Poll: Is the Southern Poverty Law Center a Hate Group?

[Galileo Galilei]

Poll: Is the Southern Poverty Law Center a Hate Group?

Yes.

They hate the 1st Amendment, the 2nd Amendment, the 3rd Amendment, the 4th Amendment, the 5th Amendment, the 6th Amendment, the 7th Amendment, the 9th Amendment, the 10th Amendment, and the 11th Amendment.

They hate Article I of the Constitution, as well as Article II, Article III, Article IV, Article V, Article VI, and Article VII.

They hate the Declaration of Independence and Common Sense.

They hate the Federalist Papers and the Anti-Federalist Papers.

They hate Ron Paul.

They hate Lew Rockwell.

They hate Rand Paul and Debra Medina.

They hate the Libertarian Party and the Tea Parties.

They hate Alex Jones and the 9/11 Truth Movement.

They hate Dr. David Ray Griffin.

They hate Loose Change.

They hate WTC 7.

They hate George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, James Monroe, Ed Thompson, Ayn Rand, John Locke, David Nolan, John Hancock, Samuel Adams, John Stossel, R. W. Bradford, Stephen P. Gordon, Grover Cleveland, Davy Crockett, James Wilson, Antoninus Pius, Galileo Galilei, Giordano Bruno, Origen of Alexandria, Benjamin Franklin, and Roger Sherman.

They hate Jesse Ventura, Daniel Ellsberg, John Perkins, Richard Falk, and G. Edward Griffin.

They hate George Santayana, Pastor Martin Niemöller, Patrick Henry, Charles Barkley, John Milton, Franz Kafka, and Tacitus.

They hate Lord Acton and Voltaire.

They hate Bon Barr.

They hate Harry Browne, Paul Craig Roberts, Justin Raimondo, Mike Gravel, Paul Joseph Watson, Peter Dale Scott, Steve Watson, Randy Weaver, David Koresh, Lee Harvey Oswald, Aaron Russo, Dylan Avery, Jason Bermas, Korey Rowe, and Dr. Kevin Barrett.

They hate Frederic Bastiat, Vin Suprynowicz, Peter McWilliams, Dr. Mary Ruwart, David Bergland, Judge Andrew P. Napolitano, Judge James Gray, Randy E. Barnett, Stephen D. Cox, Michael Badnarik, F. A. Hayek, Dr. Joseph Tainter, Charles Renouvier, Alexander Hamilton, Edmund Contoski, James Powell, Rose Wilder Lane, Henry Grady Weaver, Charles de Montesquieu, Thomas Paine, Edward Gibbon, Alexis de Tocqueville, George Mason, Akhil Reed Amar, Elaine Pagels, Stillman Drake, Ernst Cassirer, John Adams, I. Bernard Cohen, Forrest Church, Rufus Choate, Dr. Thomas E. Woods Jr., Charles Murray, Eugene Zamiatin, Aldous Huxley, George Orwell, Barry Scheck, Hunter S. Thompson, John Hospers, Dan Brown, Robert Allen Rutland, Pierre Bayle, David McCullough, Daniel Webster, Robert Hayne, Jean-Jacques Burlamaqui, Lance Banning, Dr. Alfred W. McCoy, William H. McNeill, Garrett Mattingly, Socrates, John Marshall, Roger Taney, Livy, Niccolo Machiavelli, Jules Verne, Chinua Achebe, Tommaso Campanella, Ralph Ketcham, John Quincy Adams, Jared M. Diamond, Paul M. Johnson, John Brown, Geronimo, Joan of Arc, Bertrand Russell, Leonardo da Vinci, Jacob Bronowski, Oscar Wilde, Giambattista Vico, and John Jay.

They hate Mark Lane, Polybius, Friedrich Nietzsche, William Shirer, Isaac Asimov, and Dolley Madison.

They hate Peter Schiff, Adam Koesh, and R.J. Harris.

They LOVE Big Brother.

 

[paulitics]

They hate us for our freedoms.

 

[Galileo Galilei]

They hate us for our freedoms.

They certainly do.

 

[Aratus]

they are a PAC, they are a 527
they act PAC and they act 527
they are partisan in orientation

 

[pacelli]

This is the best that 'they' can do.

 

[kahless]

Oops, subtract 1 from yes and add it to "not sure". I vaguely remember something but my memory is bad on this one. Maybe OP can list why he believes they hate those listed in his post?

On the surface it seems like a good thing protecting those from hate groups and documenting the locations and activities of hate groups like the KKK and Neo-Nazi's. I am going to guess that they got away from that mission and are lumping in tax protestors or Ron Paul some how?

 

[The Patriot]

They are establishment lap dogs. They target their vitriol against anyone who opposes the current order.

 

[Vessol]

Big hate group. They do not good for the minorities they claim to "represent".

 

[kahless]

Do we have any specifics? What specifically did they say or do against Ron Paul or those listed in the OP's post.

Do we have any quotations or specific actions?

 

[Galileo Galilei]

Oops, subtract 1 from yes and add it to "not sure". I vaguely remember something but my memory is bad on this one. Maybe OP can list why he believes they hate those listed in his post?

On the surface it seems like a good thing protecting those from hate groups and documenting the locations and activities of hate groups like the KKK and Neo-Nazi's. I am going to guess that they got away from that mission and are lumping in tax protestors or Ron Paul some how?

They hate Amercia. If you form a group and call it the 'Second Amendment Army", they'll call that a hate group becasue it has a militant sounding name.

If they want to bump their numbers, they should check out some of the groups on facebook. There's one called sometging like; "Ten Million Strong Who Want to See the Birth Certificate". That would be another hate group, because they would say the group hates black people.

On the other hand, if football fans have group called the "Shotgun Blitz headbangers bratwurst squad", that would be OK.

 

[Galileo Galilei]

Do we have any specifics? What specifically did they say or do against Ron Paul or those listed in the OP's post.

Do we have any quotations or specific actions?

The post has a little hyperbole. But they did just say that "Oathkeepers" is a hate group. They also label groups that want to see Obama's birth certificate a hate group. Groups that think Irael is involved with 9/11 is a "hate group" becasue they must be racists. Etc.

The SPLC really just hates free speech and they hate America.

 

[Vessol]

Do we have any specifics? What specifically did they say or do against Ron Paul or those listed in the OP's post.

Do we have any quotations or specific actions?

http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/10/08/extremist-group-announces-speech-by-congressman/
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/11/04/minutemen-forge/
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/01/06/liberty-dollar-creator-seeks-greener-grass/
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/02/05/patriot-vendors-hawking-their-own-coins-again/

Just a quick google search.

 

[Pericles]

[h1]The Church of Morris Dees - How the Southern Poverty Law Center profits from intolerance[/h1]
by Ken Silverstein, Harper's Magazine, November, 2000
Read the complete article
Excerpts:

...who could object to the Southern Poverty Law Center, the Montgomery, Alabama-based group... Cofounded in 1971 by civil rights lawyer cum direct-marketing millionaire Morris Dees...

... Morris Dees--who made millions hawking, by direct mail, such humble commodities as birthday cakes, cookbooks (including Favorite Recipes of American Home Economics Teachers), tractor seat cushions, rat poison, and, in exchange for a mailing list containing 700,000 names, presidential candidate George McGovern--is nothing if not a good salesman...

Today, the SPLC's treasury bulges with $120 million... The American Institute of Philanthropy gives the center one of the worst ratings of any group it monitors, estimating that the SPLC could operate for 4.6 years without making another tax-exempt nickel...

The SPLC's "other important work for justice" consists mainly in spying on private citizens who belong to "hate groups,"...

In 1986, the center's entire legal staff quit in protest of Dees's refusal to address issues--such as homelessness, voter registration, and affirmative action... Another lawyer... told reporters that the center's programs were calculated to cash in on "black pain and white guilt."...

... "Morris and I ... shared the overriding purpose of making a pile of money," recalls Dees's business partner, a lawyer named Millard Fuller (not to be confused with Millard Farmer). "We were not particular about how we did it; we just wanted to be independently rich." They were so unparticular, in fact, that in 1961 they defended a man, guilty of beating up a journalist covering the Freedom Riders, whose legal fees were paid by the Klan.

"You are a fraud and a conman," the Southern Center's director, Stephen Bright, wrote in a 1996 letter to Dees...

COPYRIGHT 2000 Harper's Magazine Foundation

 

[Galileo Galilei]

http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/10/08/extremist-group-announces-speech-by-congressman/
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/11/04/minutemen-forge/
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/01/06/liberty-dollar-creator-seeks-greener-grass/
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/02/05/patriot-vendors-hawking-their-own-coins-again/

Just a quick google search.

good post.

Oh, that's another thing. Some people they just IMPLY are racists (like Ron Paul), because they speak somewhere that SPLC doesn't approve of.

They are implying that Robert Taft was a racist in one of these. In another, you are implied to be a racist of you oppose the Fed (because you must hate all the Jewish bankers).

They are full of it.

 

[Uriel999]

They hate us for our freedoms.

qft.

Nice to be able to use the neocon phrases against TPTB

 

[The Patriot]

Do we have any specifics? What specifically did they say or do against Ron Paul or those listed in the OP's post.

Do we have any quotations or specific actions?

http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2008/11/04/minutemen-forge/
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/10/08/extremist-group-announces-speech-by-congressman/
http://www.splcenter.org/get-inform...ilitia-movement-resurgent-infused-with-racism
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/news/splcs-mark-potok-interviewed-on-militia-movement
http://www.splcenter.org/get-inform...ond-chance-a-new-start-with-splc-board-member
http://www.splcenter.org/get-inform...ress-to-investigate-extremism-in-the-military
http://www.splcenter.org/get-inform...-economic-political-climate-fueling-extremism
http://www.splcenter.org/get-inform...t/browse-all-issues/2009/fall/the-second-wave
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/02/19/austin-killer-becoming-a-hero-to-the-radical-right/
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2010/02/05/patriot-vendors-hawking-their-own-coins-again/

 

[pacelli]

Here's Morris Dees' divorce brief. This guy appears seriously screwed up, and probably one of the reasons why they put Mark Potluck as the SPLC's figure head. Honestly, the quote below is just the tip of the iceberg with this scumbag.

Morris' Step-Daughter. Holly Buck, Maureene's daughter
by a previous marriage, is eighteen years old (R. 728). She was
seven years old when her mother and Morris married, and she has
lived with them in the house at Mathews from then until the
separation (R. 728). Holly testified that, in the summer of 1977,
Morris attempted to molest her in the following incident (R. 729):

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She did not tell her mother about this incident until the separation when they moved out
of the Mathews house in the spring of 1979 (R. 736).

http://www.zianet.com/web/dees2.htm

 

[Galileo Galilei]

Oh, that's another thing. A group that is not a hate group can magically become a hate group if the owner of the group is deemed a hater.

It would be interesting if this were applied to large corporations. Just imagine a large corp with 1000 stockholders. Let's say three of them are birthers. Does that make the whole group a hate group? Probably not, unless SPLC has an agenda against the group.

 

[catdd]

A "hate group" is simply anyone they hate.

 

[Dunedain]

The SPLC fights white supremacists. That is their main target of their anti-hate attacks. That means they do good. You are a racist hater if you disagree with this.