Political commentator Jack Hunter, FreedomWorks Director Austin Petersen attack Alex Jones

They wont. Using a nonviolent raving lunatic talkshow host that most of america doesn't recognize as your poster boy will fail. If they want posterboys for gun control they will just use one of the many murderers.

As I said in my post - it is probably an overreaction on their part. Last night was mutually beneficial for both parties because people are talking about them, and that is what media personalities want. The more attention they get the more money they make.
 
Alex did what he did to gain attention for himself. It's why he agreed to go on the show, it's why he acted up at the airport, and it's why he went full nutjob on air.
 
Were you not entertained?

I didn't even watch, but all the same, I'm on Alex's side.

Look, if he doesn't represent you, (he doesn't represent me) what does it matter? He was him, not any of us. seems to me that the 'libertarian' thing to do is say he is him, we are respectively us, and he speaks as his own person. Not that I claim the label for myself, necessarily, I just think that being upset that someone is defending a position in a way you consider to be substandard is good reason for tweets that defend it better, not tearing down the guy on the spot.

I've liked Austin Peterson in some stuff, but this seems elitist, honestly.
 
Petersen was previously associate producer of Freedom Watch, so he's very close to Judge Napolitano. He's the guy who got Napolitano to speak at the FreePAC events and to endorse Connie Mack for Senate in Florida. He also used to work for the Libertarian National Committee. He now works with Julie Borowski at FreedomWorks.

Jack Hunter is a chief ghostwriter for Rand Paul and Jim DeMint. He was also heavily involved with the Ron Paul 2012 campaign and sometimes co-hosts Mike Church's radio talk show as writes for the Pat Buchanan affiliated magazine, The American Conservative.

Neither are strangers to the liberty movement. That's why I posted this on here. As I've said, I don't agree with their view on Jones, but I do agree Jones could have handled this interview better.
I know who they are, I just don't know why I should care what they had to say about it. IMO, that's one of the problems with the liberty movement right now....we care too much what people think. I'm pretty sure most people have already made up their minds as to how they feel about losing yet another Constitutional right. If they haven't, they're not paying attention anyway.

Kudos to Alex Jones for taking a stand and doing it boldly and without apology. We need more of that.
 
I don't find any discussion of limiting our rights to be entertaining. You do?

I tend to agree with you a lot on here, but keep this charade last night in perspective. Jones was being Jones - the character he has built over the years. At the end of the day, this isn't about moving the debate in one direction or another, but about how many DVD's, water-filtration systems and website subscriptions are sold.
 
I was about to gouge my ear drums during that shout fest. He made Morgan look rational, and you must have screwed up big time to accomplish such a feat.
 
Do you folks remember Morton Downey Jr? Same thing here folks, a big portion of it is an act.
 
We have a ton of elitists here. Even at Jones' enemy Glenn Beck's site theblaze.com people are cheering Alex.
 
Alex did what he did to gain attention for himself. It's why he agreed to go on the show, it's why he acted up at the airport, and it's why he went full nutjob on air.

And on the same note it was a win-win for Morgan. Reflect back on the last month or so with Morgan - his show was failing, no one was watching him. So he makes some extreme statements about gun control and everyone is talking about him. Then the petition comes around - more attention. Then he makes those controversial statements about the Bible (i.e. let me find another group to piss off) and gets more attention. He has to keep the ball rolling, because fame does fleet quickly, so he books Jones, who everyone knows is a ticking time bomb, that's Jones' act, and he gets the result he wanted, and therefore more attention.

And Jones took advantage of the situation as well. He gets called by Morgan's staff, and probably thinks "hey everyone is paying attention to Morgan now, this is a good opportunity to get more fans". And he ups the ante by doing the TSA thing, knowing that it will get him some more attention the day of the TV show.

Of course, we are all sucked into it, because it's entertaining and provocative. If the same debate was exchanged last night between Jim Lehrer and John Lott - minus the fireworks, no one would be talking about it.
 
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All I can say, is that I was in that chair, I would have done the same thing. Minus the volume of my voice. But I would hijack the fuck out of a CNN TV show and personally embarrass Piers. Piers may have won politically, but he looked like such a wimpy little shit last night.

Are we still trying to compromise and play nice with the establishment? Why? I thought we learned from the last year that the system won't allow us to co-opt shit. Ever since this movement went to Washington, it's splintered and became some insecure mess. Why? Because I feel that too many people have gotten the taste of Washington now. We need a little less Jack Hunter, Jesse Benton, Freedomworks type strategy. We used to applaud the in-your-face actions. Like Kokesh at the convention before he took too much DMT. I like that shit. We applaud when it's done in other countries. But here it seems, the new "leaders" of this movement are very comfortable writing articles, Facebook posts, Youtube videos spreading opinions, when it used to be about just spreading KNOWLEDGE.

I don't know, I took Dr. Paul's message quite seriously when he spoke about how we are over the cliff as a nation, and only a change in the voters minds will save us. Playing nice with the media or Washington so that Rand Paul can MAYBE get a cabinet position in 2016 has nothing to do with my freedom.

I sound negative I know. But I see this movement is turning into a lot of different sects trying to influence the overall future of Liberty in this country. We have the FreedomWorks, YAL, Hunter, Youtube celebrity side. That uses words like "purge" when it comes to the Jones crowd. Then I see the old guard of 07, some of which (me included) are so turned off by the political dancing of Liberty candidates, and I guess "pundits". When I read the quotes in the OP, I just see the same media belittling we complain about on a daily basis.

When I read Hunter's comments, or that kid that I think is the President of YAL that always has some snarky FB remark towards the "truther" or "conspiracy crowd", I think of two things:

1) They are just attacking what they don't understand. They are attacking what makes them uncomfortable. They are attacking what they don't believe in. They are attacking what is different. They are attacking what is against their best interest. Sound familiar. And worst of all, they are attacking critical thinking and freedom of expression. I have no time for that. It's sad really.

2) "“The worst thing to call somebody is crazy. It's dismissive. "I don't understand this person. So they're crazy." That's bullshit. These people are not crazy." -Dave Chappelle

Just a shitty job of following Ron Paul's footsteps. You know, the gentleman that never "purged" anyone and pretty much is the reason that YAL guy (or Mr. FreedomWorks) is even important.

I just want to get back to what got us here. Behind the scenes, grassroots efforts to educate the PEOPLE.

But let's instead spend 2 days pointing fingers at an Alex Jones. Like he's the actual reason our 2nd Amendment is under attack. It's under attack because of one thing; mindless masses that proudly admit to ignoring politics, unless Anderson Cooper tells them some something is important.

"Alex Jones hurts our movement!". Movement where? To the White House? To "take our government back!"? Does anyone really believe we are headed in that direction? I'm sure a ton of people here have some plan or theory about how we will take back our liberty through Washington in 2016. But the success I have seen is in the conversations I have on a daily basis. With normal people who see at least some of what we see.

Last night was entertainment, pure and simple. We act as if these individuals owe us something.

I speak for myself, and no one speaks for me. This should be a leaderless effort to educate. Like I think the doctor ordered.
 
We have a ton of elitists here. Even at Jones' enemy Glenn Beck's site theblaze.com people are cheering Alex.

source:http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ale...mmence-again-if-you-try-to-take-our-firearms/

soybomb315_II
Posted on January 7, 2013 at 10:47pm
holy crap – everyone needs to watch those videos. Forget what you think about Alex Jones, this was a classic. Forward it to EVERYONE
stage9
Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:01pm
This is how you man handle a two bit piece of garbage liberal.
El Pistoffo
Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:11pm
I loved, especially the part where he does the accent. LOL. Jones defiantly has a pair and I applaud him for it. He says it as he sees it with no hesitation, no spin. Morgan is a weasel who just brings up the same stupid questions every time. He cant see the big picture and he just got schooled.
your claim appears to be truthful.
 
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