Please stop Yelling/Cussing at Official Campaign Staff

stop posting false reports, if HQ is having problems, they'll issue statements or send emails.

who exactly do you think they're going to send an e-mail to? all 100,000 of the e-mail list subscribers? oh right, that's a good idea, post on the website for the world to see that their own supporters are calling them names!? give me a break.
 
George, HQ has had a bunker mentality since the spring if not earlier.

Whispering sweet nothings in their ear, offering to help, constructive criticisms and flooding them with donations didn't get them to listen, what do you expect?
 
These are the reports I'm getting... HQ is now entering a bunker type mentality that is going to be hard to push through...

Please get the word out and have everyone channel their energies into something more positive..... :(

So let me get this right....

You and DJ make multiple posts about how the campaign is incompetent and not doing it's job. Stirring up shit and getting people angry at the campaign, and now your upset that people are calling HQ and bitching about the exact same things you complained to all of us about?

Sounds like cause and effect George.
 
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Then take care of it yourself! Go hit up a kinkos! Try some good old spray paint and paper! Yelling and cussing them out might be the most useless thing anyone could do.

PS And I know the state of things in Michigan, instead of getting my underwear all bunched up and throwing a hissy fit I just decided to take care of it myself.

you can't control resources and big ad buys, etc. I salute your efforts, but they will be in vain without HQ staff change.
 
Yet another rumor started by ghemminger.

Atleast it isn't as bad as the whole "The HQ has a secret plan for after Dec. 16th and while I can't tell you what it is, it's going to be big!" he started.

Kind of tired of people claiming that they talked to the campaign HQ and claiming they said something with no evidence to back it up. The HQ is horrible at giving us information, but I doubt they'd give it to a member of the forums to pass on, especially one who has been so instrumental in bashing the campaign and starting rumors in the past (as mentioned above).
 
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It seems to me that we are losing the plot a bit online at the moment. I guess it is all the excitement now that it is getting serious.

Unfortunately I think it is working against us. We should all be focusing on what we do best and get on with it. There are so many things we can do and we have so many individual skills. If we work independently and we all concentrate on how we can help get 1-5-10 new Ron Paul votes then we will succeed. Unfortunately all the talk about what others should be doing doesn't get us any new votes.
 
It seems to me that we are losing the plot a bit online at the moment. I guess it is all the excitement now that it is getting serious.

Unfortunately I think it is working against us. We should all be focusing on what we do best and get on with it. There are so many things we can do and we have so many individual skills. If we work independently and we all concentrate on how we can help get 1-5-10 new Ron Paul votes then we will succeed. Unfortunately all the talk about what others should be doing doesn't get us any new votes.


The quote was to me....."George please call anytime 24/7 - we appreciate your professional additude...quite frankly most of my calls from supporters are yelling and cussing....." end quote
 
Yelling and cussing at the official campaign is uncalled for.

I have no problem with people giving constructive criticism to the campaign. They are NOT perfect and HAVE made mistakes. What I'm sick and tired of is the HOSTILITY I've been seeing in the past few days. It's almost Super Tuesday and we do NOT have time to be attacking each other. We need to PULL TOGETHER!

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George, HQ has had a bunker mentality since the spring if not earlier.

Whispering sweet nothings in their ear, offering to help, constructive criticisms and flooding them with donations didn't get them to listen, what do you expect?

Freaking me out Bradley.
 
I think that fact that supporters are calling yelling and cussing, which I don't condone or support this, should be a wake up call. We've called and suggested ideas, offered constructive criticism, etc.. and nothing has happened.

The HQ needs to get off their butts and start being more aggressive and start getting more involved. We sent Ron Paul $30 million dollars for a reason.
 
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America is no longer a Democracy/Republic, it's a travesty!

I'm not watching an election, I'm watching a choreographed symphony of steaming shit.
 
George,

Most of the volunteers in DC refer to the HQ staff as "arrogant little snots" for a reason. Of course, they probably didn't notice or don't care about all of the dedicated Ron Paul supporters in the DC area that won't go volunteer there anymore.

They fire or won't hire the competent people who point out the inadequacies of the staff.

Do me a favor and survey how many of them have repeated the lie they made up that I got fired from the Congressional office. What they don't get yet is that the greater Ron Paul political family knows the story about me and about them. We're disgusted when we're not laughing at them. They have no future in our movement--and who else is going to hire them? Of course they're upset and desperate and have a bunker mentality.
 
For those of you who believe the campaign hasn't been as effective; and result to yelling / cursing; I have one thing to say to you:

Two Wrongs Don't make a Right. So stop hassling the campaign and get out and canvass houses.
 
George,

Most of the volunteers in DC refer to the HQ staff as "arrogant little snots" for a reason. Of course, they probably didn't notice or don't care about all of the dedicated Ron Paul supporters in the DC area that won't go volunteer there anymore.

They fire or won't hire the competent people who point out the inadequacies of the staff.

Do me a favor and survey how many of them have repeated the lie they made up that I got fired from the Congressional office. What they don't get yet is that the greater Ron Paul political family knows the story about me and about them. We're disgusted when we're not laughing at them. They have no future in our movement--and who else is going to hire them? Of course they're upset and desperate and have a bunker mentality.

You shouldn't have to put up with that shit.
 
In Oz-Land, once the election is declared, 6 weeks of electionering is afforded.
 
The problem with HQ is they keep screwing up. Everything that works about Paul's campaign has been largely done by the grassroots.

Sorry...but after Iowa this became apparent to me.
 
It seems to me that we are losing the plot a bit online at the moment. I guess it is all the excitement now that it is getting serious.

Unfortunately I think it is working against us. We should all be focusing on what we do best and get on with it. There are so many things we can do and we have so many individual skills. If we work independently and we all concentrate on how we can help get 1-5-10 new Ron Paul votes then we will succeed. Unfortunately all the talk about what others should be doing doesn't get us any new votes.

I agree with you Lars. But, of course, no one is listening. They like wasting their time with internal squabbling. The Hannity and Clinton stuff is all about Ron Paul supporter poseurs and I'll be it could be the same case with the calls to staff at HQ.

Wake up guys! RP supporters didn't just become a bunch of idiotic a-holes overnight. These are NOT RP supporters doing this. And those of you who don't read this and don't let this in, who continue with this time-wasting bickering, are hurting the campaign.
 
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