POLL: Draft Ron Paul, indy run? I got 140 signatures today...

What is your view of an independent/unaffiliated run (or Third Party)?

  • Great: It would get the message out in a huge way-a ton more than already-& HE COULD WIN.

    Votes: 117 43.8%
  • Good: It would get the message out in a huge way, but still, HE COULD NEVER WIN.

    Votes: 23 8.6%
  • Just smart: GOP would never nominate him, parties are a curse anyway, and it COULD succeed.

    Votes: 36 13.5%
  • Bad: EVEN IF he could win, changing the GOP is more important-so don't piss them off.

    Votes: 18 6.7%
  • Horrible: He could never win, it would be a huge waste of time&money, & GOP more important.

    Votes: 53 19.9%
  • Stupid: He still has a reasonably good chance of winning the Nomination.

    Votes: 20 7.5%

  • Total voters
    267
Many great thoughts, QFT...

There are several third parties who like Ron. I say the more that will draft him the BETTER !

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It will still be Ron and the message on the ballot, no matter which label it is under. I think it would be wonderful if we could get as many of these as possible supporting Ron, because that means they won't be running anyone against him. If five or six third Parties back him I truly think we would have a chance.

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We need to email their leadership and let them know we want them to DRAFT RON PAUL. If enough of us do this they will draft him and he will be in the FINAL for all the marbles ! I just don't want all of our efforts to end and not be in the finals. We still have a chance to spread this message to 100 million more people before Nov.4.

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Let's do this friends, and not squander this past year of effort.

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Let’s keep Ron Paul in the presidential race through Election Day!

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The rules are stacked against independent and third party candidates, and media attention to these candidacies is minimal.

But the rules are changed now, thanks to Dr. Paul himself.

Ron Paul is now a household name after the Republican presidential debates. He also has a proven ability to obtain financial support on a level never before enjoyed by the Libertarian Party.

This combination of name recognition and financial support means that a Ron Paul candidacy could carry the Libertarian Party vote *(%) into the double-digits on Election Day, and possibly keep both major parties from obtaining a majority of the votes. No longer would libertarians and constitutionalist conservatives be ignored!

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Let’s not throw away all that has been gained this year.
 
Soo.... let's translate talk into action.

I earlier suggested that people form a committee to elect Ron Paul independently. Adopt a precinct program, work on a script to disavow any kind of affiliation with official PCC while gathering ballot access and getting petition signatures (e.g. real live petition, not an online petition) pledging to vote for Ron Paul if he is on the ballot (don't have to be indy or Republican; just pledge to vote for Ron Paul wherever he may be on the ballot), and so forth.

This will help RP in long run: 1) If he stays in Republican race, he has a bargaining chip to take to convention and because he had no hand in this, this can't be considered a collusion, and GOP will have to take him seriously because of all support (the more hard pledged there is, the better), 2) If he does give up on republican, or convention has come and no nomination or coup turns out, he has a indy run that's made possible by grassroot efforts.

This isn't a mutually exclusive goal, but for this to start right now, I'd think everyone should know to leave Ron Paul and PCC out of this, and just concentrate on getting the ballot access and pledges while we continue to support his pressent objectives of picking up as many as delegates as he can at Republican conventions.

Remember- Paul cannot and should not hedge his bets, but there's nothing stopping us from doing so.

QFT
 
I suppose we could take it all the way to the convention, make as much "noise" as possible there, and then announce the independent run the day after?
 
I suppose we could take it all the way to the convention, make as much "noise" as possible there, and then announce the independent run the day after?

I think by the time of the convention in September it will be too late to announce an independent/third party run. The Constitution party's convention is April 26th in Kansas City, and the Libertarian Convention is May 26th in Denver. I'm not sure when the Reform party convention is, I couldn't find it on their website. We need to get them all to draft RP so we can all work together.
 
Why is the donation page missing from the website? This seems like a bad omen. Someone say something encouraging, please.

Edit: My bad. Just the counter page is no longer on the front. Still, I don't like it. You can still click on donations in the upper right.
 
Why is the donation page missing from the website? This seems like a bad omen. Someone say something encouraging, please.

Edit: My bad. Just the counter page is no longer on the front. Still, I don't like it. You can still click on donations in the upper right.

Yeah, it's safe to say the campaign has been suspended at this point, even if it goes unsaid by HQ or Ron Paul himself. Our only hope is convincing him to run independent.
 
I voted horrible.

I also don't believe that just because a majority of people believe something, it is true.

We should focus on Congressional runs (like Murray Sabrin) and the national convention. Congress, after all, has all the power if you elect congressmen with the balls to assert it. Don't buy into the Presidency myth.
 
We should focus on Congressional runs (like Murray Sabrin) and the national convention. Congress, after all, has all the power if you elect congressmen with the balls to assert it. Don't buy into the Presidency myth.

It bears reminding that by getting all delegates we can to National and state conventions, we can then pack the committees with our people and thus 1) make it friendlier toward other liberty candidates and 2) turn out corrupt politicians.
 
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