Poll: Rand Paul leads Hillary Clinton in state of Kentucky and gets 29% of black vote

[jct74]

Home-court advantage: Ky. voters narrowly prefer Rand Paul over Hillary Clinton for president

BY SAM YOUNGMAN
May 17, 2014

And Kentucky's eight electoral votes go to ...

Okay, it's far too early for that, but in a hypothetical match-up in the 2016 presidential race between U.S. Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Paul would narrowly carry the Bluegrass State, according to a new poll.

The Bluegrass Poll, sponsored jointly by the Lexington Herald-Leader, The Courier-Journal, WKYT-TV and WHAS-TV, found that Paul would beat Clinton in Kentucky 48 percent to 44 percent.

SurveyUSA conducted the poll of 1,782 registered voters from May 14 to 16. It has a margin of error of plus or minus 2.4 percentage points.

Paul's lead over Clinton appears to be partially a function of gender at this point, with Paul winning 55 percent of men to Clinton's 38 percent and Clinton winning women 50 percent to 42 percent.

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While Paul has made outreach to minority groups one of his top priorities, the poll found that only 29 percent of black respondents would back Paul compared with 62 percent who would vote for Clinton.

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read more:
http://www.kentucky.com/2014/05/17/3247423/home-court-advantage-ky-voters.html


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[edit] additional information on the 29% of black vote that Herald Leader implies is low:

OK, here is the history of how blacks have voted for president through the decades.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/04/blacks-and-the-democratic-party/


So 29% actually is a huge number for a Republican, and the low numbers for Romney last election don't really seem to have much to do with Obama being black, the numbers have been in that range for a very long time.

 

[jct74]

While Paul has made outreach to minority groups one of his top priorities, the poll found that only 29 percent of black respondents would back Paul compared to 62 percent who would vote for Clinton.

isn't 29% really good for a Republican? the article makes it sound like Rand is underperforming in that aspect.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

"It's like asking whether Superman or Batman would win if they got into a fight," Voss said. "People know the battle isn't likely to happen, but they want to fantasize about it anyway."

...keep on shillin' Voss

 

[specsaregood]

isn't 29% really good for a Republican? the article makes it sound like Rand is underperforming in that aspect.

Indeed, I would think 29% is a huge amount.

 

[Occam's Banana]

"It's like asking whether Superman or Batman would win if they got into a fight," Voss said. "People know the battle isn't likely to happen, but they want to fantasize about it anyway."

It has happened. At least once (in Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns).
It's going to happen again in the next Superman movie (Batman vs. Superman).
So I guess this Voss guy doesn't know what "people know" after all. Go figure ...

 

[RickyJ]

You guys still think that Rand will do anything for liberty if elected? I have my doubts, I also have doubts that he really has a chance of winning anyway. He still hasn't said if he is running yet has he? If he doesn't announce soon then he probably won't have a chance. It takes a ton of money to have any chance of winning the presidency.

 

[jjdoyle]

It has happened. At least once (in Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns).
It's going to happen again in the next Superman movie (Batman vs. Superman).
So I guess this Voss guy doesn't know what "people know" after all. Go figure ...

AND in the video game INJUSTICE: Gods Among Us.

 

[Brett85]

It's not really a good thing to only be up by 4% in your own home state in a deep red state.

 

[RickyJ]

It's not really a good thing to only be up by 4% in your own home state in a deep red state.

But Hillary is really popular among many democrats so it isn't that bad either. Kentucky has lots of democrats so they aren't as red as you think they are.

 

[Brett85]

But Hillary is really popular among many democrats so it isn't that bad either. Kentucky has lots of democrats so they aren't as red as you think they are.

Yeah, they have a lot of Democrats that vote Republican in national elections. Still, Romney beat Obama by 23% in 2012. So doing 19% worse than Romney did isn't very good. Hopefully that changes.

 

[Guitarzan]

It's not really a good thing to only be up by 4% in your own home state in a deep red state.

Have you ever anything positive to say?

Jeez...you have a great talent for encouraging people to see the worst in life.

 

[Bryan]

You guys still think that Rand will do anything for liberty if elected? I have my doubts, I also have doubts that he really has a chance of winning anyway. He still hasn't said if he is running yet has he? If he doesn't announce soon then he probably won't have a chance. It takes a ton of money to have any chance of winning the presidency.

Yes, there is a good amount of change that is predicted to be done for liberty if Rand gets elected. Of course, he already has done a good amount for liberty. Still, remember, not everything hinges on winning the presidency. Obviously Ron Paul did not win the presidency but it would be quite a stretch to say he didn't do anything for liberty.

As a note- please remember that Rand's Forum here is for activism & discussion in support of Rand Paul - anyone who wants to throw stones towards Rand shouldn't do it here. See the guidelines for full details (link in my sig). Thank you.

 

[Brett85]

Have you ever anything positive to say?

Jeez...you have a great talent for encouraging people to see the worst in life.

I'm a realist. I call it like I see it. I thought the poll that showed Rand beating Hillary in Colorado was great and had great results for Rand. But there's nothing good about this poll. Wake up [mod delete]

 

[Crashland]

29% is massive for the black vote. And remember folks, this is a poll at a time when Clinton is the presumptive democratic nominee, but there is no presumptive GOP nominee. That means other republicans who might end up voting for Paul in the general election might not be indicating support for him here, because they prefer another GOP candidate and don't want to make Paul look good.

 

[specsaregood]

Yeah, they have a lot of Democrats that vote Republican in national elections. Still, Romney beat Obama by 23% in 2012. So doing 19% worse than Romney did isn't very good. Hopefully that changes.

Clinton isn't Obama. Huge difference, not even comparable.
Hillary beat Obama in the KY democrat primary by a whopping: 35%.
Hillary: 65.48%
Obama: 29.92%

 

[Brett85]

Clinton isn't Obama. Huge difference, not even comparable.
Hillary beat Obama in the KY democrat primary by a whopping: 35%.
Hillary: 65.48%
Obama: 29.92%

People will probably get on me for attacking the people of Kentucky for saying this, but it seems like race might play at least some factor there.

 

[specsaregood]

People will probably get on me for attacking the people of Kentucky for saying this, but it seems like race might play at least some factor there.

Perhaps; All I'm saying is using the Romney vs. Obama race to say Randal isn't doing well here against Clinton is a worthless comparison. It seems you could have run a scarecrow against Obama in KY and won.

 

[Brett85]

Bush beat Kerry by 20% in Kentucky. Maybe it isn't race. I don't know. Maybe Hillary is somehow perceived as a moderate Democrat, but I don't know how.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/KY/P/00/

 

[Guitarzan]

I'm a realist. I call it like I see it. I thought the poll that showed Rand beating Hillary in Colorado was great and had great results for Rand. But there's nothing good about this poll. Wake up [mod delete]

Curious. So i searched all forum threads regarding the CO poll.

Funny that I didn't see you post in any of them, except one. And that post was somewhat negative too.

Traditional Conservative: Colorado has taken a much sharper turn to the right than have states like Florida, Virginia, Ohio, etc. I'm not exactly sure why that is, although it may have been due to the new gun control laws. There was a lot of backlash from that. Colorado is a socially liberal state, but not pro gun control.

Several threads on the subject, and this was your only post. You're 'not exactly sure'....is that what you consider positive?

But you sure seem to keep a thread bumped with plenty of posts when there's a 'concern'...

[mod delete]

 

[Crashland]

You only have to win each state by 1 vote. All else being equal, better to lose votes in states that the GOP historically carries by 20 points and gain votes in swing states.