Poll: 70% of Americans Want Death Penalty for Tsarnaev if guilty 27% Oppose

Actually I started this scenario and "maimed" is the criteria I gave...:o


tod evans said:
I'd like to see the fate of the guilty decided by the families of the dead and those who were maimed..

Not the media, and certainly not the "Just-Us" department...
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MelissaWV said:
It is, especially since a large number have other extensive soft tissue damage caused by projectiles and were in surgery to try to salvage limbs... but they don't have a claim in this scenario because they got to keep the limb (whether or not it's of much use).
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I would like to know the inhabitants of what planets within which solar systems would be considered, that a "jury of his piers" could be found that have not been biased or compromised.
 
Slutter McGee said:
From Wikipedia:



Some people just deserve to die.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee
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Why? Because what he did offends people?

The death penalty is wrong on so many levels that I wonder how anyone in this movement can still believe in it.

Maybe we keep him alive and he cures cancer. Or he works at a job and the money feeds hungry kids. Killing him will prevent him from killing but it also prevents him from doing any good. Even if he's economically useless and we can learn nothing by studying him it's still dangerous to kill him. People in this movement love to talk about blowback. The moral and philosophical blowback from executing someone should be obvious.

Oh, but if we have perfect information, and those closest to the victim want to kill him then we should. Is this ever possible? Can we know whether the cops, the witnesses, the judges, the DA, the lawyers, if they ever made a moral compromise or used deception to insure his death? In my opinion we're making a moral compromise by supporting this ridiculous idea at all.

Oh, but the family! Who cares? The victim of murder will never get justice. And if are Christian you believe that she is with God. Is Christ going to console her with the promise that the murderer will be executed? Does the victim want her murderer to be executed?

All that aside the movement will probably never have a consensus on this issue (even though it definitely should) therefore it's a non-issue when it comes to a strategy. So it's not a political end goal. We should at least have a consensus on that fact.

If you want a political end goal how about this. You can sign your drivers license to indicate you will donate your organs upon your death. How about we pass a law that allows all citizens to indicate via a government form whether they want their would be murderer to be sentenced to death via "due process". Let the parents choose for their kids so they can deal with the fact that their kids will grow up and say "why did you do that? that's not right".

So let's do it. I like this idea. I think I'll start a petition for everyone that wants their potential murderer to be sentenced to death. It's actually brilliant. This way the murderers are more likely to kill the people who don't sign the petition then do because they'll be afraid of the death penalty! Then the people who don't sign will be scared that they will be targeted unfairly so they'll get scared and sign the petition too! It's genius! [/sarcasm]
 
Ender said:
Oh, yeah! Those famous "official unnamed sources".

Riiiiiight.

The kid's confession should speed up internet censorship and keep the ME conflicts going beautifully.

How convenient.
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At least I posted a source. Do you have anything to suggest Tsarnaev hasn't admitted anything to police, other than your own wishful thinking?
 
the WMD charge opens him up to the death penalty.
massachusetts does not usually execute people now.
its a civilian court, not a military tribunal, but if found
guilty, he can be executed if he does not spend at least
twenty to thirty years behind bars inside a federal prison.
 
RonPaulFanInGA said:
At least I posted a source. Do you have anything to suggest Tsarnaev hasn't admitted anything to police, other than your own wishful thinking?
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Ahhh.... so doubts raised by lack of evidence are now called "wishful thinking". And of course what ever the Salon says must be true.

I think the article that donnay posted by Paul Craig Roberts in much closer to the mark than any MSM:

Where is the evidence of a first shoot-out and a second shoot-out? The second shoot- out consisted of the authorities bombarding a motionless youth bleeding from wounds in a boat with multiple volleys of stun grenades and then multiple gunshots. The unconscious 19 year old was unarmed and unable to respond to the boat owner who discovered him. As he lies there, he is shot many times, including through the throat, and is on life support. But the very next day, according to the presstitute media, he is providing hand-written confessions.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?413156-You-Are-The-Hope&p=5006368#post5006368
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Who really cares about these polls? It's not like they went around interviewing every single American. This isn't to say that there isn't a large amount of bloodthirsty residents of the United States, but I think it's really annoying when news sites try to pass this off as "we polled ALL Americans, and this is what they had to say."
 
SkepticalMetal said:
Who really cares about these polls? It's not like they went around interviewing every single American. This isn't to say that there isn't a large amount of bloodthirsty residents of the United States
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I don't think wanting to kill a mass murderer makes someone bloodthirsty.

but I think it's really annoying when news sites try to pass this off as "we polled ALL Americans, and this is what they had to say."
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I don't think any news site claims they polled all Americans ever.

Polls CAN be manipulated. But it is also true that when polls are used correctly they are usually accurate within a margin of error. Companies make billion dollar decisions off polling data. They wouldn't do this if the information they provided wasn't accurate.
 
SkepticalMetal said:
Who really cares about these polls? It's not like they went around interviewing every single American. This isn't to say that there isn't a large amount of bloodthirsty residents of the United States
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I don't think wanting to kill a mass murderer makes someone bloodthirsty.

but I think it's really annoying when news sites try to pass this off as "we polled ALL Americans, and this is what they had to say."
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I don't think any news site claims they polled all Americans ever.

Polls CAN be manipulated. But it is also true that when polls are used correctly they are usually accurate within a margin of error. Companies make billion dollar decisions off polling data. They wouldn't do this if the information they provided wasn't accurate.
 
Again-

How about innocent until proven guilty?

Then it is time for sentencing.
 
It will just be a sham kangaroo court anyway. So the question is essentially moot.
 
I've heard the argument that goes something like this: I don't trust the government to to do _________ so why would I trust them to put someone to death.
 
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