Police Stop, Handcuff Every Adult at Intersection in Search for Bank Robber

[shane77m]

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlin...lt-at-intersection-in-search-for-bank-robber/

"“Once officers got to his car, they found evidence that he was who they were looking for,” Fania said. “When they searched the car, they found two loaded firearms.”

The actions of the police have been met with some criticism, but Fania said this was a unique situation that required an unusual response.

“It’s hard to say what normal is in a situation like this when you haven’t dealt with a situation like this,” Fania said. “The result of the whole ordeal is that it paid off. We have arrested and charged a suspect.”

The other people who had been held at the intersection were allowed to leave once the suspect was apprehended."

A "unique situation"? There will probably be a lot more "unique situations" popping up as the police state grows.

 

[angelatc]

The search lasted between an hour and a half and two hours, and it wasn’t until the final car was searched that police apprehended the suspect.​

I guess that's a ray of sunshine. They didn't keep detaining people after they actually found a real criminal.

 

[UtahApocalypse]

First I would have refused. Then when they forced me I would own the city after my false imprisonment lawsuit.

 

[Yieu]

“Most of the adults were handcuffed, then were told what was going on and were asked for permission to search the car,” Fania said. “They all granted permission, and once nothing was found in their cars, they were un-handcuffed.”

I wonder how far the police would have "felt it necessary" to escalate the situation if one of the innocent people had exercised their right to not allow a search to occur without a warrant?

 

[LibertyEagle]

I wonder how far the police would have "felt it necessary" to escalate the situation if one of the innocent people had exercised their right to not allow a search to occur without a warrant?

Warrants? Those are outdated now. They don't need no stinkin' warrants anymore.

 

[Yieu]

The local story is worse, due to including more details.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/31148237/detail.html

Aurora police stopped dozens of cars and pulled out their drivers at gunpoint looking for a bank robbery suspect Saturday afternoon.

I don't want to endure having a gun pointed at me for standing up for my rights, or for simply being in a particular location. You only point a gun at someone you intend to use it on. To point a gun at someone you do NOT intend to use it on is the greatest insult to them and it literally threatens them with death. It's not some cute little "protocol" that you just do. You don't point a gun at someone like that. Everyone who grew up in a rural family knows this. To do otherwise is to assume we are slaves that can be threatened with death casually.

 

[Bruno]

The local story is worse, due to including more details.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/31148237/detail.html



I don't want to endure having a gun pointed at me for standing up for my rights, or for simply being in a particular location. You only point a gun at someone you intend to use it on. To point a gun at someone you do NOT intend to use it on is the greatest insult to them and it literally threatens them with death. It's not some cute little "protocol" that you just do. You don't point a gun at someone like that. Everyone who grew up in a rural family knows this. To do otherwise is to assume we are slaves that can be threatened with death casually.

+ rep, excellent point

 

[John F Kennedy III]

“Ends Justify the Means” As Cops Illegally Handcuff 40 Innocent Bystanders

“Ends Justify the Means” As Cops Illegally Handcuff 40 Innocent Bystanders

Kurt Nimmo
Infowars.com
June 5, 2012


Police detained and handcuffed forty innocent bystanders after a bank robbery in Aurora, Colorado, on June 4. Nearly two dozen cars were stopped near a Wells Fargo Bank and the occupants held without probable cause as police searched for a suspect.

Police Chief Daniel Oates demonstrated his ignorance of the Fourth Amendment when he told CBS in Denver “the ends justify the means” after the illegal round-up snared a suspect. He described the mass detainment and handcuffing as lawful and necessary.

“The law is clear that investigative detentions are lawful for a reasonable period of time,” Oates said. “Reasonableness is determined by the facts and circumstances at issue, and the facts and circumstances were the suspect was in one of 19 cars.”

Oates then apologized to the innocent bystanders who were terrorized.

Probable cause under the Fourth Amendment is in effect when a person is detained or arrested and is not free to leave. Police can only detain a person when facts are sufficient to warrant an arrest or seizure of an individual.

In Gerstein v. Pugh, the court found that judicial determination of probable cause is required following an arrest. Evidence of crime and that an individual was involved in a crime is required.

A person arrested without probable cause may sue the government and the police.

None of the illegally detained in the Colorado case complained, according to Oates, although people with a better understanding of the Constitution and the Fourth Amendment called the police and objected to the gross violation of liberty.

The incident reveals that many police do not have a rudimentary understanding of the Constitution they are sworn to uphold.


original article here:
http://www.infowars.com/ends-justify-the-means-as-cops-illegally-handcuff-40-innocent-bystanders/

 

[Bruno]

already posted, I did the same thing

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...e-handcuffing-people-and-searching-their-cars

 

[John F Kennedy III]

bump

 

[jkr]

I SEE THE FUTURE!
I SEE 39 WRONGFUL ARREST LAWSUITS.
I SEE THIS "PERSON" WORKING AT KRISPPY CREAM!

the circle is complete, life restores balance...

 

[sparebulb]

First I would have refused. Then when they forced me I would own the city after my false imprisonment lawsuit.

I agree with your sentiment. However, I doubt that there is a high court in this country that would uphold a judgement these days. A case like this would be a wet dream for the police state to establish new precedent for a whole new level of handling the masses.

 

[kuckfeynes]

The window for escape is narrowing...

 

[AmericasLastHope]

Guilty until proven innocent...

Police in Aurora, Colo., searching for suspected bank robbers stopped every car at an intersection, handcuffed all the adults and searched the cars, one of which they believed was carrying the suspect.
Police said they had received what they called a “reliable” tip that the culprit in an armed robbery at a Wells Fargo bank committed earlier was stopped at the red light.
“We didn’t have a description, didn’t know race or gender or anything, so a split-second decision was made to stop all the cars at that intersection, and search for the armed robber,” Aurora police Officer Frank Fania told ABC News.
Officers barricaded the area, halting 19 cars.
“Cops came in from every direction and just threw their car in front of my car,” Sonya Romero, one of the drivers who was handcuffed, told ABC News affiliate KMGH-TV in Denver.
From there, the police went from car to car, removing the passengers and handcuffing the adults.
“Most of the adults were handcuffed, then were told what was going on and were asked for permission to search the car,” Fania said. “They all granted permission, and once nothing was found in their cars, they were un-handcuffed.”
The search lasted between an hour and a half and two hours, and it wasn’t until the final car was searched that police apprehended the suspect.
“Once officers got to his car, they found evidence that he was who they were looking for,” Fania said. “When they searched the car, they found two loaded firearms.”
The actions of the police have been met with some criticism, but Fania said this was a unique situation that required an unusual response.
“It’s hard to say what normal is in a situation like this when you haven’t dealt with a situation like this,” Fania said. “The result of the whole ordeal is that it paid off. We have arrested and charged a suspect.”
The other people who had been held at the intersection were allowed to leave once the suspect was apprehended.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlin...lt-at-intersection-in-search-for-bank-robber/

 

[bolil]

Yet when a plumbers tools get ripped off, the cops are nowhere to be seen. Wait... could it... it must be... the cops are the elites private army and the banks their piggy....errrr... bank.

 

[osan]

I wonder what the cops would have done had all those people been armed and PISSED.

And so the death spiral of Liberty and sanity continues.

 

[Noble Savage]

If I remember right Aurora is like the ghetto of Denver suburbs...they wouldn't try that shit at the Highlands...

 

[QuickZ06]

One Man Robs Bank, Cops Cuff Everyone.

Aurora Police Chief said the officers were justified. Remember we are all the "bad guys." All they need is "virtual certainty." Check out both the videos in the two links I provided.

Police in Aurora, Colo., searching for suspected bank robbers stopped every car at an intersection, handcuffed all the adults and searched the cars, one of which they believed was carrying the suspect.

Police said they had received what they called a “reliable” tip that the culprit in an armed robbery at a Wells Fargo bank committed earlier was stopped at the red light.

“We didn’t have a description, didn’t know race or gender or anything, so a split-second decision was made to stop all the cars at that intersection, and search for the armed robber,” Aurora police Officer Frank Fania told ABC News.
Officers barricaded the area, halting 19 cars.

“Cops came in from every direction and just threw their car in front of my car,” Sonya Romero, one of the drivers who was handcuffed, told ABC News affiliate KMGH-TV in Denver.

From there, the police went from car to car, removing the passengers and handcuffing the adults.
“Most of the adults were handcuffed, then were told what was going on and were asked for permission to search the car,” Fania said. “They all granted permission, and once nothing was found in their cars, they were un-handcuffed.”

The search lasted between an hour and a half and two hours, and it wasn’t until the final car was searched that police apprehended the suspect.
“Once officers got to his car, they found evidence that he was who they were looking for,” Fania said. “When they searched the car, they found two loaded firearms.”

The actions of the police have been met with some criticism, but Fania said this was a unique situation that required an unusual response.
“It’s hard to say what normal is in a situation like this when you haven’t dealt with a situation like this,” Fania said. “The result of the whole ordeal is that it paid off. We have arrested and charged a suspect.”

The other people who had been held at the intersection were allowed to leave once the suspect was apprehended.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlin...lt-at-intersection-in-search-for-bank-robber/

Video inside link.
http://news.yahoo.com/video/denverc...t-after-iranian-student-s-death-29568102.html

 

[heavenlyboy34]

pagining AF, come to the police state insanity thread, aisle 9 please.

 

[ZENemy]

Comments make me barf