Planned Parenthood Breaks Silence on Abortion Monster

[PaulConventionWV]

No one questions my intentions except when I take a strong position on abortion. Since you can't refute my points, you just call me a troll.

Wake up, abortion will always be legal.

I question everything you say, because it's you who says it. That's how much of a troll you are.

 

[James Madison]

I'm just altogether unclear on why so few of us realize there isn't a single scrap of this worth saving.

I already realized this a while ago. Just hoping to press the 'Restart' button without being the one who gets reset.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

What could I possibly mention that has not already been mentioned thousands of times? Chile has twice as many abortions as Canada.

That's a classic response. You are good.

 

[Origanalist]

You must be trolling.

No, he's not.

 

[Sola_Fide]

I agree with the great women and men at Planned Parenthood. Gosnell's case is the best argument for legal late abortions there is.

Did you mean to say that Gosnell should undergo a late abortion? In that case, I agree with you. He should be burned alive with chemicals, his arms and legs chopped off, and then have his brains sucked out.

 

[Origanalist]

Did you mean to say that Gosnell should undergo a late abortion? In that case, I agree with you. He should be burned alive with chemicals, his arms and legs chopped off, and then have his brains sucked out.

Ala groundhog day.

 

[jmdrake]

No one questions my intentions except when I take a strong position on abortion. Since you can't refute my points, you just call me a troll.

Wake up, abortion will always be legal.

I've seen you called a troll for other reasons. Carry on.

 

[jmdrake]

If abortion providers in the state were less regulated, Gosnell wouldn't have been in business. An actual doctor would be the abortionist and wouldn't deliver a perfectly fine human only to kill it in its first hour.

The problem with your "logic" is that abortion providers in the state were already less regulated than doctors. The reason many doctors don't do abortions isn't because there's too much regulation. The reason many doctors do not do abortions is because...they don't want to do abortions, especially late term.

 

[otherone]

What could I possibly mention that has not already been mentioned thousands of times? Chile has twice as many abortions as Canada.

People seem to think that making something illegal, that people want, eliminates it. History has taught us that the consequences of creating a black market are usually tragic. And while it occasionally appears that an abortionist is motivated by murder, it more often seems that many pro-life advocates are motivated by revenge.

 

[Murray N Rothbard]

The problem with your "logic" is that abortion providers in the state were already less regulated than doctors. The reason many doctors don't do abortions isn't because there's too much regulation. The reason many doctors do not do abortions is because...they don't want to do abortions, especially late term.

Bullsh*t. Aside from the military and actual government itself, Physicians are members of the most heavily protected, government-enforced private monopoly in human history. There are by far more barriers to entry to the field than any other profession. THAT is what allows a monster like Gosnell to rise to power quickly. He does it not in spite of the regulations, but because of them. Bad people get weeded out in a free system, and empowered in an un-free one. People like this don't function completely normally in all aspects of life, meanwhile committing isolated atrocities on the side. Their criminal tendencies pervade almost every aspect of life. Creating a protected monopoly doesn't keep them out, it gives them a chance to be part of a special government sponsored racket where prices are inflated, choice and competition is restricted. The government does a terrible job regulating compared to the free market.

Abortion wouldn't just be safe and rare in a free system it might not exist at all. We have no idea what improvements some entrepreneur might have come up with. Maybe a process to safely extract a fetus from a woman and transfer it to a surrogate mother, who is willing to pay a price for it? Or even a machine to bring these fetuses to full term and then make them available for adoption. It's absolutely true that "life is precious," that's why it would be protected instead of thrown away in a free market.

 

[Tinnuhana]

Originally Posted by Smart3
I agree with the great women and men at Planned Parenthood. Gosnell's case is the best argument for legal late abortions there is.

Did you mean to say that Gosnell should undergo a late abortion? In that case, I agree with you. He should be burned alive with chemicals, his arms and legs chopped off, and then have his brains sucked out.

That was what I thought, too: That Gosnell should be the victim of a VERY late term abortion.

 

[jmdrake]

Bullsh*t. Aside from the military and actual government itself, Physicians are members of the most heavily protected, government-enforced private monopoly in human history.

You didn't actually read what I wrote did you? I said doctors are more regulated than abortion clinics. You "refute" me by saying...doctors are heavily regulated. You basically supported my point while thinking you were attacking it. What part of "the reason most doctors don't do abortions is because they don't' want to" do you not understand?

There are by far more barriers to entry to the field than any other profession. THAT is what allows a monster like Gosnell to rise to power quickly. He does it not in spite of the regulations, but because of them. Bad people get weeded out in a free system, and empowered in an un-free one. People like this don't function completely normally in all aspects of life, meanwhile committing isolated atrocities on the side. Their criminal tendencies pervade almost every aspect of life. Creating a protected monopoly doesn't keep them out, it gives them a chance to be part of a special government sponsored racket where prices are inflated, choice and competition is restricted. The government does a terrible job regulating compared to the free market.

Ummm....you didn't really say anything, but okay. Again, members of this "protected monopoly" are still free to do abortions if they choose. And in a totally free market someone would still be doing late term abortions.

Abortion wouldn't just be safe and rare in a free system it might not exist at all. We have no idea what improvements some entrepreneur might have come up with. Maybe a process to safely extract a fetus from a woman and transfer it to a surrogate mother, who is willing to pay a price for it? Or even a machine to bring these fetuses to full term and then make them available for adoption. It's absolutely true that "life is precious," that's why it would be protected instead of thrown away in a free market.

That's opinion parading as fact. I love the free market as much as anyone. But anytime you make a prediction, as opposed to a report, that's opinion. You're free to have it of course.

 

[itshappening]

Drake, we've been posting about this monster for weeks.

Are you surprised its only now getting attention? This week?

Even from the "conservative" media who excoriate the networks for not covering it... they only started paying attention this week.

 

[jmdrake]

Drake, we've been posting about this monster for weeks.

Are you surprised its only now getting attention? This week?

Even from the "conservative" media who excoriate the networks for not covering it... they only started paying attention this week.

I quit paying attention to the MSM a while back so no I'm not surprised. I bet the MSM didn't cover the positive reactions Rand got from Howard students interviewed by ReasonTV either. (See: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?411163-ReasonTV-Reactions-to-Rand-at-Howard) I bet there's little coverage of Rand's talk at the HBCU in Louisville KY considering how well it went.

As for the conservative media? Well all I can say is we should call the story in.

 

[Origanalist]

People seem to think that making something illegal, that people want, eliminates it. History has taught us that the consequences of creating a black market are usually tragic. And while it occasionally appears that an abortionist is motivated by murder, it more often seems that many pro-life advocates are motivated by revenge.

Well ya, we want revenge on that baby by making it live.

 

[angelatc]

If abortion providers in the state were less regulated, Gosnell wouldn't have been in business. An actual doctor would be the abortionist and wouldn't deliver a perfectly fine human only to kill it in its first hour.

Except for the fact that abortion clinics are regulated, and Gosnell as an actual doctor, your position makes prefect sense. Well, except the part about late term abortions being being ok, and not murder.

The real, hardcore truth exposed here is that women who get abortions are mentally ill.

 

[angelatc]

People seem to think that making something illegal, that people want, eliminates it. History has taught us that the consequences of creating a black market are usually tragic. And while it occasionally appears that an abortionist is motivated by murder, it more often seems that many pro-life advocates are motivated by revenge.

That's partially true. I think that the social thinking has to proceed the legislation.

Think drunk driving. THose of us 50 and over remember when, if they caught you, the cops would just follow you home to make sure you made it ok. Now the under 30 crowd will shriek about how their friend/family member was killed by a drunk driver, and that it's an unforgiveable transgression even when no harm has actually been done to another person.

Child labor laws also come to mind. The government didn't start getting involved until most families were already able to exist without sending their kids into the labor force. Now, the thought of a 12 year old riding his bike through a neighborhood delivering papers on a rainy is abhorrent to most people. That's what Mexicans are for.

The laws started changing when public opinion started changing, not before.

And that's why the left wing is so adamant about shutting down pro-life speech. Resorting to "everybody else does it!" and "it's always been that way," is a pretty weak stance, but really - that's all they have.

 

[angelatc]

What could I possibly mention that has not already been mentioned thousands of times? Chile has twice as many abortions as Canada.

What's the source of that statistic? All I can find is that there are no abortion numbers from Chile, because abortion is illegal.

 

[Origanalist]

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[IBleedNavyAndOrange]

"Pro-choice" HAHAHA!