POLL: Draft Ron Paul, indy run? I got 140 signatures today...

[SteveMartin]

LC4P,

There may be better ones, but let's just spread the word about this one. I will call both RP and BB at 5:00 PM ET if we have enough votes.

 

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

Good to hear, Steve. Just to clarify, is this poll the "petition" you are referring to, or am I missing something?

In any case, I posted a link to it on Third Party Watch in the comments section talking about Ron Paul winding down his campaign. There are a lot of Libertarian supporters of Ron Paul who comment on this blog, but I'm not sure if they have accounts here to vote.

 

[Edu]

You should be getting signatures to recall local politicians and then you can get a special election to put in a RP selected guy!

It's not that hard to do, and it really shakes up the local politicians like you wouldn't believe!

Look up how to do it on your secretary of state's site or elsewhere via google.

 

[SteveMartin]

This is it LC4P...there may be others, but I am busy urging people to sign this one.

We don't have to decide if there is a better one. BB could call me any minute...

 

[familydog]

There is an entire sub forum for this. Can't we keep this kind fo talk there?

 

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

There is an entire sub forum for this. Can't we keep this kind fo talk there?

Not for this, please. We are trying to get as many votes on this poll as possible, which is easiest if this stays bumped on the main Grassroots page where most members visit.

 

[SteveMartin]

NO...we can't shuffle the most important issue of the day off to some sub-forum where no one will read it. We need to reinvigorate the troops, NOW!

 

[familydog]

Then tell the moderators to close that sub forum and put all those posts back here. No point in breaking the forums rules.

 

[colecrowe]

Then tell the moderators to close that sub forum and put all those posts back here. No point in breaking the forums rules.

This is a POLL. That means it has to ask everyone to be a representative sample. If this was in the subforum, it would probably get 90% Yes votes.

this seems very obvious. It is one thread, and it is different. It should be able to stay.

 

[limequat]

I voted, Horrible: He could never win, it would be a huge waste of time&money, & GOP more important.

Third parties never win. They're a waste of time and money. Why do you think Ron Paul joined the Republican Party to get into Congress? He's already done this in 88 and said he won't do it again. Maybe you don't remember him saying, "There will be no 3rd party run." His plan is to stay in Congress, period.

I am now 100% for an independent run. If Abe says it's a bad idea, I know the converse is true. Thanks, Abe, for helping me make up my mind!

 

[limequat]

Who are you, SteveMartin?
You make some pretty big claims. You claim to know the billionaire. You claim to be in contact with Ron's relatives. What gives you this access and why should we believe what you say?

We are urging and INDEPENDENT run. There are major differences.

He has always followed that by saying, "it's too expensive, and you spend all your time getting on the ballots, etc.

Times have changed. He would get the LP nomination, the CP nomination, the Reform Party nomination, the American Party nomination, maybe even the Green Party nomination. The ballot lines are there waiting for him!!!

The money will come! GUARANTEED!!!

We have at least 100,000 dedicated supporters. We have raised $32,000,000 total so far. That's $320 of a possible $2300 per supporter, AND when he goes Independent for the general election, those clocks start over again at 0!

PLUS...I know how to get ahold of the billionaire. He really exists...with a new campaign team he might be convinced to run those infommercials and put his $100,000,000 he originally promised if we would just get a competent campaign team!

 

[familydog]

This is a POLL. That means it has to ask everyone to be a representative sample. If this was in the subforum, it would probably get 90% Yes votes.

this seems very obvious. It is one thread, and it is different. It should be able to stay.

Ah, I see the rule of law is relative in your eyes.

 

[SteveMartin]

Why? Because it's true.

Call me and I'll be glad to convince you personally: 207-532-3635.

 

[familydog]

It's obvious Ron will win as an independent. After all, he spent a million dollars to get his House seat back. I guess it wasn't because he wanted to fall back on anything, it was because he was bored.

 

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

It's obvious Ron will win as an independent. After all, he spent a million dollars to get his House seat back. I guess it wasn't because he wanted to fall back on anything, it was because he was bored.

You're going around the forum acting like there is some threat to his House seat. I don't understand what you are trying to say at all. Ron Paul has no opponent in November and the GOP can't kick him out of Congress. How could he possibly lose his House seat by running as an independent? There is no threat.

 

[familydog]

You're going around the forum acting like there is some threat to his House seat. I don't understand what you are trying to say at all. Ron Paul has no opponent in November and the GOP can't kick him out of Congress. How could he possibly lose his House seat by running as an independent? There is no threat.

I'm not saying there is any threat to his House seat. Where have I said that? I'm sure he will win. My previous post was a knock on the attitude that if he ran as an independent, he will automatically get millions and millions of dollars, huge polling supporting, get in the debates, get media attention, etc. I asking why he spent all that time and money getting his House seat, if he knew he was going to win as an independent.

 

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

I'm not saying there is any threat to his House seat. Where have I said that? I'm sure he will win. My previous post was a knock on the attitude that if he ran as an independent, he will automatically get millions and millions of dollars, huge polling supporting, get in the debates, get media attention, etc. I asking why he spent all that time and money getting his House seat, if he knew he was going to win as an independent.

Honestly, I think Ron Paul was more worried about his House seat for two reasons. One, he was probably overly cautious not knowing what the response would be from his constituents to this Presidential bid. Worse, I think he and his campaign over exaggerated the threat of Peden.

This is fairly excusable though, because neo-con idiots were making up poll numbers claiming Peden had a close edge on Paul, which even the media picked up for some reason. So, they were worried and sought to raise as much money as possible and focus on Texas for a month since they bought into the hype about Peden being a threat. In any case, the primary made it clear it was just garbage, Peden was handily crushed with 70%.

 

[Dianne]

I don't think any of us are willing to give up this fight.

I will be vastly disappointed if Paul does not go third party. The GOP with their media hacks have dumped on Paul's entire movement and we owe them nothing.

So grab a well known name such as Goldwater as VP and let's hit the campaign trail.

I hereby commit to working as hard as possible for a Paul victory. I will donate money, I will get signs out, I will distribute literature and I will canvass.

Give us a strong, known VP and we'll kick some bootie.

 

[SteveMartin]

50-25 right now.....2/3rds is pretty darned good...

 

[SteveMartin]

51-25.