to doubt when it counts. He is walking a tight rope right now. The snakes in the MSN are looking for anything, so you understand he has to play the game carefully. Once elected, what could they do to him?

Politicians sell out when they are in their prime. George W Bush was a decent guy in Texas other then with the death penalty(I voted for Harry Browne). He had no income tax in Texas but then when he became President of the United States he was as corrupt as ever. People also said that a conservative Congress and President would be best for our freedom and that failed. Ron Paul knows his bills won't pass as a Congressman and when he is President, he'll keep the American people waiting for a 1776 America to emerge but it will never happen during the first term and will be promised again for the second term which will again never take place. During his entire time in office he'll compromise his princinples by working with a Congress that he knows will never agree with him.

 

[LibertyBelle]

16th Amendment

He talks about repealing the 16th Amendment....but where even in this amendment does it specify paying taxes on wages? It doesn't! "Show Me The Law". He needs to remember to say that. Mentioning before 1913, as well as the amendment not having anything to do with taxes on wages would be perfect. Get the peeps attention. Of course, Cavuto interupted him and the interview was short, and it is hard to think of everything quick.

I do believe him mentioning before 1913 will get people's attention, they actually might start asking more questions! Like ya, how did the gov't exist before income taxes? Maybe that is asking too much of all the people who now respond to sound bites......

 

[angrydragon]

President Bush was corrupt before becoming president.

 

[jd603]

If he keeps sticking to the constitution as he has he will do a great job even if he cannot abolish the IRS. You're right about a lot of people selling out. Bush however, was directly connected to previous sell-outs. Also, at least Ron Paul speaks the truth in the campaign and isn't war mongering like the other republicans. I'd still take my chances with Ron Paul over any of them. Any other candidate guarantees you more of the same, except Ron Paul.

Politicians sell out when they are in their prime. George W Bush was a decent guy in Texas other then with the death penalty(I voted for Harry Browne). He had no income tax in Texas but then when he became President of the United States he was as corrupt as ever. People also said that a conservative Congress and President would be best for our freedom and that failed. Ron Paul knows his bills won't pass as a Congressman and when he is President, he'll keep the American people waiting for a 1776 America to emerge but it will never happen during the first term and will be promised again for the second term which will again never take place. During his entire time in office he'll compromise his princinples by working with a Congress that he knows will never agree with him.

 

[Ronstock '08]

He talks about repealing the 16th Amendment....but where even in this amendment does it specify paying taxes on wages? It doesn't! "Show Me The Law". He needs to remember to say that. Mentioning before 1913, as well as the amendment not having anything to do with taxes on wages would be perfect. Get the peeps attention. Of course, Cavuto interupted him and the interview was short, and it is hard to think of everything quick.

I do believe him mentioning before 1913 will get people's attention, they actually might start asking more questions! Like ya, how did the gov't exist before income taxes? Maybe that is asking too much of all the people who now respond to sound bites......

You just hit the nail on the head. Paul is making good points but "the people" are too busy watching American Idol and being spoon fed pablum by the MSM. I hope and pray that enough people are awake and alert to vote for Ron Paul.

If this nation continues on it's present course the future is very dark indeed.

 

[dude58677]

But he can abolish the IRS by pardoning tax evaders and giving executive orders to lay off IRS employees, last erasing every IRS law in the CFR. It disappoints me that he didn't say he was going to do this.

 

[angrydragon]

Politicians sell out when they are in their prime. George W Bush was a decent guy in Texas other then with the death penalty(I voted for Harry Browne). He had no income tax in Texas but then when he became President of the United States he was as corrupt as ever. People also said that a conservative Congress and President would be best for our freedom and that failed. Ron Paul knows his bills won't pass as a Congressman and when he is President, he'll keep the American people waiting for a 1776 America to emerge but it will never happen during the first term and will be promised again for the second term which will again never take place. During his entire time in office he'll compromise his princinples by working with a Congress that he knows will never agree with him.

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0706-22.htm

Bush Team Was Involved in 'Eminent' Land Grab

In their book, Shrub, columnist Molly Ivins and Lou Dubose note that, "Not satisfied with the taxpayers picking up the tab on the construction of the (new) stadium, the ball team used its quasi-government sports authority to 'take' the 13 acres needed for the stadium complex at a price so low a state court had to step in on behalf of the unwilling 'sellers.' "

 

[rich34]

Dude, there's somethings better left unsaid. Ron Paul has already stated he wants to get rid of the IRS and the income tax. Take him at his word that's what he's going to do. At least he says that much, the other guys don't mention it at all. Nor any of his other positions. As someone has already pointed out. You have to play the game.