GunnyFreedom
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The store owner basically laid down and died. Gunny's right, he let the Redcoat bully him.
Where was the counter argument about violence in Britain?
Where was the counter argument about nobody is going to shoot up the pizza store if there are other gun owners/carriers in the store?
Where was the counter argument about deaths in bathtubs, should be ban bathtubs too?
Ehh, I don't mean they guy needs to be some kind of debate genius with perfect recall, I meant the specific act of letting Piers frame the debate every time. He ended up getting hit with a ton of "have you stopped beating your wife yet?" type questions. I don't care how good you are, if you let someone do that to you you're going to have a bad time.
One of the ways that the right fails against the left is that the Right generally sucks at re-framing the debate, and the left are usually masters at it. We are even worse in the liberty movement because we by and large don't even recognize debate-framing and go with whatever they toss in our laps.
PM - "Don't you feel worried with all those gun-owners in your store"
LM - (look of surprise) "What? worried?! We've had armed people in this store for 5 years without a single incident. The store two blocks down doesn't, and they've been robbed 3 times in the same five years. If anybody is worried, it should be those guys!"
No extra genius required, just don't let the bastard frame the debate and you'll be OK.