Political commentator Jack Hunter, FreedomWorks Director Austin Petersen attack Alex Jones

[sailingaway]

Those who supported Ron supported his decision not to pursue the nomination. Those who tried to force him to were not supporting him. You banned people for not joining you in your efforts against him.

But no, that's not what my statement was about in the post you quoted in the post of yours to which I was replying, to which you replied with the post to which I am replying here.

You are the one who brought in Rand. Ron wasn't being forced, which was my response. If someone actually wants the facts of it I will post them, but I'm not going around on this topic with you, who already know them.

 

[specsaregood]

One thing is true, our enemies are better united than us. The last thing we need is more divisive pricks.

 

[CaptLouAlbano]

Anyone who disagrees with you is just a Coincidence Theorist!

Haha. I suppose so.

But seriously (and this is my last post on this for the day), yesterday morning Alex Jones had a choice to make. He could keep his calm, stay on topic and make the case for gun rights. Or he could refuse to take off his shoes at the airport and then fly off the handle during the show saying some pretty wild soundbites. Hmmm which one is going to get me the most attention? Ca-ching.

Ok, I have said enough. No one needs to get their panties in a bunch about all of this either way. Stay safe folks, and have a great day!

 

[erowe1]

You are the one who brought in Rand.

That was on the topic of this website's mission in reply to someone else who seemed to be under the impression that the kind of anti-"Ron Paul, Inc." stuff that is allowed here for now will continue to be even when it becomes counterproductive to us.

No, Ron fortunately didn't end up being forced to accept or turn down the nomination. But some people were trying to force him. And you did everything you could to hijack this website to support them in that. Maybe the same types of people think they still have an ally here, since you're still a mod. And maybe for now they still do. But if you think that will continue, who are you trying to kid?

 

[sailingaway]

That was on the topic of this website's mission in reply to someone else who seemed to be under the impression that the kind of anti-"Ron Paul, Inc." stuff that is allowed here for now will continue to be even when it becomes counterproductive to us.

No, Ron fortunately didn't end up being forced to accept or turn down the nomination. But some people were trying to force him. And you did everything you could to hijack this website to support them in that. Maybe the same types of people think they still have an ally here, since you're still a mod. And maybe for now they still do. But if you think that will continue, who are you trying to kid?

This website and certainly Ron's forum which at that time even had a mission statement saying it was in support of his run, was supporting Ron through convention. Suggesting doing precisely what the website was for was hijacking it is ludicrous. Telling people it was impossible for Ron to get 5 states, as some who wanted people's efforts elsewhere were doing, or that Ron didn't want it, as Tate's own email clarifies was untrue (which I posted the link to above) was going against that purpose.

You have reached a level of spin where I am going to disengage and let you twirl on your own.

 

[erowe1]

This website and certainly Ron's forum which at that time even had a mission statement saying it was in support of his run, was supporting Ron through convention.

That's a lie. You know full well that you actively prohibited people from supporting Ron's decision not to pursue the nomination in that forum. The only opinion allowed was from those who went against him. You repeatedly deleted posts that only went so far as to encourage people merely to ask themselves the question of whether or not Ron wanted what they were pursuing.

 

[cajuncocoa]

The people offended aren't the base. If they ever were, those days are gone. We here are plowing ahead, right there with Hunter, Petersen, Rand, Amash, Bentivolio, etc. The day will come fairly soon that those who intend to be counterproductive to this will not last here.

You made a similar statement to me yesterday. What makes you think you get to determine who will be purged from this board?

 

[AGRP]

Haha. I suppose so.

But seriously (and this is my last post on this for the day), yesterday morning Alex Jones had a choice to make. He could keep his calm, stay on topic and make the case for gun rights. Or he could refuse to take off his shoes at the airport and then fly off the handle during the show saying some pretty wild soundbites. Hmmm which one is going to get me the most attention? Ca-ching.

Ok, I have said enough. No one needs to get their panties in a bunch about all of this either way. Stay safe folks, and have a great day!

Thats his role. To act like a raving lunatic like Jim Jones to discredit anything of serious value. Then whatever he espouses is then seen as a crazy view. "Oh, gun rights? Didnt that crazy person on tv advocate that?"

 

[cajuncocoa]

Go right ahead and schmooze to your heart's delight, be assimilated all you like. The old guard will keep on, keepin on and hold the torch while you look back and wonder how you got compromised right into the same mess you were trying to change. But do not think for one second that you watered down so called activists are going to push us out.

and +rep!

 

[cajuncocoa]

The only reason Jack Hunter, Jesse Benton, Collins, etc keep attacking anyone who doesn't agree with their strategy, is because they are jockeying for power and control of a "movement" they can barely understand.

We could have all just gotten along, but it appears that the continuance of these attacks just furthers the division. so be it.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to ninepointfive again.

 

[alsis8xmy]

But seriously (and this is my last post on this for the day), yesterday morning Alex Jones had a choice to make. He could keep his calm, stay on topic and make the case for gun rights. Or he could refuse to take off his shoes at the airport and then fly off the handle during the show saying some pretty wild soundbites. Hmmm which one is going to get me the most attention? Ca-ching.

Alex Jones has the echo chamber in full swing with post after post, thread after thread and blog post after blog post, I think it was a grand slam for Jones. If he was impassionate at this interview there would hardly be any discussion the next day. This is a huge win, there were more truth bombs packed into that interview than any I have seen recently. If he kept calm it would have been a big FAIL. Don't fault AJ for being AJ, it's what he does and he does it well.

Capt, my troll radar is starting to alert.

 

[twomp]

Here's a rule from the forum guidelines:


This does apply to being antagonistic against the campaigns that we are promoting when they're going on. People who want to do that may be able to up through 2014. But once Rand becomes the flagship here, then, yes, they will be pushed out. You probably know this already.

LOL! You do realize this is a forum right? A virtual space on the internet? Ain't no one getting "pushed out". Not by you or anybody else. If they want to stay and post here, what can you do about it? Besides whine that is.

 

[erowe1]

LOL! You do realize this is a forum right? A virtual space on the internet? Ain't no one getting "pushed out". Not by you or anybody else. If they want to stay and post here, what can you do about it? Besides whine that is.

Don't get me wrong, I wasn't speaking as someone with any authority. It was just a prediction. You probably know it was accurate, unless you really didn't know that people had been banned from here.

 

[Tpoints]

Young newbies attack their veteran pioneer mentor, classy!

 

[belian78]

Don't get me wrong, I wasn't speaking as someone with any authority. It was just a prediction. You probably know it was accurate, unless you really didn't know that people had been banned from here.

With all the elitism coming from the Ron Paul Inc. crowd these days I'd say this site is in a perilous spot already. If those of us that hold principle over all are pushed out, the site will be officially dead.

 

[AuH20]

Hunter is wrong in his analysis, judging Jones by the contrived political rules. Jones program is more of a precursor to something far more revolutionary. Politics by nature confines and restrains change under false pretenses.

 

[itshappening]

Alex Jones is an entertainer and self-styled truth teller.

He is not running a political campaign...

Detractors need to remember that. It's not his job to win votes. We are diverse enough to have different opinions.

 

[itshappening]

Don't get me wrong, I wasn't speaking as someone with any authority. It was just a prediction. You probably know it was accurate, unless you really didn't know that people had been banned from here.

who was banned and why?

 

[Tpoints]

Alex Jones is an entertainer and self-styled truth teller.

He is not running a political campaign...

Detractors need to remember that. It's not his job to win votes. We are diverse enough to have different opinions.

yep, his job is to speak what people want to hear and make money doing it.

 

[erowe1]

who was banned and why?

Hundreds of people, for lots of reasons. But when we're in campaign mode here, which we aren't right now, then fighting against our campaign efforts has definitely resulted in people being banned.