Politico: Ron Paul on gun control

[Man from La Mancha]

But does it make it so that you can connect a gun or bullets to a person if found at a crime scene?

watch CSI, many other techniques

 

[quickmike]

But does it make it so that you can connect a gun or bullets to a person if found at a crime scene?

Sure it would. But what kind of criminal would use a registered gun to commit a crime. They would simply buy one on the black market. Even if it was registered, they wouldnt leave it at the crime scene anyway. Pretty pointless law which does more damage than any small benefit that it might have in 5% of gun crimes.

 

[cmason]

But does it make it so that you can connect a gun or bullets to a person if found at a crime scene?

Yes, because criminals always use their valid ID and real name and follow all proper procedures to register a weapon before using it to commit a crime.

 

[pcosmar]

But does it make it so that you can connect a gun or bullets to a person if found at a crime scene?

Not if the gun was stolen.
The preferred way for criminals to acquire.
Most honest folks are not killing or robing.

 

[pcosmar]

But does it make it so that you can connect a gun or bullets to a person if found at a crime scene?

With this logic (or lack) we should register Knives, ropes, sticks, rocks, and hands.

 

[quickmike]

Yes, because criminals always use their valid ID and real name and follow all proper procedures to register a weapon before using it to commit a crime.

YEAH .......... GUN STORE OWNER "so what can I interest you in today sir?"......... CRIMINAL "oh I dont know, what do you have in a good bank robbery gun?"

 

[quickmike]

With this logic (or lack) we should register Knives, ropes, sticks, rocks, and hands.

Chuck Norris should have to register his hands though......... that would be the exception. Chuck once stopped a bullet just by looking at it.......... fell cold to the floor.

 

[mport1]

I'm not necessarily in support of registering, just not quite sure what exactly the procedures were for getting a gun or what registering does. I'm fully in support of the right to bear arms.

 

[TrybalRage]

I'm not necessarily in support of registering, just not quite sure what exactly the procedures were for getting a gun or what registering does. I'm fully in support of the right to bear arms.

Depends on your state.

I could tell quickmike was from a state like Illinois when he mentioned 'registered' and 'permit' to buy a gun.

Here in PA, I walk in, fill out some paperwork, and walk out with my new gun. Hell, a concealed carry permit was $19 and good for 5 years (although I would much prefer Vermont-style carry).

Gun owners have a saying - "registration leads to confiscation". Perfect example is California's .50 caliber ban.

 

[beermotor]

I don't think automobiles should be registered either, or safety inspected for that matter, is just more revenue generation for the state. If you don't maintain your car, it will eventually break down, and you'll pay someone to fix it, so why have to get inspected just so someone can say its working? Likewise using the autos can kill people too argument, if you have an unsafe vehicle or commit a crime with one, you should be responsible for any penalties that arise from this.
Gas taxes pay for roadwork, not car registration, drivers licenses, or safety inspections.

AMEN. My wife had to pay 442$ this morning to get her damn car tag for the next year. If this isn't a complete and total racket, I don't know what is. I am so sick of THEFT at all levels. I cannot wait to get into local politics, I'm sure I could get elected just by pledging to end all these ridiculous fees.

 

[BillyBeer]

Too bad people in CA, NY, and most of America will never have the Constitutional Freedom to carry a gun.

 

[qednick]

This is what happens to a country when guns are banned and people are not allowed to [legally] defend themselves:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/01/nrstab101.xml

This is just one article from one of today's newspapers in Britain.

 

[SWATH]

What does registration actually do? Is it at all helpful in trying to solve a crime after the fact?

What registration does is a brilliant slight of hand manuver that transforms a right into a priveledge. You now have to ask permission from the government to exercise an inalienable right. What the government giveth, the government can taketh away.

Take the 1986 machine gun ban for example: From 1934 until 1986 all machine guns had to be registered. There were some objections to this but the government basically said that "look, were not banning them that would be unconstitutional, but all were asking is that if you want one you must pay a tax and have it registered". Ok fine the people went along with it, but what happened in 1986? The government decided to CLOSE THE REGISTRY and no longer accept new entries, effectively instituting a de facto ban.