POLITICO: Ron Paul aides ponder ‘frustrating’ race

[NewRightLibertarian]

I don't buy that it's people not showing up to vote. It's a conspiracy. It's great though that this campaign is showing people that the whole system is rigged

 

[Wooden Indian]

I'm young and I'll be voting. My physical body isn't lazy and I'm wide awake. Asshat

...and best of all... you're obviously super mature, Mr. DearailingDaTrain! Your post above screams volumes attesting to that. ::snicker::

Seriously, though...
Thanks for promising your vote to RP. Now, please understand that not all young people actually follow through with their convictions at the same rate as the older generations whom make up the largest portion of the voting public.

LOL-"asshat"... Jeesh.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

You are joking right? I'll be banned for sure..lol.

[redacted by mod]. Everyone likes to come on here and say "The campaign is stupid, I have been saying this, this and this for X number of months on this here internet message board and nobody ever listens". Yeah, you're the smart one. You're so smart that, even without a formal edgecation, you know better than the people who were hired specifcally for the purpose of winning the election. And yet, you dismiss the possibility that a good job was done but it didn't matter because the establishment is working against us.

Stupid, stupid, stupid. That's all I can say.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

It's 2008 all over again. Except the only difference between 2008, and this time...is the campaign hired a PROFESSIONAL ad company.
If anybody can explain how the campaign LOST Iowa to Santorum and Romney, other than by FAILING to be prepared for an issue they KNEW about for almost two decades, and by FAILING to address the foreign policy issue in a MEANINGFUL way to the voters...then perhaps they deserve more money. The truth is, this campaign and RP, has the most dedicated small number of supporters, with the most enthusiasm there is...and they are an absolute failure from the top down.

How do you have supporters soooo dedicated, they give time/money/efforts more than any other candidate out there, yet the campaign can't put together a winning strategy to fix/solve the issues holding them back?
There is NO excuse for it...NONE.

We hate government waste, and we should hate campaign waste.

If Campaign for Liberty is such a vital organization, then perhaps the staffers at it should have remained there, and RP and family should have hired a professional group to run his campaign. What I see is that CFL's staff basically went on leave, got jobs at RP's campaign, and will transition back to CFL after all is said/done...

I'd say vote fraud and wild accusations from people on internet message boards who don't know what the hell they're talking about (such as yourself) is a pretty good excuse.

 

[Wooden Indian]

I won't dismiss the possibility of voter fraud. This certainly wouldn't be the first election with claims of it from all sides.

However, from my own personal experience, the main problem has been getting those that say they are commited out of bed, into their car, and down to their precinct. Sorry if the truth stings... but RP "voters" are not the same exuberant crowd that is a RP supporter. Two different beasts.

 

[Bossobass]

Mortgage fraud was so blatant and prevalent, all 50 states Attorneys General had opened investigations.

The Bush administration used the OCC to order all 50 states investigations be dropped as it was "a Federal matter".

Iraq had no WMD. We're still there.

Paulsen demanded Congress give him $750 Billion... or else. What ensued behind closed doors, with no oversight, was the lending of $16 TRILLION of taxpayer money.

Timmy and Benny ordered Ken Lewis to NOT disclose the huge losses on Merrill's books, or they would replace him and the entire board of directors.

AIG funneled bailout cash out the back door to Goldman Sachs, which executives promptly devoured in a bonus spree to themselves.

AG Holder facilitated arms sales to Mexican drug cartels resulting in the shooting death of a US border agent.

$2 TRILLION has "gone missing" from the Pentagon's books. In 11 years, not a dime has been recovered.

ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, FOX and PBS conspired to black Ron Paul out of the media. Watch any of them and see for yourself. RP supporters tend to only watch RP highlights videos on YT, shielding them from the absolute blackout, where RP's name in not even mentioned. Watch the MSNBC Super Tuesday special coverage intro. 3 men's pictures, 3 men mentioned repeatedly.

But hey, that conspiracy crap don't go with us 'cause we know for a fact that the GOP isn't that organized and would never engage in political fraud.

Bosso

 

[Guzabuza]

Mortgage fraud was so blatant and prevalent, all 50 states Attorneys General had opened investigations.

The Bush administration used the OCC to order all 50 states investigations be dropped as it was "a Federal matter".

Iraq had no WMD. We're still there.

Paulsen demanded Congress give him $750 Billion... or else. What ensued behind closed doors, with no oversight, was the lending of $16 TRILLION of taxpayer money.

Timmy and Benny ordered Ken Lewis to NOT disclose the huge losses on Merrill's books, or they would replace him and the entire board of directors.

AIG funneled bailout cash out the back door to Goldman Sachs, which executives promptly devoured in a bonus spree to themselves.

AG Holder facilitated arms sales to Mexican drug cartels resulting in the shooting death of a US border agent.

$2 TRILLION has "gone missing" from the Pentagon's books. In 11 years, not a dime has been recovered.

ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, FOX and PBS conspired to black Ron Paul out of the media. Watch any of them and see for yourself. RP supporters tend to only watch RP highlights videos on YT, shielding them from the absolute blackout, where RP's name in not even mentioned. Watch the MSNBC Super Tuesday special coverage intro. 3 men's pictures, 3 men mentioned repeatedly.

But hey, that conspiracy crap don't go with us 'cause we know for a fact that the GOP isn't that organized and would never engage in political fraud.

Bosso

Hahaah EPIC!! AWESOME!! If only Rp could talk like that in the debates he would already had the nomination !!! =)

nice !!!!!!!!

ps: you forgot to add Pm price manipulation into that list!

 

[PaulConventionWV]

TRUE.

I still don't get this whole "Ron's to humble to wear his religion on his sleeve.." umm... what!? Look at the press with Santorum! They actually seem to respect him MORE because of how shamelessly he pandered to evangelicals before all the recent caucuses. They're honestly asking him questions like "hey Rick, now that you've secured the religious vote, do you plan to tone down the "language" a bit??"

I'm sorry, but I think it's seriously messed up that Ron (and his 2 minister brothers) weren't f'in willing to DO WHAT NEEDED TO BE DONE TO WIN after we sent him $30 F**IN MILLION.

No one was asking him to change his positions... just to pander a little bit to win some of their support. Jesus!

Nobody forced you to donate. I suspect you knew what you would get. I donate because I believe in the cause, not because I think my hard-earned dollars can actually tip the election. That's not going to happen.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Old people don't want change. Change means the checks might get interrupted. Just keep the checks coming. Ron Paul means change. The others don't. Ron Paul recognizes that we have serious problems and wants to correct them. The other ones don't. The young want the problems solved. The old don't. They don't care if there are more or less jobs - because they're done with jobs. They want the standard Republican program, they're standard Republicans.

I disagree with some of what you are saying, but this is a very good point. It also highlights why the "the campaign strategy is stupid because they don't target seniors" is just retarded and shows that people who say this don't know anything about campaigning except when they brag on a message board about how smart they are because they "were right all along."

 

[PaulConventionWV]

A semblance of truth, rather than excuses

The campaign is running against three guys, but the reality is ... Ron is running against the MSM ... They, for whatever reason, can't seem to figure this out.

Oh, no, they know. The problem is that the media and the GOP establishment cannot be beaten. If they are, they will lie and say they won.

 

[ctiger2]

FRAUD

Fraud and Apathy

 

[odamn]

The Campaign's doing just fine ... except that we're not being funded by Goldman and the Banksters.
or Santa's lobbyists, or Ginrixhs'es casino buddies ... and ,yes the fraud is the best Money can buy.
Donate as much as you can, as often as you can, or put a sock in it.

 

[libertygrl]

PFFTTT. Vote fraud, dude. That's all it is. You're too blinded by your little blame game to see it.

Yeah, I just can't imagine people taking the time to go to a rally and are all pumped up by a candidate whom they hope will change things for the better, and then they don't vote for him???? I mean, I could be wrong but I just can't buy that. From the very beginning before the primries were in full swing, didn't we hear some GOP state party leaders openly admit that Ron Paul is too dangerous and that he shouldn't be allowed to win?

I agree that the campaign should target older voters as well, but you can't deny that when the Obama campaign targeted younger voters it was a driving force for success. I don't blame the RP campaign for thinking along these lines.

 

[RDM]

I'm just amused at all the comments by the ostriches wearing rose colored glasses.

 

[klamath]

Newt attacks the media to their faces, and gets applause in the debates.Jon Stewart shows the media's stupidity, and makes millions...

The campaign complains about media coverage (rightly so), but ignores media requests (bad choice IMO).

If the MSM is the mouthpiece for these organizations, the best way to wake up more people could be to attack the mouthpiece. When the MSM loses credibility, that has a net gain on many fronts...people become more willing to watch YouTube videos, read articles, and perhaps even read a book that is suggested by somebody OUTSIDE of the MSM.

RP's campaign and/or a PAC could destroy Glenn Beck's credibility (to those that think he has any), by simply showing Rick's votes for big government (No Child Left Behind, etc.) and Glenn's "He is the next George Washington." LOL...Beck should have at least admitted he was doing a comedy act.

You are using a poor example, Look what happened to Newt. They exposed every rotten thing in his past and destroyed him. Sure the people clapped and supported him but in the following weeks why do you think they developed a bad taste in their mouth for him? It wasn't anything he said it was what the media reported on him in the following weeks that developed that bad taste.

 

[Philosophy_of_Politics]

Obama: Rallies the youth vote. His vote totals were reflected.

Ron Paul: Rallies the youth vote: His vote totals are not reflected.

Conspiracy? I doubt it.

 

[Philosophy_of_Politics]

edit.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

We and the campaign made a horrible miscalculation. We shouldve focused on states that voted first... because the results of those states will alter the outcome of the later states on the same day. I should make a thread about this later =s.

We have been doing this... since 2008. I know because I was there at the WV GOP convention in 2008. Ron Paul was there and so were all the other candidates except John McCain who was represented by someone. They did it because, although the results of WV were fairly non-important in the scheme of things, it was one of the first states to vote on Super Tuesday. This has always been the campaign's strategy. They know this because even the most simple campaign strategists can figure that out.

The thing that irks me sometimes is that people come up with these unbearably simple solutions to some of our campaign's "problems" and they never stop to think that even the most retarded campaign staff could figure this stuff out. What makes them think that they know so much better than the staff and that the campaign is simply ignorant. Maybe the strategy goes deeper than they can understand because they are not trained to know this stuff.

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

Obama: Rallies the youth vote. His vote totals were reflected.

Ron Paul: Rallies the youth vote: His vote totals are not reflected.

Conspiracy? I doubt it.

More likely is the explanation that Ron's support just comes mostly outside the GOP. There have been several polls that state that up to 66% - yes, 66% - of Ron's support comes from people who belong to parties other than the GOP.

His numbers with the GOP base are abysmal, as are his numbers in the South.

I'm not sure what the point of waiting for a long term takeover is. Our national debt is greater than our GNP. The gig's up, it's almost time for all of us to go John the Baptist and reach as many people before it falls apart.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Election fraud is a crime. If there is indeed credible evidence of election fraud, then the people who have the evidence need to contact a lawyer and file suit with the state Attorney General's office.

They'll never win. The case will be dismissed.