Poll: Are you on Food Stamps?

[MichelleHeart]

If Person A steals from Person B, is it justified for Person B to steal money from Person C to offset the money that was stolen from him?

Maybe that's a bad example.

Try this: If a thief steals money from you, it's gone, and then somebody offers you money, but it's stolen, would you take it?

Would you take more money than you paid in? (In our current tax system, 60 percent of Americans currently take up more in services than they pay in taxes.)

 

[squarepusher]

lets put it this way, that money is either going to go kill some Iraqi's or Arabs, or feed you and your family.

which do you choose?

 

[TC95]

I'm not on food stamps and I don't want to be.

 

[TC95]

lets put it this way, that money is either going to go kill some Iraqi's or Arabs, or feed you and your family.

which do you choose?

They're not gonna stop killing Arabs just cuz you get on food stamps.

To those who wanna collapse the system, we're not gonna be better off once the system collapses. Welcome to the New World Order world government dictatorship. That's what's in store for you.

 

[RedStripe]

To those who wanna collapse the system, we're not gonna be better off once the system collapses. Welcome to the New World Order world government dictatorship. That's what's in store for you.

I disagree. There are a lot of opposing trends in society, but I don't think the trend towards totalitarianism is strong enough to overcome the chaotic elements which are eroding the foundations of the state-corporate superstructure.

 

[Mini-Me]

I disagree. There are a lot of opposing trends in society, but I don't think the trend towards totalitarianism is strong enough to overcome the chaotic elements which are eroding the foundations of the state-corporate superstructure.

I hope you're right, because we're probably going to find out eventually. As much as I'd rather turn things around gently, collapse just looks a lot more likely.

 

[RedStripe]

I hope you're right, because we're probably going to find out eventually. As much as I'd rather turn things around gently, collapse just looks a lot more likely.

I think it's going to be a steady and long-term decline, with occasional spikes of rapid change here and there.

 

[Mini-Me]

I think it's going to be a steady and long-term decline, with occasional spikes of rapid change here and there.

There's nothing like the prospect of a slow, agonizing death to brighten up my morning.

 

[Working Poor]

I am on FS. I grow a garden too I use fs to buy seeds. I give a lot of what I grow to others. I have been broke and without work for a very long time and now that I am employed I am still not making very much money. I worked at the bar without pay for several months with no pay part time and on most days only made enough to buy my gas and pay some utitility bills. People might say you should not work without a pay check I did negociate this myself and I felt like making tips has been better than have no money at all. I was out of work for 2 years so for me any money at all has been better than nothing at all.

Things are going to change at the bar soon a new partner is buying in and they want to give me a salary and a title. My hard work at the bar has been noted and appericated and soon I will not need food stamps. I am glad of that I don't like needing them. Being that I was largely self employed and regulation of my industry has made the cost of doing business in my feild come to more than I was making I lost all my cerifications and licenses to do my work there was no unemployment check for me just no work and no money I had to do something to stay a float and getting food stamps instead of a check has really been better than nothing and has helped me to at least eat well. I miss doing the work that I have natural ability and years of training in and some would say I should do it anyway with out permision from the government but, doing it that way brings other hassels that could involve the law and I don't have time to go to jal for nobody not even myself. I fought for the right to do what I do without regulation for a long time and some powerful people moved in on it and I could not fight them any longer. So be it. I still have the skills and can use them for my family and dear friends and for survival.

 

[Jordan]

I don't think there is anything too particularly awful about food stamps, or the people who use them, especially people who have children at home. I do expect, though, that you use them in places where you'll get the most bang for your buck. You shouldn't be using food stamps to buy specialty pizzas from Papa Murphy's.

Side note: A friend of mine worked at a Papa Murphy's and said about half of the customers used foodstamps, and ironically, that same half of the customer base complained about the price.

The economy flippin' sucks, and if you need a small amount of money to make sure you can eat, I don't have a problem with that. However, I do have a problem with people who use them from 18 years old to 88 years old. At some point, it's about time you give back.

 

[IPSecure]

wwrpd?

 

[goopc]

I think you’re fully justified in taking as much from the government as you can (legally or illegally). It’s a criminal organization who extorts money from people through the threat of force and through counterfeiting. The stolen money can’t reasonably be returned to its rightful owners, so you are justified in taking whatever you can.

Suppose you came upon a group running a protection racket. Would it be ethical to seal the racketeers’ stolen money? I think it would be.

The government uses money to expand statism. You can use the money to fight statism.

 

[amy31416]

I don't think there is anything too particularly awful about food stamps, or the people who use them, especially people who have children at home. I do expect, though, that you use them in places where you'll get the most bang for your buck. You shouldn't be using food stamps to buy specialty pizzas from Papa Murphy's.

Side note: A friend of mine worked at a Papa Murphy's and said about half of the customers used foodstamps, and ironically, that same half of the customer base complained about the price.

The economy flippin' sucks, and if you need a small amount of money to make sure you can eat, I don't have a problem with that. However, I do have a problem with people who use them from 18 years old to 88 years old. At some point, it's about time you give back.

Wait, what? You can go to a pizza place and use food stamps???

 

[Jordan]

Wait, what? You can go to a pizza place and use food stamps???

Papa Murphy's sells raw pizzas. So, yes, due to the fact it has not yet been cooked, they can be sold as groceries.

Bullshit? Definitely.

Makes you want to start a Papa Murphy's and put it right in the middle of the ghetto? Definitely.

 

[squarepusher]

Papa Murphy's sells raw pizzas. So, yes, due to the fact it has not yet been cooked, they can be sold as groceries.

Bullshit? Definitely.

Makes you want to start a Papa Murphy's and put it right in the middle of the ghetto? Definitely.

heheh

btw: I looked into it, and other than an automobile, any asset you have willfurther disqualify you from being able to receive food stamps. So, its not a like Social Security, Unemployment or Medicare, where even if you are a multimillionaire, you can collect. Having a bank account qwith savings, owning property, investment accounts, anything besides an automobile that can be considered an "Asset" will disqualify you

 

[Working Poor]

Papa Murphy's sells raw pizzas. So, yes, due to the fact it has not yet been cooked, they can be sold as groceries.

Bullshit? Definitely.

Makes you want to start a Papa Murphy's and put it right in the middle of the ghetto? Definitely.

I wish I could start one for sure.
I personally don't think there is anything wrong with buying a piza with food stamps what the hell you can buy frozen pizza on FS or, do you not think people on food stamps deserve fresh foods?

There are low wage earners like me who are tired when they get home and don't have the energy to make a pizza from scratch and it probably doesn't cost as much to buy it pre made as it does to make it from scratch children love pizza and there are worse things they could be eating than a nice fresh pizza..

What makes me irrate is not being able to buy certain herb teas because they are considered medicines or too nutritious...

 

[Jordan]

I wish I could start one for sure.
I personally don't think there is anything wrong with buying a piza with food stamps what the hell you can buy frozen pizza on FS or, do you not think people on food stamps deserve fresh foods?

There are low wage earners like me who are tired when they get home and don't have the energy to make a pizza from scratch and it probably doesn't cost as much to buy it pre made as it does to make it from scratch children love pizza and there are worse things they could be eating than a nice fresh pizza..

Well, I'm not saying they don't deserve fresh foods. I'm just saying I'd rather food stamps be spent on something that isn't marked up 100%+.

Papa Murphy's pizzas are no cheaper than Pizza Hut/Papa John's/Domino's. In fact, a number of their specialty pizzas are far more expensive than other outlets.

 

[amy31416]

I wish I could start one for sure.
I personally don't think there is anything wrong with buying a piza with food stamps what the hell you can buy frozen pizza on FS or, do you not think people on food stamps deserve fresh foods?

There are low wage earners like me who are tired when they get home and don't have the energy to make a pizza from scratch and it probably doesn't cost as much to buy it pre made as it does to make it from scratch children love pizza and there are worse things they could be eating than a nice fresh pizza..

What makes me irrate is not being able to buy certain herb teas because they are considered medicines or too nutritious...

I make my own pizza, people on food stamps can too. It's not as if we're talking healthy "fresh" food here.

It's dirt cheap to make from scratch--flour, yeast, water, salt, tomato sauce and mozzarella.

I'm not trying to be harsh, but come on. You want convenience foods or specialty items, fine--don't use other people's money to buy it.

 

[Meatwasp]

I voted wrong. I would defiantly NOT get on food stamps. I voted number three. Ugh

 

[Travlyr]

I think you’re fully justified in taking as much from the government as you can (legally or illegally). It’s a criminal organization who extorts money from people through the threat of force and through counterfeiting. The stolen money can’t reasonably be returned to its rightful owners, so you are justified in taking whatever you can.

Suppose you came upon a group running a protection racket. Would it be ethical to seal the racketeers’ stolen money? I think it would be.

The government uses money to expand statism. You can use the money to fight statism.

This is "right on" in my view! I don't need them. But, take them if you can get them because it's not going to last much longer anyway.

As the economic collapse continues & matures, many honest folks will contemplate how they messed up so bad. And for the most part, they didn't. Good folks spend their time working & playing by the rules while the elite steals away as if they deserve the wealth of their slaves. The final "slight of hand" will soon be obvious. It's sad really, that people believed the teacher, the preacher and the experts on TV.

The bankers have stolen at least 1/3 of your wealth... maybe more like 1/2. Imagine what it is going to be like when the free market "caveat emptor" finally wins out over these thieves, again. At first it will be tough. But then, after the dust settles, everyone will be much more prosperous and content, again. The really "good times" come when honest money begins and the counterfeiting ends.