Pepper Spray would have helped him i would think. Ive never been sprayed with the stuff so i dont know if adrenaline helps ease the pain but i doubt that Vet could have shot as well as he did.
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Pepper Spray would have helped him i would think. Ive never been sprayed with the stuff so i dont know if adrenaline helps ease the pain but i doubt that Vet could have shot as well as he did.
Yeah sorry bout that i didnt mean you specifically. I posted that in conjunction with another post on the 1st page that said the officer is responsible for his own death and the vet should be set free. That kind of pissed me off a bit.
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Unlike RP supporters, cops are a collective by their nature. They have varying degrees of integrity and brutality and so on, but they are all part of a large tyrannical organization (gang) called "police".
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You can still shoot after being pepper sprayed. "Don't be beetch!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8IGDIujijQ
(Or maybe not...)
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You can still shoot after being pepper sprayed. "Don't be beetch!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8IGDIujijQ
(Or maybe not...)
LOL!!! That's a classic episode ^^
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the other side of the coin. i am sorry for this man and his family. I wish that his job did not involve bothering people who aren't bothering anyone else. Maybe he gave his life so that someone else could live.
I have to think that many cops have seen this video and many of them probably feel like everyone they pull over is a PTSD vietnam vet with a gun in their car. Sad Sad Sad.
I have to think that many cops have seen this video and many of them probably feel like everyone they pull over is a PTSD vietnam vet with a gun in their car. Sad Sad Sad.
You can still shoot after being pepper sprayed. "Don't be beetch!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8IGDIujijQ
(Or maybe not...)
Great video! i have a buddy a work that is from Russia and i shot him this video a while ago. I completely forgot about it though.
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Seen this video before, and it only highlights the discrepancy between cops and the people they harass. The vet was sentenced to death after a speedy trial for shooting a policeman on video. Mehserle shoots Oscar Grant on video and is released from prison after 1 year. It's not saying that the vet should have had a 1 year sentence, but rather that Mehserle obviously was tried as a police officer and received a more favorable outcome for it. That's not justice.
It also strikes me that this video, filmed in 1998, continues to be shown in police training across the country. It seems that trainees are taught well enough early on that the "mundanes" are their enemies, which explains the itchy trigger finger we so commonly read about here.
I'm not supportive of what the vet did, but I'm also not going to suddenly be sympathetic for cops who abuse individuals on a daily basis simply because an officer was filmed being shot over a decade ago.
It also strikes me that this video, filmed in 1998, continues to be shown in police training across the country. It seems that trainees are taught well enough early on that the "mundanes" are their enemies, which explains the itchy trigger finger we so commonly read about here.
I'm not supportive of what the vet did, but I'm also not going to suddenly be sympathetic for cops who abuse individuals on a daily basis simply because an officer was filmed being shot over a decade ago.
You're right... this was the first video they showed us in civilian police training. Conversely, we received better training in the Air Force police academy lol. We were one of the first to use the FATS simulators... great training tool!
It's also true that there is a "us versus them" mentality. Couple the distrust of "civilians" (even though police are civilians too... unless we are talking military police) with the roids that a lot of these guys are on and you get a dangerous mix.
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Completely different situations. Mehserle was tried for having an "accident" (using real gun instead of stun gun). You may not believe that it was an accident, but only a mind-reader would know for absolute certainty. Can anyone prove that it was not accident? What do you get charged for if you hit a pedestrian with your car? Did you do it on purpose? Can anyone prove that you did it on purpose? Is there a motive or any proof that you did it on purpose?
The case in this thread was not an accident. The penalty should be the same if this crazy guy had killed a mundane, your mother or a cop.
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I don't understand how anyone could actually believe the harebrained excuse that he was "going for his taser". The suggestion is blown away by the simple question of why Mehserle even felt going for a taser was necessary for a man who was handcuffed and faced down. So if he didn't murder Oscar, did he simply intend to torture him?
I agree with you that the penalty should be the same if a crazy guy kills a mundane, your mother, or a cop. I'm suggesting, however, that it should also be the same even if the crazy guy happens to be a cop. Unfortunately, that's simply not what we see in this country. Mehserle received more punishment than we often see for officers who murder civilians. It's a sad situation, and this video doesn't do much to take away from that reality.
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Agreed. And in addition I feel that the "us versus them" mentality leads to an imbalance as (it seems) that the majority of people feel a trusting relationship with the police. That's why you see some of the more pitiable outcomes in some of Anti Federalist's threads, like the individual who cries out "Why are you shooting me?" as his home is raided.
It's not anything I have against cops collectively, but rather the several who use their position to act aggressively against people on their own, the several who act aggressively against people with the passive reasoning of "I'm just doing my job", and the several who defend the aggression. Between those, there are too few exceptional police that I personally feel that I could trust. And that's unfortunate given the noble role the public idealizes officers to play.
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Do not get bothered by what he said, he's very clearly insane and has a lot of unjustified hate for multiple groups of people, and even wants to kill 1-2 billion people.
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