Percent Debate Time By Candidate

It seems to me that those numbers are vastly less unfair than the previous debate. While Perry got a lot more time, he also was fielded a torrent of jabs from competing candidates which he deserved additional time to respond to. I'm very happy with the numbers!

Right but at the same time when Santurom took jabs at Ron Paul he either didn't step up and respond and or Blitzer didn't give him a chance like he did when Perry and Romney were attacked. RP really needs to take off the gloves in these debates.
 
I heard Blitzer interviewed on the Neal Boortz show morning of the 12th. He mentioned every single candidate of the eight by name with the exception or Ron Paul. Not once but on two occasions during the short interview. It was almost like he had been told by his handlers that if he mentioned RP's name he would be fired or if he just wouldn't mention his name he would go away. Blitzer even admitted to Boortz that it was his natural tendency to give more time to those who were leaders.

I guess that means leaders as in whomever the media decides is the leader regardless of how the poor ignorant people might vote in poles or with their meager contributions.
 
Right but at the same time when Santurom took jabs at Ron Paul he either didn't step up and respond and or Blitzer didn't give him a chance like he did when Perry and Romney were attacked. RP really needs to take off the gloves in these debates.

Also Wolfe even asked Perry to chime in on what he thought about other candidates rebuttals. One time sticks out with me, I think it was BAchman calling out Romney and after Romney responded, Wolfe asked Perry what his opinion was?
 
I heard Blitzer interviewed on the Neal Boortz show morning of the 12th. He mentioned every single candidate of the eight by name with the exception or Ron Paul. Not once but on two occasions during the short interview. It was almost like he had been told by his handlers that if he mentioned RP's name he would be fired or if he just wouldn't mention his name he would go away. Blitzer even admitted to Boortz that it was his natural tendency to give more time to those who were leaders.

I guess that means leaders as in whomever the media decides is the leader regardless of how the poor ignorant people might vote in poles or with their meager contributions.

Maybe Wolfe just doesn't know how to count correctly..."1, 2, 4, 5, 6, etc."
 
I think the biggest problem, and the reason Perry got so much extra time is because a HUGE majority of the questions where asked in this form - "Do you agree with Perry's position?" At that point, Perry had the right to have a rebuttal after so many questions. This is not a Rick Perry debate, its a republican presidential debate. If there was ever proof that there is clear media bias, and media anointing of favored candidates, it is here.


Someone needs to put an end to the corrupt media stranglehold on truth.


Spot on. I noticed that, too. Nearly every question had his name in it. LOL
 
Can someone put together a very simple mix video, showing Wolf's very adamant pledge to give people equal time, along with some a little scoreboard that shows how much candidates actually talked? I remember Wolf promising to give equal time, and I would really like a little video to spread around the Internet in an effort for future debates to have a timer up on the TV, along with a score to show how many times each candidate has spoken. Perhaps we can use these numbers as fuel for the blackout money bomb, by putting a link to the pledge site at the end?

Again, I do think the Daily Paul numbers might be more reliable than my own :-)
 
The polls run similarly to the time the candidates were given. The time given likely has to do with who the parties want elected, and I really question the polls. Before Rick Perry announced his candidacy, the news kept saying Romney was at the popular choice. But Tea Party leaders kept saying no, they considered Romney too much like Obama. I think it is more propaganda than fact to discourage us from voting for the best man thinking that he is so low in the polls that he hasn't a chance.

See Article below from Glen Beck Interview:
"Texas Governor Rick Perry has made quite a stir since entering the 2012 race last month, and though his poll numbers are fairing quite well, the GOP establishment has spoken, and Mitt Romney is their man.

“Rick Perry may be surging in the polls of Republican primary voters, but his party insiders aren’t convinced he’ll be the best general election candidate. More than two thirds of Republican insiders say Mitt Romney has a better chance than Perry of defeating President Obama,” Glenn reported on radio this morning.

Its all well and good that the party leaders have their pick, but should we really be listening to them?

Seeing as this is the same establishment that has lended its support to the like of Bob Dole and John McCain, probably not.

PAT: So, same party insiders, I’m guessing, they always know what they’re talking about. So

GLENN: Well, they — one thing they failed to recognize is Americans don’t buy into their bull crap anymore.

PAT: I think they do fail to recognize that. I think they really do. I think they believe that they’re just as relevant.

The bigger question at hand is why the GOP would be so quick to support a Romney, over say Perry, Bachmann, or other Tea Party favorites?"

Read more at Glen Beck.com
 
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I did the same thing

I'm a DPer, but I registered just so I could let y'all see some more stats that I took during the CNN and also the MSNBC debate as well. Have a ball:

CNN Debate:
http://www.dawnoftheweak.com/2011/09/cnn-teaparty-debate-9122011-statistics.html

Talking Time (mm:ss):
Perry 13:54
Romney 10:56
Ron Paul 07:34
Bachmann 08:35
Newt 07:32
Cain 05:42
Santorum 07:06
Huntsman 07:50
Total 1:09:09


MSNBC Debate:
http://www.dawnoftheweak.com/2011/09/msnbcpolitico-9-7-2011-debate.html

Total Time Spent Talking (minutes):
Perry 14:59
Mitt 11:57
Paul 09:19
Bachmann 09:05
Newt 06:53
Herman 05:41
Santorum 06:11
Huntsman 08:52

There's more stats on the blog if you're interested. Cheers!
RP2012
 
I actually forwarded these times to Cain and Gingrich :-)

I pointed out that I would like all candidates to have equal time, and that I felt it was unfair that I was unable to hear more from them. I suggested that it might be advisable for all candidates to have a time slice allocated to them, and once it's used up it's gone... I wrote this as a concerned citizen, without mentioning my own political leanings.

For the next debates, I think we should do this again if it is reasonably quick to get these numbers... how did you do it? I just used a stopwatch which isn't the best way per se ;-)
 
Nice, I sent them to Cain as well. Yep, used my iPhone to time it and kept it to only when they started talking and when they finished. Tracked it on a spreadsheet. I have a DVR of course when I think I need to pause or rewind, always helps. But overall, I don't think it's an exact science, a second here or there won't hurt anything unless it's used to intentionally undercut someone, which isn't our way of doing things of course. Equality baby, that's where it's at.
 
I wrote a python script to help me keep up with the rapid changes in the debate. Perhaps for this next one we should post the times we get here, and we'll figure out any large discrepancies we get.

If anyone wants the Python script, let me know.
 
Started teaching myself Pyton a couple months ago, haven't quite gotten the hang just yet as I had to stop to learn After Effects for a contract project. So much learning, so little time.

I'll post an update here and we can compare notes after the next debate.
 
For latest Fox Google Debate:

If one looks at the polls as an indication as to how much debate allotment should be doled out to whom, then Fox has failed. Perry, Romney, Ron Paul, Bachmann are the order of the candidates in the polls, yet Ron Paul was only above Gary Johnson in his talking opportunities with only 6 total turns talking. Without the 3 blanket questions this left Paul with only 3 questions directed specifically to him, whereas Santorum, Huntsman, Bachmann, Gingrich and Cain were given more opportunities. It should then come as no surprise that Johnson and Paul came in as the longest to wait between turns talking. Johnson waited an average of 14:05, and Paul waited an average of 9:31.


Total Talk (mm:ss)
Romney 12:09
Perry 11:10
Huntsman 07:41
Santorum 07:06
Cain 06:23
Bachmann 06:13
Gingrich 05:44
Ron Paul 04:33
Johnson 04:10
Total 1:05:09

% of Total Talk Time
Romney 18.65%
Perry 17.14%
Huntsman 11.79%
Santorum 10.90%
Cain 9.80%
Bachmann 9.54%
Gingrich 8.80%
Ron Paul 6.98%
Johnson 6.40%

Turns Talking
Romney 15
Perry 13
Santorum 9
Huntsman 9
Bachmann 8
Gingrich 7
Cain 7
Ron Paul 6
Johnson 5

Sad, isn't it?

More stats and commentary available:
http://www.dawnoftheweak.com/2011/09/fox-news-google-debate-9222011.html
 
For latest Fox Google Debate:

If one looks at the polls as an indication as to how much debate allotment should be doled out to whom, then Fox has failed. Perry, Romney, Ron Paul, Bachmann are the order of the candidates in the polls, yet Ron Paul was only above Gary Johnson in his talking opportunities with only 6 total turns talking. Without the 3 blanket questions this left Paul with only 3 questions directed specifically to him, whereas Santorum, Huntsman, Bachmann, Gingrich and Cain were given more opportunities. It should then come as no surprise that Johnson and Paul came in as the longest to wait between turns talking. Johnson waited an average of 14:05, and Paul waited an average of 9:31.


Total Talk (mm:ss)
Romney 12:09
Perry 11:10
Huntsman 07:41
Santorum 07:06
Cain 06:23
Bachmann 06:13
Gingrich 05:44
Ron Paul 04:33
Johnson 04:10
Total 1:05:09

% of Total Talk Time
Romney 18.65%
Perry 17.14%
Huntsman 11.79%
Santorum 10.90%
Cain 9.80%
Bachmann 9.54%
Gingrich 8.80%
Ron Paul 6.98%
Johnson 6.40%

Turns Talking
Romney 15
Perry 13
Santorum 9
Huntsman 9
Bachmann 8
Gingrich 7
Cain 7
Ron Paul 6
Johnson 5

Sad, isn't it?

More stats and commentary available:
http://www.dawnoftheweak.com/2011/09/fox-news-google-debate-9222011.html
Some of this is due to the format. When Perry attacks Romney, Romney gets an additional 30 seconds speaking time. When Romney and Bachmann each attack Perry, Perry gets an additional minute of speaking time. Add up all these additionals rebuttals after personal attacks, and the numbers are bound to favor the challenged frontrunners disproportionately. No one is attacking Ron Paul because no one could pull any votes away from Ron Paul; it would be a fruitless effort. That's less an indication of media bias than it is of good politics on the part of the GOP field.

I'd be more interested to see how many direct questions each candidate received from the moderators not including rebuttal remarks from other candidate's attacks.
 
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We simply need candidates to drop. Santorum, Cain, Huntsman, they need to go. As soon as we get down to 5 or even 6 candidates, we can get some better talking time.
 
Some of this is due to the format. When Perry attacks Romney, Romney gets an additional 30 seconds speaking time. When Romney and Bachmann each attack Perry, Perry gets an additional minute of speaking time. Add up all these additionals rebuttals after personal attacks, and the numbers are bound to favor the challenged frontrunners disproportionately. No one is attacking Ron Paul because no one could pull any votes away from Ron Paul; it would be a fruitless effort. That's less an indication of media bias than it is of good politics on the part of the GOP field.

I'd be more interested to see how many direct questions each candidate received from the moderators not including rebuttal remarks from other candidate's attacks.

http://www.dawnoftheweak.com/2011/09/fox-news-google-debate-9222011.html

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[TR]
[TD="width: 59"][/TD]
[TD="width: 57"]Questions[/TD]
[TD="width: 59"]Responses[/TD]
[TD="width: 61"]Follow-ups[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Perry[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Romney[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Bachmann[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Gingrich[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Cain[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Santorum[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Ron Paul[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Huntsman[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Johnson[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Total[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]61[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]13[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]
5[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
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