Police Shooting - Graphic

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I have to say, I'm usually on the other side saying that the cops used way too much force, this time I have to say, that cop should have laid that dude out, he was crazy, that cop gave him way too many chances.

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January 12, 1998
[video]http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=969_1263249923[/video]

Deputy Kyle Dinkheller, Laurens County, GA, was minutes from being off duty when he encountered a speeding pickup truck going 98 mph. The deputy was an ICE (Interstate Criminal Enforcement) officer that dealt with traffic infractions, speeding and the occasional drug bust. This was a low risk or unknown risk stop for speeding. He radioed in the speeding infraction, made a U-turn in the median and pursued the vehicle. The driver, Andrew Brannan, stopped his vehicle, exited and started a crazy, dancing jig in the middle of the road while swearing at the officer and shouting ‘I’m a god-damned Vietnam vet.” At first, he ignored Dinkheller’s commands to step towards the deputy, which always began with `Sir’. When he finally complied, he attacked the deputy and a scuffle ensued. The deputy implemented the use of his asp and ordered Brannan to `get back’. This procedure was repeated, but after what appeared to be a second scuffle, the suspect returned to his vehicle and retrieved a M-I Carbine from under the seat. The first shots were fired nearly 50 seconds after Brannan returned to his vehicle despite the deputy’s commands. Brannan ignored the repeated commands to put the gun down and Deputy Dinkheller apparently fired the first shot. Brannan, a Vietnam veteran, advanced firing on the deputy. Dinkheller returned fire, but succeeded only in breaking a window in the driver’s side of the pickup and wounding Brannan in the stomach. Using `suppressive fire’, Brannan systematically, methodically shot Dinkheller in the arms, legs, exposed areas that would not be covered had Dinkheller been wearing a bulletproof vest, slowly executing him. Reloading his weapon Brannan continued firing with the final death shot to Dinkheller’s right eye. "The entire incident was videotaped by a camera in Deputy Dinkheller's patrol car. On January 28, 2000, the suspect was found guilty of murder and was sentenced to death two days later."
 
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That guy knew how to approach that vehicle and fuck shit up. Ex military, many cops themselves are as well however SO those crazies ARE on both sides of those fire fights.

I don't like hearing those "death screams" which only happen when you are well shit, thinking you are going to die. What a scary situation to say the least but yes he gave him WAYYYYY to much leash. If anything, when the guy went to his car and seemed to fiddle with shit FOREVER, move your vehicle back to a defensive position UNTIL backup arrives. He seemed combative from the get go SO I think the cop should have taking more defensive measures.

I feel bad for his fam, this is an old story BUT a great video. Not saying that a video showing or allowing you to listen to a man die is a good thing BUT it makes you realize what humans are capable of.
 
The policeman was too nice.As soon as he picked up a gun,especially after acting like that,I'd have shot him.He was a brave and humane man and unfortunately in this case,that didn't pay.
 
When did the federal political subdivision get police powers?

ICE (Interstate Criminal Enforcement) officer that dealt with traffic infractions, speeding and the occasional drug bust

I am not going to feel empathetic to a government using force or coercion it should not be using.
 
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The Army officer had warned the police officer by charging at him and saying he is "Vietnam veteran". So police should have backed off.

Usually police officers have a bad habit of pointing Guns at strangers. Some people get angry with this.

I think the army officer must have said "you have a gun. I have a better gun with me". He got angry and the Gun fight started resulting in the death of police officer. Army people are aggressive because they trained to fight and they have seen death in war zones.

Look at the way the army officer charges at the police during the gun fight. This how army kills its enemy in wars.

I would say the police officer is responsible for his own death. So the army officer should be released from the prison.
 
This is an old story.

From what I remember, the officer got in trouble for being too offensive and thus he was so apprehensive in this case. This is what you get when cops assume the role of tyrants and not what they were sworn to be: Protectors of liberty.
 
On January 28, 2000, the suspect was found guilty of murder and was sentenced to death two days later."

i get it. police officer murders unarmed mundane and gets the minimum 2 year sentence. (possibly mentally incapacitated) armed mundane shoots armed police officer and gets the death penalty.

i love the US of A.
 
i get it. police officer murders unarmed mundane and gets the minimum 2 year sentence. (possibly mentally incapacitated) armed mundane shoots armed police officer and gets the death penalty.

i love the US of A.

A fallacious argument, if you're trying to say the murderer in this video should have gotten a lesser sentence.

However, if you're implying the COP that committed murder and got two years (and only served 11 months, remember) deserved a GREAT deal more, than we agree. Death penalty? I wouldn't say so, but certainly a decade or two.
 
Really horrible video, cops are human beings they have families that depend on him. Definitely he should have been more aggressive and not let the suspect to get back in the car.
 
This is a terrible story, and I truly feel for the loved ones and family of this officer... but it doesn't reflect the most common reality.

The fact is that Police misconduct results in over 3 times more deaths of innocent people than police.

US Department of Justice statistics reported an average of 667 people were killed per year in arrest related incidents from 2003-2005. 365 of them per year were ruled homicides. That's one person murdered a day by police.

In contrast, 69 officers died last year from firearm related incidents or assaults. More officers were killed in non-assault traffic accidents, by heart attacks or other random accidents. The number of officers total that died in the line of duty, or from injuries sustained in the line of duty, is 160, and that number includes officers who were injured almost 2 decades earlier.

Videos of the extremely rare incidents like this are shown to police in their training. It's given as an example of what will happen if you're not always thinking of the average person as a criminal. It makes people who might be good officers want to quit, and makes the ones who would be bad officers want to kill.

I come from a police family. 3 family members were on our local police department. I have heard them complain about fellow officers who go too far. I'm not anti-police, I just think there needs to be something done to police the police.

*Police fatality statistics from National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund
**Police misconduct statistics from the National Police Misconduct Statistics Reporting Project
 
I come from a police family. 3 family members were on our local police department. I have heard them complain about fellow officers who go too far. I'm not anti-police, I just think there needs to be something done to police the police.

Tonewah, thanks for that post. I feel the same way, but I hope policing the police doesn't mean we need to waste more tax dollars on the police state. What I would like to see is something like a mandatory double-the-max-sentence for cops who are convicted of crimes. I would also like to see a reduced number of cops. They seem to travel in packs of 5 or 6 these days. That puts a lot of pressure on an individual cop not to snitch on his buddies.
 
Jesus Christ...

"Police Shooting - Graphic" should be replaced with "Police Shooting - Could Leave You Mentally Disturbed"
 
I agree with the stiffer punishments for sure. Another thing is they should HAVE TO go into general population as should ANY inmate. If their Karma is so bad that if they set foot in gen pop they will die then THEIR KARMA is coming back hard for everything they did in their life now isn't it.

If a cop kills, he should be held to a higher standard for sure just like military as well as anyone "trained" or needing to "register their hands". Who knows though that "public servant" thing really does it for many people as though they shouldn't be punished as bad because hell they were servants for us after all.

I don't like cops, never have and if someone breaks in my house I WILL DEAL WITH IT. Cops should be there for elderly and lost kids and should WALK THE BEAT and be a friend to the people and not "patroling" in swat gear and assault rifles.
 
A fallacious argument, if you're trying to say the murderer in this video should have gotten a lesser sentence.

However, if you're implying the COP that committed murder and got two years (and only served 11 months, remember) deserved a GREAT deal more, than we agree. Death penalty? I wouldn't say so, but certainly a decade or two.


They should get the same sentence, regardless of what it is.
 
A fallacious argument, if you're trying to say the murderer in this video should have gotten a lesser sentence.

However, if you're implying the COP that committed murder and got two years (and only served 11 months, remember) deserved a GREAT deal more, than we agree. Death penalty? I wouldn't say so, but certainly a decade or two.

i was implying that the judicial system is skewed to favor law enforcement. the citizen who murdered the cop is no less innocent than the cop who murdered the unarmed citizen, but the judicial system would have one believe otherwise.
 
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This was showed to my department training class and may be one of the reasons for this new 'circular force' continuum which they have today.
 
This was showed to my department training class and may be one of the reasons for this new 'circular force' continuum which they have today.

It's a shame that one crazy guy sets the standard for how all civilians are treated. Collectivism at it's worse.

Police abuse in no way offsets the actions of this murderer. Death penalty or life in prison with no parole, whichever is cheaper.
 
It's a shame that one crazy guy sets the standard for how all civilians are treated. Collectivism at it's worse.

Police abuse in no way offsets the actions of this murderer. Death penalty or life in prison with no parole, whichever is cheaper.

It is all about learning the right lesson from an incident. The lesson here should have been - at what point did the situation escalate to the use of deadly force, rather than all "civilians" are deadly threats. At Verdun, the French learned the lesson of how a strong fort can hold out against attacks, while the Germans learned the lesson of the cost of getting trapped into positional warfare, and developed the armored division.
 
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